New car purchase.....order takers?

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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 days ago
    Well the Mrs jumped in the car to get the groceries last week, hadn't been gone longer than a minute and some young guy rear ended our Kia Sportage at the stop sign up the street. The young guy was deeply upset and highly apologetic and we grabbed his details , wife drove the car home and insurance took over. Car has had the quote stopped at 20k with a indication that potentially a further 5k+ of hidden damage so a payout figure has been negotiated and were now looking at new cars. 
    Its absolutely bizarre how there is no longer a "sales person" that can actually put a deal together anymore ....its just simply quoting the RRP and the RRP for any extras......nothing like hey the price is x and how about we throw in a (full tank of fuel, window tint, mats, bonnet protector, free service) pick one or a range of other possible sweetners to the deal, or god forbid discount the car! 
    End of month, end of year 24 plated cars in runout , why is it so hard? I can/will hop in the hire car and run a hr down the road into Brisbane for the exact same car for the $1500 discount. Just to really shit them i might ask for a overnight test drive and drive their car down to Brisbane to place the order with the opposition! Rant over.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    3 days ago
    I reckon it depends on which brand you’re after.  3 years ago when I bought the RAV hybrid cruiser thing, yep it was here’s the price and be patient, it arrived about a year later.  I’m building a new shed and thought a van would be useful so I called in to look at getting a Hiace.  Same deal, sign here wait 12 months, bugger that.  Went to Hyundai, Staria Load, yeah, ugly as sin but it’ll do, local dealer was full RRP so yeah, I drive to the city they chucked in some extras, knocked 5k off the price and added 3 years free servicing.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 days ago
    Its a VW and thats whats frustrating....there is stock everywhere but because the dealer believes were wont drive down the highway that's the deal
  • STEAMER
    STEAMER
    3 days ago
    Paul, have you thought of using a buyer broker. I have not used yet, but know others who have. Tellem what you want and expect. Andvthey do rest. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 days ago
    Quoting STEAMER on 28 Nov 2024 11:29 PM

    Paul, have you thought of using a buyer broker. I have not used yet, but know others who have. Tellem what you want and expect. Andvthey do rest. 

    Its interesting you say that....this was via a very well known "broker".....they in fact don't do a single thing other than pass your details on to the dealer to contact you and they receive a "spotters fee" for the referral. Stands to reason when you think about it with all the variables buys want with trim levels , delivery dates etc a hands on broker would be non stop as the go between. I contacted three brokers (all have prominent you tube exposure) two got back to me but one fired me a email that opened with.." Hi Paul,
    I can see you are considering a new BMW. Thats great!. 
    Anyway lets see what happens.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    3 days ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 28 Nov 2024 10:29 PM

    Its a VW and thats whats frustrating....there is stock everywhere but because the dealer believes were wont drive down the highway that's the deal

    Do some ringing around and tell him what sort of deal you can get in the city, give him the option of getting near it or he misses out, dealer principal in the know?  VW is shit, buy an Aussie made car.....oh wait.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 days ago
    Ha Ha ....its interesting that the supplied hire car is a Haval H6 ....its no wonder the Chinese brands are taking over the Aussie markets, this thing is only 30k new and has everything on it. They lack a bit of refinement other than that is a VW, Mazda, Kia etc a 20k better car in todays cost of living crisis. We have smashed the klm on this up and down the bruce to Bundy and back twice and is really nice on the open road, too big for the Mrs around town but. Anyway lets whos keen to take my money. 
  • flstc08
    flstc08
    2 days ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 29 Nov 2024 12:21 AM

    Ha Ha ....its interesting that the supplied hire car is a Haval H6 ....its no wonder the Chinese brands are taking over the Aussie markets, this thing is only 30k new and has everything on it. They lack a bit of refinement other than that is a VW, Mazda, Kia etc a 20k better car in todays cost of living crisis. We have smashed the klm on this up and down the bruce to Bundy and back twice and is really nice on the open road, too big for the Mrs around town but. Anyway lets whos keen to take my money. 

    G'day,
    be careful on the Bruce, people are dying left, right & centre... 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 days ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 29 Nov 2024 12:21 AM

    Ha Ha ....its interesting that the supplied hire car is a Haval H6 ....its no wonder the Chinese brands are taking over the Aussie markets, this thing is only 30k new and has everything on it. They lack a bit of refinement other than that is a VW, Mazda, Kia etc a 20k better car in todays cost of living crisis. We have smashed the klm on this up and down the bruce to Bundy and back twice and is really nice on the open road, too big for the Mrs around town but. Anyway lets whos keen to take my money. 

    Quoting flstc08 on 30 Nov 2024 07:27 AM

    G'day,

    be careful on the Bruce, people are dying left, right & centre... 

    And the week before we were headed up to Bundy and the Bruce was shut because a 20yr old male doing 110kph on a dead straight bit of road at 10am in bright sunshine drove straight under a mobile crane doing 60kph with its hazards on going up a gradient. What do drivers look at.... 
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    yesterday
    Quoting paulybronco on 29 Nov 2024 12:21 AM

    Ha Ha ....its interesting that the supplied hire car is a Haval H6 ....its no wonder the Chinese brands are taking over the Aussie markets, this thing is only 30k new and has everything on it. They lack a bit of refinement other than that is a VW, Mazda, Kia etc a 20k better car in todays cost of living crisis. We have smashed the klm on this up and down the bruce to Bundy and back twice and is really nice on the open road, too big for the Mrs around town but. Anyway lets whos keen to take my money. 

    Quoting flstc08 on 30 Nov 2024 07:27 AM

    G'day,

    be careful on the Bruce, people are dying left, right & centre... 

    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2024 11:43 AM

    And the week before we were headed up to Bundy and the Bruce was shut because a 20yr old male doing 110kph on a dead straight bit of road at 10am in bright sunshine drove straight under a mobile crane doing 60kph with its hazards on going up a gradient. What do drivers look at.... 

    Their phones mostly 
  • STEAMER
    STEAMER
    yesterday
    Paul,   just seen add on tv,  
    Haval Jolion demo's $23990, drive away,  in Hervey Bay,  demos normally normally are mid to top of range.  
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    yesterday
    BUT its Chinese crap.  
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    yesterday
    Quoting STEAMER on 30 Nov 2024 09:26 PM

    Paul,   just seen add on tv,  

    Haval Jolion demo's $23990, drive away,  in Hervey Bay,  demos normally normally are mid to top of range.  

    Cheers Steamer they currently have national deals not dissimilar for a brand new vehicle, the Jolion is not on our list after driving one as a hire car previously. We drove a few new VW products yesterday and one of them is on a shortened list. Going to go to the opposite end of the scale and have a drive in the new MG HS. Interestingly i could buy two MG HS  and have a few grand left over for the cost of the VW alone......VW is undoubtedly a better car, but twice as good, with less warranty, bigger service costs....ummm ?  
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    yesterday
    Quoting tussuck on 30 Nov 2024 09:35 PM

    BUT its Chinese crap.  

    LOL they are taking the automotive world over along with the motorcycles. There are something like 8 new to Australia chinese brands hitting our shore in 2025 in the car space. MG currently sit in 8th for volume of cars sold YTD and GWM in 10th....no sign of more known brands VW, Subaru, Mercedes, Honda, Jeep, Skoda, Audi....and the list goes on. Utes dominate the biggest selling vehicle YTD with Rav 4 being the odd one out in second with Ranger leading , Rav 4, Hilux, D max.
     
  • STEAMER
    STEAMER
    yesterday
    Just a heads up, The MG have their indicators & lights on opposite sides of column, as European designed.
     I drove one 18 months ago and forever putting wipers on when i was changing lanes, instead of indicator.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    17 hours ago
    Cheers Steamer RACQ gave us a Haval H6 as a loan car and that's the same. We are driving a new Sportage later in the week as well.
  • B0nes
    B0nes
    15 hours ago
    Quoting STEAMER on 01 Dec 2024 11:47 AM

    Just a heads up, The MG have their indicators & lights on opposite sides of column, as European designed.

     I drove one 18 months ago and forever putting wipers on when i was changing lanes, instead of indicator.

    Glad I'm not the only one. Drive a Truck with the same setup. You get used to it fast, the only problem is that when I get in the car I get it wrong. Very rarely do I stuff up going from car to truck but stuff up more going the other way
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    14 hours ago
    Think its more of a muscle memory thing...its a bit like controls being intuitive it tends to throw you until your brain resets.  
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    9 hours ago
    It gets worse.  A mate has a Merc Vito.  Indicators on the left but worse is that the gear change is on a right side stalk.   His missus often flicking it into neutral or even reverse.  Good thing the car manages it.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    7 hours ago
    Well shit I thought that's why stuff was sort of standardised for a market, fuck it lets put the gas pedal on the left, that should fuck em up!
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