checking oil

  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago

    well i check my oil yesterday hadn't been ridden all week so it was cold as . when i looked at it was was well over the hot mark.I was going to morgan and wackers in the morn (today) so i get them to fix this problem of too much oil . When i told the dude at the service he ask if i screwed the top all the way in to check i said yes he said well there's ya problem you shouldn't do that u just stick it in and there's ya reading. So i gets hm and tell taxi this cause he had oil issues of having to much and empty some out but he also checked by screwing all the way in as well. Couple of mins later he walks up stairs with the manual and shows me the paragraph for hot and cold check and says TO screw back all the way in .So then he rings M&W Brisbane they tell him that some you do screw all the way in and some u dont so we here at M&W have decided to do all the same way which is not screw in at all.

     

    So what the right  way ??

    does it matter??

    if u do 1 way or the other u either have too much or too little oil .

    what have we all got to say on this matter?

    \maybe we can work out what the go is .Its a bit strange that the manual say 1 way and the service department does another . 

  • Phillthy
    Phillthy
    16 years ago
    Better to much than too little.

    Does it spew oil out anywhere?
  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago
    tHx philthy nah no oil spewing out just want to know the right way to check my oil .

    we have had lots of looks but no comments interesting.

    so we dont check our oil?

    we dont screw it in when we check
    and we do screw it in .

    we also r not concerned that manual says 1 thing and brisbane and the goldcoast M&W both do it by not screwing the dip stick in which is contradictory to what the manual says .Maybe the level by doing either way is nothing to worry about .
  • twincam88b
    twincam88b
    16 years ago
    66 Stix is right, check with dipstick screwed in (after you have wiped it dry). Also this is debated in length at V Twin forum as well, as Stix said. Seems to be a lot of opinions on this issue, is it 3.5 quarts, or is it 4 quarts?
    I did raise a similar issue in the Touring section and didn't get any replies, maybe everyone is confused.
    I will wait for others to have an opinion on this issue in this section. Not everyone visits "Touring" or any of the specific model threads that they don't have an interest in.

    Funny thing is that HD have only recently made it easier to check the oil, by being on the jiffy stand as opposed to the bike being level. Not a very accurate method, trying to sit on the bike level and pulling out the dipstick on a softail.

    I'm sure all service departments have a slightly different policy on how much oil for each model they service.

    Unless you sit there after a service and check the level in your gearbox and engine oil, you are putting a lot of trust in their work. Maybe drive around the corner before you check. It does enter my mind on the 2 hour trip home, that if the motor blows or gearbox fails through lack of oil, how are you going to prove it???

    I remember a bad service or two I had at my local Holden dealership years ago. Bit's left off the engine compartment (picked up before I left the yard) and a oil filler cap missing. (Noticed the day the wife brought the car home).

    Only a couple of weeks ago my daughter drove home to have a major service done on her car, belts, pulleys etc. When she was driving back to Adelaide it started to miss and carryon when she slowed for Port Wakefield (half way home). The RAA guy was damn right useless and told her she should limp onto Adelaide. Fuggin dickwad.
    Anyway I spoke to the mechanic, and he was happy to drive down and sort out the problem, and this was at 9.30pm. I followed him down, and left my car with my daughter and we brought the car back. Went like a charm on the way home, but better safe than sorry.
    Seemed to be a hiccup probably due to changing so many filters etc. We replaced the plug leads and stuck in a bottle of injector cleaner in the tank and it was fine. So at least this guy was prepared to back is workmanship.
    A bit off discussion there but there is different levels of CARE.

    Probably Scotty will tell us to do our own services.............lol

    I will watch with interest........"twincam"

    (I used to sign tc, but then TC joined the forum)
  • twincam88b
    twincam88b
    16 years ago
    I would agree with that RT, the very reason why I still take it back during the warranty period.
    Maybe that's why they give you 2 years, not one, so they can make more money out of you......................cynical bastard eh!!!!
  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago
    all that is good info if u r servicing your own bike but not on topic sorry.

    all i want to know is the correct way to check yer oil .

    screw in.
    dont screw in.

    Morgan and Wackers in Brissy and Gold Coast dont screw in .the owners manual says screw in . One would think that the service department would be in the know .but they arnt doing what the service manual says.

    Once again does it not matter which method u use screw in, dont screw in ?
    Am i making a mountain out of a mole hill ?
  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago
    i dont know if its the same as a car in u can get others(qualified of course) to service your bike and your warranty will still be honored. Any1 know the answere to this?

    When asked there excuse ( morgan and whackers)was some u screw in and some u dont so we unified the lot and dont screw in .Which doesn't help me cause i dont know if the Dyna is a screw in or out .

    but little by little its getting clearer threw this thread
  • shfunky
    shfunky
    16 years ago

    Is it just me or are the instructions the same for cold or hot engine, ie " if the oil level is below the lower mark add enough oil to bring the level to between lower level 1 and cold check level 2 "????? These are the same for both. I would think on a hot engine you would want it between cold check level 2 and hot check level 3 ??.

    Anyway they are not good instructions as there is a lot of latitude to where you fill to ie "add enough to bring level up to between check levels.

    I checked mine and it is a cold engine and the level is at the hot check level 3, which is where Trivetts filled it to last service. WTF.

    I checked my manual and it's the same as the file supplied by Scotty.

  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago
    from what i gather from what u said shfunky they (trivetts) have filled yer oil they same way M&W do .Mine is then same going by the manual u have too much oil.
  • Fat-Boy
    Fat-Boy
    16 years ago

    Techie at Trivett in Sydney said " rule of thumb, look into the oil box and the level should be just on the bottom of the neck". When the dipstick is resting on top (not screwed in) it shows full. Thats what I have been doing and the scoot is good.  

  • WhatTaxi
    WhatTaxi
    16 years ago
    original post was about 08 dyna's
  • ubdead66
    ubdead66
    16 years ago
    the point is at M&W brisbane and gold coast it dont matter what model they do it 1 way by not screwing it in.So if u check yer oil by the manual u will have to much oil

    i carnt take to another dealer will void my warranty wont it ???

    and im talking dyna but as i said above to M&W i dont matter they dont screw in and at the moment i have too much oil in my bike even tho oil isnt spewing out .