I'd love to own a classic bagger/dresser. Late Pans are beautiful bikes. Would make a great garage companion for my 2008 FXDC.
This one has is interesting:
http://www.bikepoint.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=3012251&TabID=3424
Based on my knowledge of what should be there, can anyone confirm or add to these observations?
- Bags are incorrect - should be white lid and base, not two tone
- Rear lights are incorrect (looks like they are from a shovel/later FLH model? Could be a replacement rear fender from a later model?)
- Front fender trim (at rear) is missing (I suspect neither front or rear fenders are original)
- No bag rails, but they could have been optional
- Colour: not Hi-Fi red. Could be Holiday red. looks a little light but could be picture quality.
- Moirrors not correct? Stem looks a little short.
- No indicators? Original model came with them I beleive (fork mounted at front, bracket either side of tail light at rear)
Cheers
L
G'day guys, I've just joined the forum and this is my first post. I've checked my copy of The Legend Begins and it states that King of the Highway Group #F-5 included white fibreglass saddlebags but they could be substituted for black bags at no extra charge. Chrome saddlebag guard #90800-63A is listed as supplementary equipment.
Holiday Red with white tank panels was a standard colour for 1965 and Hi-Fi Red with white tank panels was an optional colour.
A chrome mirror is listed in Chrome Finish Group #F-1 but no part number is given. Chrome mirror #91873-47 is listed as supplementary equipment but I haven't found a reference regarding its stem length. However, the book's picture of a stock 1965 Panhead shows one mirror fitted and it has a long stem.
King of the Highway Group #F-5 included directional signals. And directional signal kit (partially attached) #68594-65 was available as supplementary equipment.
As stated above, the taillight on the bike for sale is 1955-1972 style but it appears that the lens may be 1969-1972 style. The later style lens sat proud of the door whereas the early style lens sat flush. I can't tell if the taillight body is aftermarket or not. Stamped in capital letters on the top of a genuine H-D body you may find the following: MADE IN USA. And also: GUIDE RH-55.
Judging by the saddlebag locks on the bike for sale, its bags are later than 1969. The oil tank is 1970 or later style because it has a side dipstick. That square type of tank was also used 1965-1969 but it didn't have a side dipstick for those early years.
The jiffy stand appears to have a spike on the end of it and although I'm not sure when that particular stand was first introduced I'm thinking 1970 because the tip that was available to fit over the end of the stand was #50052-70.
The circuit breaker/timer appears to have a clamp attached but a clamp wasn't introduced for Big Twins until the 1966 model so I don't think the circuit breaker/timer is a 1965 item. And there are several other things on the bike which are not authentic for 1965. Eric
So the verdict is, sweet looking ride, but not quite show perfect for the AMA purists.
I think the price is OK if registered in Australia. Anything like this at about $30k AUD would definitely be good buying.
I really appreciate the informed feedback. Cheers.
Yeah that bike is very nice but as stated not entirely "correct" if that's what floats your boat.
Correctness doesn't interest me as virtualy any part on that bike is now available through "V-Twin" manufacturing which is virtualy all Chinese made so you would need to be researched to be able to tell the difference and there is a big difference between a so-called "original" bike and one that has had a bunch of changes and I wouldn't want to pay premium bucks if it has a bunch of Chinese parts on it.
That bike was advertised on a US auction some time ago and can probably still be found on there so I don't know how long the present seller has owned it but he has been listing it on ebay for the last few months and I think he first listed it at well over 40k.
He has also had a few other very nice early bikes listed previously.
65 is a very collectable model although I don't really think that Aussies value the early Harleys as much as other countries so If you're considering re-sale I would be carefull.
If you have piles of cash though it would be a nice thing, I know that I'd like it!
Mark.
BLACKEY, that's a nice looking bike even as it stands. You mentioned that it's a before shot so I'm interested in what the plan was for the finished bike. Are you going to change the non-1951 parts back to 1951 parts or go for a different result? Looking forward to the photos. Eric
sweet as Blackey..... nice job and love the '46
