the never-ending Shovel maintenance thread

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  • bricktop
    bricktop
    16 years ago

    i agree with the white walls, i generally liek them ht maybe on more touring type bikes.

     

    Besides that i think its killer, and im fuking jelaous. Hopeful soon i will be able to write novel sized posts about the woes of a 25+ year old engine.

  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Nice one Dave....oh the fun of the old beasts. I love the tinkering but learning through trial and error which is part of the fun.

    I have a habit of tightening until i strip it then back her off a touch..ha ha

    Have a question for you.

    I know you are not a big fan of the Super B Carby but i tend to like them and have one with a Kuriykan Hypercharger. As i do not like the Hypercharger cause it whines a bit for some reason which annoys me i got an S & S Super off Egay. It also came with a super B carby (spare now) and backing plate. Took the Hypercharger off and was putting S & S on and found i had a spare air hose which was directed into the hypercharger with no where to connect on the S & S....any ideas. There is a small hole in the backing plate which i assumed was for a threaded nipple or similar to connect the hose too????

    Your help or may be a couple of close ups of yours would be great mate. Do you have the super E?

    Also what oil you running??? Any leaks??? What year is yours??

    Like it mate. Was thinking of saddle bags but thought it would look funny but i like yours mate. I'm not a big fan of the white walls either but looks ok with your pain job.

    Cheers mate.
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Good to hear you had a relatively trouble free run.

    With regards to the teardrop S & S air filter, can you just tell me if looking from the front, if there is a hose going into the front of the backing plate?? I have had a look at S & S site and some helpful info but not what i am looking for.

    Also where are you getting your straight 50w oil from. I have checked several joints with no luck.

    With the brakes i would say the master cylinder plunger is getting held up or the spring getting caught or similar. I had to rebuild both of mine and work a treat now and relatively quick and easy.

    Cheers mate.
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Cheers Kiwidave. No mate do not know of any Oil World here but i will find the shit somewhere. Cheers.....now care to elaborate on all the talk about the sisters on the last ride??? ;)
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Found some Oil finally. Bloody difficult to find this stuff i tell ya. This is what i got..

    Heavy Duty SAE 50
    A monograde SAE 50 designed for engines requiring a straight grade and older type engines. Suitable for older harley motor cycles i.e. Shovel Engines.

    Suitable for use in: Leaded, Unleaded, Light Diesel and Older 4 stroke motorcycle engines.

    API: SG/CD

    Packages sizes: 5Lt, 20Lt, 200Lt, Bulk
  • Panchop
    Panchop
    16 years ago
    I was runnin a CV carbie on me pan and had a few problems with the ole girl gettin hot and hard to start, after switchin to a series B SS carbie and beehive oil coller/filter she starts first kick (after priming) and runs cooler, I also use straight 50 motor oil

    my biker after a long run will also strt to cough a little thru the carby in low revs, nothin to serious thou
  • bricktop
    bricktop
    16 years ago

    Just wanted to know what workshop manual you shovel head blokes recomend, the Haynes or the Clymer. or both?

  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    I have the original for the shovel and the clymer but cant remember for what models.....let me know when you get your bike and i will somehow get you a copy as i have original on disk.
  • bricktop
    bricktop
    16 years ago

    any links to where to purchase a factory manual? can only turn up the Clymer and Haynes.

  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Probably a stupid question mate but is the disc warped at all???
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    The caliper bracket isn't bent at all then is it since the old disc was REAL warped...thought it may have taken a hit and knocked the whole thing out a tad and as the pistons took up it may grab???? Just trying to think outside the norm...???!!!

    Pain in the arse especially with the HD brakes being as dodgy as they are only having front.....stay safe man!
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Make sure to post a piccy Kymbo of the tank filler as i am often blinded by the bloody shine off the chrome and have been thinking of other options....may be i should stop polishing her sooo often.

    Got a La Pera bare bones solo for her the other day and chucked it on...very happy with the look as the lines seem to run a bit better now and sportier. Yet to try the comfort side of it out but i'm sure it will be ok.
  • ShovelnTC
    ShovelnTC
    16 years ago

    Hey Dave, I haven't read all the responses but if no-one else has answered the question yes there are thin o-rings in the rocker shaft end nuts. (the end with the allen heads).

  • ShovelnTC
    ShovelnTC
    16 years ago
    Yeah Hawg would have all the info but you should be able to get to them by removing the oposite nut and tapping the shaft through just enough (about 5mm I think) to get to the o-rings. You will also need to loosen the pushrods off to take tension from the valve springs off the shaft.

    I would have thought that I should have some pics from when I had mine apart but I can't find em!
  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    Yeah i will chuck some pics on when i got a minute...in the middle of packing the house for the move to QLD so bit busy but still a bit of time to play with the scoot......nice ride TC!!
  • The Don
    The Don
    16 years ago

    Hi Kiwidave,

    Can I  run this one past you?

    Regarding your brake problem, had someting similar happen to me with my 81. After all sorts of attempts to fix it I discovered that the hub was at fault. The surface that the disc bolts on to was not straight , so changing disc helped for a short while but the problem came back and the new disc was stuffed. Just a thought.

    Regards,

    Cris aka The Don.

  • The Don
    The Don
    16 years ago

    Hi Kiwidave,

    It sounds like the shovel is getting loved, only way to truly appreciate your bike, wrench on it and get to know each nut and bolt. In regards to your brake question, it kind of makes sense that you wouldn’t want your master cylinder right next to your pipes. Leaves two solutions, 1- move the master cylinder ( may involve a lot of fiddly work, ’cause moving one thing means you have to move or adjust another, etc, etc.) or 2- insulate the master cylinder from the heat. This you may be able to do by heat wrap on the pipe (may not look too hot ) or making a little shield between the cylinder and the pipes ( a thin piece of aluminium sheet cut to fit and with some thin roof insulation, the thin foil type they use with colorbond roofs, stuck to it) and attaching it by the master cylinder bolts. If you have the Harley chrome master cylinder cover they used on FLH’s you could insulate that instead. You also mentioned the small leak at the rocker arm shaft, a good thing to do is to replace the shaft spacer with a “Ram Jett Rocker arm kit”, basically this replaces the spacer with a spring type washer and a “leak proof seal “ rather than the stock O ring, it keeps the rocker shaft at the right clearance and prevents the tick, tick noise you sometimes hear on the old shovels ( which people mistake for all sort of other problems.) It’s shit easy to do, and the kit is not expensive. You can do this without taking the rocker covers off. All you do is take the allen head section off the right hand side, remove the orange-top nut (left side )off the rocker arm shaft and using an appropriate tool ( a big phillips head screwdriver with a long shaft ) push the rocker arm shaft out slowly and gently. LEAVING THE SCREWDRIVER IN ALL THE WAY. The screwdriver holds the rocker arm in place while you change the spacer with the spring type washer. Then reinsert the rocker arm shaft while slowly removing the screwdriver. You can now replace the left hand nut (I put a chrome one in place of stock) put the new leakproof seal on the right and put the allen key section back in. Make sure everything is tight and you’re done.

    regards, The Don

  • The Don
    The Don
    16 years ago

    Fair enough, I used them way back then( put them in  82) and had no trouble, mine had "Made in USA' on them, but now they may be made in Taiwan as most parts are these days.

     

  • hutch82
    hutch82
    16 years ago
    The Don, nice to get some good tips and advise mate.....sounds like you have had a fair play with the old beasts?

    Let us know how you get along with the brake issue KD......
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