Twin cam cam tensioners after 86,000 KLMS

  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    21 days ago
    Have not posted here in a while, not because I have been snorting Ajax off Whores arseholes worst luck.
    BUT  I did pay a nice local skilled mechanic to change the cam chain tensioners on my 2008 FXST this week.
    Seem to remember the 2007 models and earlier had issues with the tensioners and perhaps the 2008 models were better?.
    Anyway this is what mine looked like (see pics) after 86000 ks.
    Oil changes every 5000ks roughly with Mobile V oil then SE oil for some time.
    They look reasonably worn but if you were sphincterly challenged (tightarse) and knew how worn they were without getting them out to look at the wear I guess you could get a fair few more Ks out of them. 10K 15K who knows?
    I'd rather not get to the point when riding down the road to realise they are kapoot.
    Posting just for twin cam owners interest.
    Cheers
  • Adam76
    Adam76
    21 days ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 11 Dec 2025 10:30 AM

    Have not posted here in a while, not because I have been snorting Ajax off Whores arseholes worst luck.

    BUT  I did pay a nice local skilled mechanic to change the cam chain tensioners on my 2008 FXST this week.
    Seem to remember the 2007 models and earlier had issues with the tensioners and perhaps the 2008 models were better?.
    Anyway this is what mine looked like (see pics) after 86000 ks.
    Oil changes every 5000ks roughly with Mobile V oil then SE oil for some time.
    They look reasonably worn but if you were sphincterly challenged (tightarse) and knew how worn they were without getting them out to look at the wear I guess you could get a fair few more Ks out of them. 10K 15K who knows?
    I'd rather not get to the point when riding down the road to realise they are kapoot.
    Posting just for twin cam owners interest.
    Cheers

    If that were my bike, I'd be definitely changing those out for new ones while you have the cam chest open. IMO not worth the risk of then disintegrating mid ride. 
    Are they genuine HD tensioners or aftermarket?
  • Stuart
    Stuart
    21 days ago
    They look like the later hydraulic tensioners that were the "fix" for the spring loaded ones. Neither of them were an ideal solution. Good job you changed them :-)
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    21 days ago
    Cheers for that FC. I don't have quite as many k's on my bike but I could have been more diligent with the oil changes over the years. 
    I will be putting the bike on the hoist next week to do the back disc and calliper so I will pull the cover off and have a look. Pretty sure I had the cover off for a look a few years back and they looked OK but after looking at your photos I think it's probably worth checking again. 
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    20 days ago
    The hydraulic tensioners pictured present as typical wear for the k's, however, as the rollers come into contact with the tensioner that slows down wear considerably, I'd still change them if I was in there though, shame the cranks are so hit and miss, gear drive eliminates plastic from the engines diet.
  • Adam76
    Adam76
    19 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 12 Dec 2025 10:47 AM

    The hydraulic tensioners pictured present as typical wear for the k's, however, as the rollers come into contact with the tensioner that slows down wear considerably, I'd still change them if I was in there though, shame the cranks are so hit and miss, gear drive eliminates plastic from the engines diet.

    Yeah, I agree. 
    If crank run out was. 003 or less I'd be going gear drive myself. 
  • Neale
    Neale
    19 days ago
    They look ok for the kms the bikes travelled.
    The ones in my 08 FLHT looked about the same after 92,000 kms.
    I also do my oil/filter every 5,000kms and use quality synthetic oil.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    13 days ago
    Took the cam cover off for a look.
    The outer tensioner that you can see easily doesn't look too bad. 
    The inner one that you can sort of see looks a bit worse. There must be another one in behind that you can't see at all.
    I wasn't game to go any further without doing some research on what's involved in stripping it down and replacing them so I put the cover back on. Might have to watch a couple of YouTube videos. 
    Does anyone know if any special tools are required and is it a complicated job ?
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    13 days ago
    There is only those 2 for the cams, your inner looks pretty worn as you say, best get it done soon.

    I'll add, if it was mine I'd do it now.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    12 days ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 19 Dec 2025 11:59 PM

    Took the cam cover off for a look.

    The outer tensioner that you can see easily doesn't look too bad. 
    The inner one that you can sort of see looks a bit worse. There must be another one in behind that you can't see at all.
    I wasn't game to go any further without doing some research on what's involved in stripping it down and replacing them so I put the cover back on. Might have to watch a couple of YouTube videos. 
    Does anyone know if any special tools are required and is it a complicated job ?

    Beags, Usually I would have had a crack at changing mine myself but just had too much other stuff to do.
    You have to either pull the rocker gear out to remove the non adjustable pushrods or cut the pushrods out and replace them with adjustable ones and avoid taking out the rocker gear.
    The bloke who did mine also put in new cam bearings which was good and probably something I may have overlooked.
    It was about a 5 hour job.
    Hope that helps.
    Cheers
  • Stuart
    Stuart
    12 days ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 19 Dec 2025 11:59 PM

    Took the cam cover off for a look.

    The outer tensioner that you can see easily doesn't look too bad. 
    The inner one that you can sort of see looks a bit worse. There must be another one in behind that you can't see at all.
    I wasn't game to go any further without doing some research on what's involved in stripping it down and replacing them so I put the cover back on. Might have to watch a couple of YouTube videos. 
    Does anyone know if any special tools are required and is it a complicated job ?

    I've done them twice. Not overly complicated. Definitely want a manual in my view though. No specialty tools required from memory. If you are changing the inner cam bearings you need some kind of bearing puller. There are specialty tools available to remove and install these bearings. Bearings in the cam plate need to be pressed out and in if you are changing them. The 5 hours mentioned by Far Canal is for a professional - I'm pretty slow - and prone to overthinking things - and it takes me a lot longer than this :-)
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    12 days ago
    Thanks for the information fellas.
    Haven't had time to do any research yet. I agree with the comment about the manual, the one I have only covers the basic stuff, doesn't have a section for the cams.
    I will look into the cost involved to go gear drive and I will get a quote from the dealer to do it and make a decision then.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    11 days ago
    Beages I don't want to sound like an alarmist here, however I want you to look really carefully at your first picture, notice the chain to pad relationship front and rear of that pad, specifically noting the pads thickness in relation to how it sits on the chain and material thickness to the carrier.
    Now compare the image you have noted on the front pad and conceptualise those dimensions of the front pad to the views you have of the rear pad in the other two pictures.
    For mine it appears to me you are nearly, if not already at the point that makes this set up so infamous, change them, check them again in another 20000km, no need for the expense of gear drive unless it makes you sleep better at night.
    At the dealer this will be expensive, you can buy the tools needed to do the inner cam bearings cheaply off eBay, not shop quality but definitely will do the job at home, as Stuart said, the factory service manual is invaluable, I'm surprised you don't own one already, I won't harp on, it's your bike and your call.
  • Stuart
    Stuart
    11 days ago
    Adding to Hilly's last comment - in my limited experience, the rear tensioner wears more quickly than the front one. 
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    5 days ago
    I have decided to replace the tensioners with stock ones and fit the adjustable pushrods.  
    I started checking things out on ebay and the prices for the pushrods are all over the place,  some are around the $60 mark for the whole kit delivered from USA and others up over $400.
    I would hate to buy something cheap and nasty only to have it fail, especially a critical part of the motor like that but I am thinking that they should all be pretty good quality. 
    I'm not real familiar with eBay.
    Anybody have an opinion on why the big differences in price  ?
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    4 days ago
    My opinion only, don't go any less quality than these, smith bros are the best apparently, I've used lots of the HD ones, currently using S&S, these Cyco are supposed to be on par with S&S, thread on HTT were one bloke says he uses them on mild builds with no issues.