Hanni - I suppose you have evidence that bikies (it doesn't have a capital 'B') "run this state". If so, you'd better inform the police! If not, maybe you should think more carefully before making such foolish statements! And I assume that you've met ALL bikies, for you to able to pass judgement on them all. And exactly what purpose do YOU serve?

Posted by: Devil's Advocate of Adelaide 2:27pm today
Comment 30 of 30

Free Australia Party is long overdue.....glad to see someone taking up the fight to protect our liberties....you have my vote guys .

Posted by: Dave of Adelaide 2:15pm today
Comment 29 of 30

What a joke - being judged by association is totally ridiculous when there is no room for explanation!!! What about all the people who work in the security industry who "meet and greet" the people at the door of a nightclub and they are photographed with people of interest and then they are threatened by Liquor Licensing that will have their licence suspended and possibly ceased all because of a handshake??!! Apart from that brief "hello, how are you tonight" they are not to know what they do after they leave the club or what they ahve done previously prior to entering!!! I'm all for making our streets safer but to do it in such a Style that resembles a Nazi Regime is Ridiculous!!!!

Posted by: lee of adel of 1:58pm today
Comment 28 of 30

Time the judges passed sentences that suited the crime. So what if the prison is overcrowded. They did the crime, so suffer the time and conditions of prison. It's NOT a good damn holiday camp.

Posted by: Mike of 1:35pm today
Comment 27 of 30

As a bike rider not a bikie I feel this is not a far law. Next it will be Ford Divers and then Honda drivers(but who really care) This law is wrong, it can carry far past what they are trying to do. We are becoming the New QLD STATE. Where is JO and FLO

Posted by: john of Hahndorf 1:29pm today
Comment 26 of 30

Brenton of wellington. There is probably nothing wrong with current legislation except for the courts dont impose the penalties that they should. Suspended sentences for getting caught with loaded firearms, what a joke. Devil advocate, I bet mel gibsons conspiracy theory is your favourite movie. Get in touch with the real world.

Posted by: Andy Shaw of from the hill 1:08pm today
Comment 25 of 30

Piefloater (comment 5), that's the exact rubbish spouted by John Howard: the law abiding won't be affected, so you say. The bikies will still get guns. What's needed is better plice resourcing, and genuine penalties for MISUSE of guns.

Posted by: John of Oz 1:05pm today
Comment 24 of 30

Have you noticed Mr "Propoganda" new favorite word is "prevention". I have noticed it in a few of his promises. This Labor government has been in power for 6 and a half years now so i think prevention could be a tad late!

Posted by: jafa of Adelaide 1:03pm today
Comment 23 of 30

I'm ok with anything that makes life hard for Bikies. They run this state and I am sick of it. There are no 'good' ones and they certainly do not serve a purpose.

Posted by: Hanni of Adelaide 1:01pm today
Comment 22 of 30

ha ha ...no point making a fuss about laws that will not be enforced or cannot be enforced . the bikies still have their fortesses and will when rann is gone .the only trace of the rann ere ,apart from debt will be a city scarred with a useless tram and its tracks

Posted by: keith black of mawson lakes 12:55pm today
Comment 21 of 30

James Campbell, these new laws apply to any group of persons as determined by the Attorney-General. Bikies today, other groups (as the Attorney sees fit) tomorrow...

Posted by: Steve H of Modbury Heights 12:43pm today
Comment 20 of 30

its all good and well to have the toughest laws but without judges that are willing to start putting people away for decent amounts of time, what good are your super dooper laws Rannie????????? Fix the real problem!!!!!

Posted by: amanda of adelaide 12:42pm today
Comment 19 of 30

Yeah, let's get rid of all these "human rights"! Who needs them? Burma doesn't, China doesn't, and we want to be like them, right?

Posted by: Devil's Advocate of Adelaide 12:39pm today
Comment 18 of 30

It's all very well to enact new laws, but who is going to enforce them? We do not have enough police to enforce the laws currently in place!

Posted by: Colin of The South 12:32pm today
Comment 17 of 30

First bikies - then who's next? Jews? Gays? Liberal voters?

Posted by: Devil's Advocate of Adelaide 12:24pm today
Comment 16 of 30

nice way to get the ant like masses of the world to think your doing the right thing Mr Rann. Havent heard of many Bikie shootings in the last five years, but still you waste tax payers time and money by creating laws that no one will enforce just so you can 'look' to be caring about the people of your state and keep your term. Why not just ban all guns, no matter who you are, or what jacket or what friends you decide to keep. But hey, we all know what makes the headlines, anything to create fear into the majority, thats why this paper prints them, thats why the goverment ALWAYS do this, really they should thank bikies for giving them the power to instill fear into the all the 'worker ants' everybody should see Zeitgeist and understand how the media and politicians use fear as tools for their own, profitable agendas.

Posted by: elroy of 12:24pm today
Comment 15 of 30

Human Rights! thats all we seem to hear in regards to these new laws. Bikies and members of criminal organisations and their hang abouts waive their claim to human rights when they participate in or permit the human rights of individuals to be infringed upon through intimidation, extortion and the threat of violence. This is not the USA, people do not have a fundamental right to bear arms, especially bikies, no one should be able to carry an unlicensed illegal firearm. If you do, or you hang around with someone that does, then get prepared to get racked and stacked. Lets see how brave they are without their gang behind them and without a firearm.

Posted by: P'd Off of Adelaide 12:13pm today
Comment 14 of 30

Sounds good in theory... but lets see if this new legislation can actually work against the ones that it is intended to target!

Posted by: Olivia of Adelaide 12:12pm today
Comment 13 of 30

Atli, it doesn't matter if these laws are aimed at you and I if we are law abiding, non-gun-toting SA citizens. I like my civil libertiesas much as you amte, but I dont't see how this particular legislation will reduce my personal liberties. As for thugs / dealers / etc... yeah, they could have a bit of a hard time!

Posted by: free of enfield 12:08pm today
Comment 12 of 30

Ugh. This sounds like a very flawed piece of legislation to me. What is wrong with simply enforcing the existing laws for criminal use of firearms?? Or if politicians want to be seen to be doing something, how about just increasing the penalties for crime associated with firearms and other weapons - not "paper" crimes like forgetting to register or whatever - actual misuse like armed robbery, assault or murder? You know - stuff that would actually make a difference...

Posted by: Brenton of Wellington 11:56am today
Comment 11 of 30

I would like to ask a question. Do these laws actually mention Bikies or do they not mention any group specifically? I believe that the Government is using the Bikie name to get these laws passed without too much fuss, unless someone can tell me any different, I will believe that these laws apply to us all.

Posted by: james campbell of elizabeth north SA 11:47am today
Comment 10 of 30

It wont be too long and unknowingly being in the company of someone with a bad attitude will attract a 15 year sentence.....These laws again highlight the fact that the government is simply playing populist politics and has no real idea on how to effectively tackle real crime.

Posted by: Tony of Brunswick 11:45am today
Comment 9 of 30

Paulm? No ones rights have been eroded. I think the law is too soft. Why should anyone be carrying a gun or weapon on the street? They should be sentenced to life in prison for doing so.

Posted by: Jeremy of 11:45am today
Comment 8 of 30

Pathetic. "Bikie gangs" aren't the problem; particular people are. What a backward state we live in. Gosh, 15 years for having a gun? Absurd.

Posted by: Moo of SA 11:44am today
Comment 7 of 30

I hate bikies... they are a waste of human life. Who in their right mind would be ok holding a gun to a person's head? Who would be ok with treatening/hurting someone and taking a life? Who would be ok breaking into someones home? who would be ok with dealing and doing drugs? Certainly not the sort of people (if you could call them that) we want anywhere near our families and kids.... I hope these new laws give the Police the powers they need to make our streets safer against bikies... Then it should be extended to gangs in general. Yes it is a free country for people to do as they please but within the laws.... and for the record... I REALLY hate Bikies. I wont hesitate to do what it takes to help get them into jail.... even join the police force to do something about it myself

Posted by: Bikie Hater of not telling you thats for sure! 11:41am today
Comment 6 of 30

Paulm of Adelaide - don't panic, normal firearms owners will not be affected by this legislation. The criteria to have a prohibition order placed on a person is very specific, including a history of extreme violence. Do we want extremely violent people to possess guns?

Posted by: PieFloater of Pie Cart 11:37am today
Comment 5 of 30

it is interesting that none of this draconian legislation mentions the work "bikie". The reality is that it is aimed at everyone in SA. A new slogan for SA licence plates "SA-The Police State"

Posted by: Atli Freiherr Von Bansch of Adelaide 11:36am today
Comment 4 of 30

No-one in their right mind would consider outlaw motorcycle clubs to be knitting circles. However guilt by association and draconain police state laws are not the answer either. The Attorney general objects to his laws being likened to Nazi Germany. He is right to object as his laws are considerably more draconian than those of Nazi Germany. SA has become a Police State without accountability through an ICAC. it is only a matter of time until innocent citizens get caught up in the drag net.

Posted by: Atli Freiherr Von Bansch of Adelaide 11:33am today
Comment 3 of 30

It's good to see some action and progress in this area.

Posted by: PavPaaa of the Swamp 11:27am today
Comment 2 of 30

It will be very interesting to see how the first case goes in court... I'm not a fan of bikies, I've seen a bikie do a drug deal in front of me, and when he saw that I saw him he made a gun sign at his head and looked at me, not pleasant at all. I've also heard plenty of stories from people who've seen other things first hand. But these laws do concern me, it seems like another example of the Government using fear of a particular group (bikies this month, the Federal Liberal Government like using fear of terrorists) to erode EVERYBODIES fundamental human rights.

Posted by: paulm of adelaide 11:23am today