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  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    7 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    torque wr.jpg
    video
    Quoting Hilly on 17 Apr 2025 04:59 AM

    Guess what Mr Observant discovered today.....

    If ever I get a very small left hand thread to torque I'm all set, 1/4 drivešŸ¤¦

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    I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread but if you push the 1/2" square drive all the way through and turn the torque wrench upside down, wouldn't that effectively give you a torque wrench that is reading in an anti clockwise direction (left hand thread) ?
    I have used that type in Hilly's photo quite often but never had to use it on a Left hand thread. I always wondered why the square drive wasn't fixed in position and now I think about it that is probably the reason for it.
    Fuck I'm clever !
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    7 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 16 Apr 2025 02:06 AM

    My "very old" warren Brown beam style actually has a ratcheting double sided 1/2" drive.
    I don't even know if they are still available !


    For the Tool geeks out there :


    torque wr.jpg
    video
    Quoting Hilly on 17 Apr 2025 04:59 AM

    Guess what Mr Observant discovered today.....

    If ever I get a very small left hand thread to torque I'm all set, 1/4 drivešŸ¤¦

    PXL_20250417_045640362.MP.jpg
    Quoting beaglebasher on 18 Apr 2025 06:42 AM

    I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread but if you push the 1/2" square drive all the way through and turn the torque wrench upside down, wouldn't that effectively give you a torque wrench that is reading in an anti clockwise direction (left hand thread) ?

    I have used that type in Hilly's photo quite often but never had to use it on a Left hand thread. I always wondered why the square drive wasn't fixed in position and now I think about it that is probably the reason for it.
    Fuck I'm clever !

    You an me both haha.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    6 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 16 Apr 2025 12:34 PM

    This is mine, an English made one I bought in 1979 when I had to face higher torques after buying an International AA110 for family transport and a Fergy 35 tractor.

    Pics aren't real good, lighting in the shed isn't good.
    20 to 200 ft lbs.
    You can see the pretty simple solution to the problem, no output shaft just a square drive hole. To reverse direction to torque LH threads, just push the extension through the drive hole, flip over the tool and go at it. Can't remember the maker unfortunately, and the branding label has broken up many years ago. Last had it calibrated in 2003 in Brisbane, they reckoned it was spot on when it left their workshop.

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    Sorry obisteve I must have missed that post.
    How did you go FC ?
    It looks like most torque wrenches will do left hand threads if you have one with the removable square drive?
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    5 days ago
    Mate, no need to apologise, wasn't gonna go boo hoo.
    You came to the right conclusion by yourself.
    I've got a mid 70's Sidchrome ratchet drive that works the same way, but I don't use it, always reach for one of their more usual style ones from a couple of years later, even though the reversing ratchet probably isn't as strong. But that's what breaker bars are for.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    5 days ago
    Had to rebuild front wheels pretty frequently when running a side car, broke 7 in one enthusiastic trip down through the Dulong S's with the chair on a Yam TX650. The Honda 750 that replaced it had a stronger front wheel.
    Always set the spoke tension by the tone of the ping when I tapped them with a spanner.
    But then, if I had something like your spoke adapter and could have found a recommended torque for the heavy gauge spokes I was getting made, I might have needed to replace less of them.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    4 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 16 Apr 2025 12:34 PM

    This is mine, an English made one I bought in 1979 when I had to face higher torques after buying an International AA110 for family transport and a Fergy 35 tractor.

    Pics aren't real good, lighting in the shed isn't good.
    20 to 200 ft lbs.
    You can see the pretty simple solution to the problem, no output shaft just a square drive hole. To reverse direction to torque LH threads, just push the extension through the drive hole, flip over the tool and go at it. Can't remember the maker unfortunately, and the branding label has broken up many years ago. Last had it calibrated in 2003 in Brisbane, they reckoned it was spot on when it left their workshop.

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    20250416_215418.jpg
    20250416_215501.jpg
    this looks like a Williams,i have one that looks identical.bought mine in 1978-9. never tried it for left hand jobs.... i wonder ?,off to the shed.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    4 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 16 Apr 2025 12:34 PM

    This is mine, an English made one I bought in 1979 when I had to face higher torques after buying an International AA110 for family transport and a Fergy 35 tractor.

    Pics aren't real good, lighting in the shed isn't good.
    20 to 200 ft lbs.
    You can see the pretty simple solution to the problem, no output shaft just a square drive hole. To reverse direction to torque LH threads, just push the extension through the drive hole, flip over the tool and go at it. Can't remember the maker unfortunately, and the branding label has broken up many years ago. Last had it calibrated in 2003 in Brisbane, they reckoned it was spot on when it left their workshop.

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    20250416_215418.jpg
    20250416_215501.jpg
    Quoting brucefxdl on 21 Apr 2025 02:47 AM

    this looks like a Williams,i have one that looks identical.bought mine in 1978-9. never tried it for left hand jobs.... i wonder ?,off to the shed.

    well,there you go, it does left and right,learn something new every day...never had a job that needed left hand torque setting.anything i came across with lefthand threads were turn buckles....no need for anymore than tighten by feel.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    4 days ago
    Thanks for the memory jog Bruce, it is a Williams. Being reminded of that, you can see the traces of the name remaining on the label.
    And reading about them online, I can see I was wrong, they're made in USA not England and still in business as part of Snap On.
    Ah well, I've still got a Swedish made Sidchrome 18" shifter.
    Only LH thread torque I've done with it is Norton gearbox sprocket nuts during my 12 years of running Commandos, 80 ft lbs with a locking tab. I used to just gorilla them tight, but then I snapped a mainshaft under hard use and made the change.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    3 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 21 Apr 2025 10:05 AM

    Thanks for the memory jog Bruce, it is a Williams. Being reminded of that, you can see the traces of the name remaining on the label.

    And reading about them online, I can see I was wrong, they're made in USA not England and still in business as part of Snap On.
    Ah well, I've still got a Swedish made Sidchrome 18" shifter.
    Only LH thread torque I've done with it is Norton gearbox sprocket nuts during my 12 years of running Commandos, 80 ft lbs with a locking tab. I used to just gorilla them tight, but then I snapped a mainshaft under hard use and made the change.

    well there you go,i thought they were english as well.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    3 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 21 Apr 2025 10:05 AM

    Thanks for the memory jog Bruce, it is a Williams. Being reminded of that, you can see the traces of the name remaining on the label.

    And reading about them online, I can see I was wrong, they're made in USA not England and still in business as part of Snap On.
    Ah well, I've still got a Swedish made Sidchrome 18" shifter.
    Only LH thread torque I've done with it is Norton gearbox sprocket nuts during my 12 years of running Commandos, 80 ft lbs with a locking tab. I used to just gorilla them tight, but then I snapped a mainshaft under hard use and made the change.

    Quoting brucefxdl on 21 Apr 2025 12:47 PM

    well there you go,i thought they were english as well.

    OK, should have looked a bit harder before opening my mouth.


    There was an English company as well.
    Like this article, particularly the pics of the war quality spanners. The first BSA 250 I bought in 1972 came with a canvas bag full of them. I needed them. A lot.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    2 days ago
    Quoting obisteve on 21 Apr 2025 10:05 AM

    Thanks for the memory jog Bruce, it is a Williams. Being reminded of that, you can see the traces of the name remaining on the label.

    And reading about them online, I can see I was wrong, they're made in USA not England and still in business as part of Snap On.
    Ah well, I've still got a Swedish made Sidchrome 18" shifter.
    Only LH thread torque I've done with it is Norton gearbox sprocket nuts during my 12 years of running Commandos, 80 ft lbs with a locking tab. I used to just gorilla them tight, but then I snapped a mainshaft under hard use and made the change.

    Quoting brucefxdl on 21 Apr 2025 12:47 PM

    well there you go,i thought they were english as well.

    Quoting obisteve on 21 Apr 2025 11:57 PMedited: 22 Apr 2025 12:06 AM

    OK, should have looked a bit harder before opening my mouth.



    There was an English company as well.
    Like this article, particularly the pics of the war quality spanners. The first BSA 250 I bought in 1972 came with a canvas bag full of them. I needed them. A lot.

    all good Obi, sometimes we miss little things.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    2 days ago
    Who would of expected it, two companies called Williams, one each side of the Atlantic with long histories of quality drop forging and tool making, both known for their torque wrenches, both being bought out by bigger industrial conglomerates then the English one disappearing in the lack of investment and frenzy of asset stripping that bought so much British industry down in the 80s (remember when they had a motorcycle industry that made bikes in England?), the American one still in business with its own well presented website?
    Which one is easier to find out about today? The one with the glossy website of course.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    yesterday
    Good things live on in our memories, for now at least.
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    22 hours ago
    Quoting Hilly on 23 Apr 2025 09:25 PM

    Good things live on in our memories, for now at least.

    And in the shed, every time I torque up something between 20 and 200 ftlbs.
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