2 way torque wrench?

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  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    10 days ago
    Wondering if anyone has a torque wrench that torques both right and left handed threads in the one tool?.
    Got 3 of the things and they only do right hand threads,
    So what have you got that does both?
    A pic of the elusive thing would be good as well.
    Cheers
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    10 days ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 15 Apr 2025 10:32 AM

    Wondering if anyone has a torque wrench that torques both right and left handed threads in the one tool?.

    Got 3 of the things and they only do right hand threads,
    So what have you got that does both?
    A pic of the elusive thing would be good as well.
    Cheers

    I've got a bit of tooling that allows you to use your normal torque wrench on left handed threads, I'll post a pic if you are interested.

    I see you did want a pic, I'll stick one up.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    10 days ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 15 Apr 2025 10:32 AM

    Wondering if anyone has a torque wrench that torques both right and left handed threads in the one tool?.

    Got 3 of the things and they only do right hand threads,
    So what have you got that does both?
    A pic of the elusive thing would be good as well.
    Cheers

    I've got one as well. Will post a pic tomorrow.
    Its really simple, it doesn't have an output shaft, just a 1/2" square hole. A 1/2" male-male extension can be laid in from either side.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    10 days ago
    This is mine, more than one way to skin a cat as Steve's sounds different, you just have to keep it 90° to the wrench shaft, gives you the same torque as the setting, have seen them made out of flat bar as well.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    9 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 15 Apr 2025 11:11 AM

    This is mine, more than one way to skin a cat as Steve's sounds different, you just have to keep it 90° to the wrench shaft, gives you the same torque as the setting, have seen them made out of flat bar as well.

    I would have thought that you would have to dial the torque setting back a bit to compensate for the offset in that gizmo Hilly.  But then your explanation to keep it 90 °  to the torque wrench sunk in.   Pretty clever.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    9 days ago
    Most torque wrenches other than beam type allow reversing .


  • Hilly
    Hilly
    9 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 15 Apr 2025 11:24 PM

    Most torque wrenches other than beam type allow reversing .



    video
    I don't trust the each way one's, I've seen too many "calibrated" ones a bit off, unless it's a very expensive variety I'd steer clear, even then I've seen them came back from calibration with a sticker saying they can't be calibrated to standard, I've got two normal Snap- On ones that failed calibration, expensive ratchets now. 
    For anything that matters I'll finish with a Warren and Brown.
    Just my personal experience, others might have better luck.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    9 days ago
    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


  • speedzter
    speedzter
    9 days ago
    Another tool geek out , ( one of my saved channels in YouTube !)


  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    9 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    video
    Thanks Speedzter, that Warren Brown one looks like the go.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    9 days ago
    I've never seen one before! Learnt something today, thanks speedzter 😁👍
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    9 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:11 AM

    Another tool geek out , ( one of my saved channels in YouTube !)


    video
    I found that clip interesting. I've been tightening nuts and bolts for more years than I care to remember and it was only about five years ago that I learned that if you put neversieze or similar on the thread, you pretty much double the actual clamping force (tension) on the bolt for the same amount of torque applied to the bolt.


  • Stuart
    Stuart
    9 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 15 Apr 2025 11:11 AM

    This is mine, more than one way to skin a cat as Steve's sounds different, you just have to keep it 90° to the wrench shaft, gives you the same torque as the setting, have seen them made out of flat bar as well.

    I understand the concept - but how easy is this jigger to use? No dramas keeping it square on the bolt head/nut at higher torque settings?
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    9 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 15 Apr 2025 11:24 PM

    Most torque wrenches other than beam type allow reversing .



    video
    I have got 2 torque wrenches that are not beam type and they do not work reversing.
    I hoped they might when I bought them but NO, they don't.
    Reckon yours do?, try them.
    Good chance disappointment awaits.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    9 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:11 AM

    Another tool geek out , ( one of my saved channels in YouTube !)


    video
    Quoting beaglebasher on 16 Apr 2025 08:18 AM

    I found that clip interesting. I've been tightening nuts and bolts for more years than I care to remember and it was only about five years ago that I learned that if you put neversieze or similar on the thread, you pretty much double the actual clamping force (tension) on the bolt for the same amount of torque applied to the bolt.



    Engineers know this, it is why you follow the bastards procedure, IE, lube thread with what they recommend or do it up dry, can get awful out of shape if it's a finicky as I'm sure you know but thought it needed to be said as someone else reading this might not.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    9 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 15 Apr 2025 11:11 AM

    This is mine, more than one way to skin a cat as Steve's sounds different, you just have to keep it 90° to the wrench shaft, gives you the same torque as the setting, have seen them made out of flat bar as well.

    Quoting Stuart on 16 Apr 2025 08:51 AMedited: 16 Apr 2025 08:58 AM

    I understand the concept - but how easy is this jigger to use? No dramas keeping it square on the bolt head/nut at higher torque settings?

    As long as the head of the bolt or nut are in good nick and the socket is too it all works well, you just lean on it until you get them locked up and seated straight then it's just pulling straight like normal, not had a problem but then it is rarely needed...... until it is.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    9 days ago
    This is mine, an English made one I bought in 1979 when I had to face higher torques after buying an International AA110 for family transport and a Fergy 35 tractor.
    Pics aren't real good, lighting in the shed isn't good.
    20 to 200 ft lbs.
    You can see the pretty simple solution to the problem, no output shaft just a square drive hole. To reverse direction to torque LH threads, just push the extension through the drive hole, flip over the tool and go at it. Can't remember the maker unfortunately, and the branding label has broken up many years ago. Last had it calibrated in 2003 in Brisbane, they reckoned it was spot on when it left their workshop.

  • Hilly
    Hilly
    8 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    video
    Guess what Mr Observant discovered today.....
    If ever I get a very small left hand thread to torque I'm all set, 1/4 drive🤦
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    8 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    video
    Quoting Hilly on 17 Apr 2025 04:59 AM

    Guess what Mr Observant discovered today.....

    If ever I get a very small left hand thread to torque I'm all set, 1/4 drive🤦

    Same sort of deal, drive can be inserted from either side?
    Haven't had to deal with LH threads since I bought the Sporty.
    The old Inter AA110 had LH thread wheel studs on one side. Found that out the hard way.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    7 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    video
    Quoting Hilly on 17 Apr 2025 04:59 AM

    Guess what Mr Observant discovered today.....

    If ever I get a very small left hand thread to torque I'm all set, 1/4 drive🤦

    I wish I had one of those the other day Hilly. It looks to be a Warren Brown one to boot.
    The reason I started this topic was I had found three broken spokes on the back wheel of my FXR. They were all inner spokes on the sprocket side.
    I had not long before put a new rim and new stainless steel spokes on, so was a bit pissed to see the broken ones.
    Could only think that I must have overtightened them, so bought a spoke torque wrench adapter from Buchanans (see pics) for a "Kings ransom".
    Due to the design of spokes though when you tighten them you are going in an anti clockwise way. So I could not even use my pricey new adapter. Of course they don't tell you you need a reversing torque wrench to use it before you buy.
    Also need a reversable torque wrench for the clutch hub nut on my shovel which managed to undo itself last ride.
    Thanks for the replies you blokes.
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