2016 Fatboy Lo Speedometer

  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    9 months
    Hi All, couple of questions if I may please.
    1. How do I increase the number of km’s on the speedo without actually riding it or putting it up on stands and running it?
    2. Is it possible to put an old speedo on from another fatboy with higher kms and power it up for a few seconds, without starting the bike or engaging gear?
    I have been told that 1 above is not possible, and that 2 will immediately produce a “VIN Err” code?

    Thanks in advance. 
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    9 months
    Why??
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    9 months
    On the later HD's with the digital mileage in the speedo the distance is in the bikes control module  (brain) I put a new speedo on my previous '15 wideglide and the mileage stayed the same, but why would ya  
  • imoo6170
    imoo6170
    9 months
    As per WideglidingNZ comments. I put a speedo/tacho on an 09 model softail and the ECU reset the new speedo to the existing klms.

    Found this on the Harley  install instruction

    Both the ECM and speedometer retain the odometer value. If the speedometer is replaced, it displays the odometer value stored in the ECM. The replacement speedometer will become locked to the ECM after 50 km (31.1 mi) have been accumulated. The trip B odometer displays the countdown mileage. Once the countdown reaches zero, the speedometer is locked to the ECM. If installed on another vehicle the odometer displays "VIN ERR". If the speedometer is removed from the vehicle before the countdown reaches zero, it has not been locked to the ECM. This mileage countdown allows for a road test to verify that speedometer replacement was the proper repair.
    During the 50 km (31.1 mi) countdown period (before the speedometer is locked to the ECM), the security light flashes for up to 15 seconds when battery power is restored to the electrical system, while the new gauge synchronizes to the ECM.

  • wildchild
    wildchild
    9 months
    Quoting imoo6170 on 22 Feb 2024 06:53 AM

    As per WideglidingNZ comments. I put a speedo/tacho on an 09 model softail and the ECU reset the new speedo to the existing klms.


    Found this on the Harley  install instruction

    Both the ECM and speedometer retain the odometer value. If the speedometer is replaced, it displays the odometer value stored in the ECM. The replacement speedometer will become locked to the ECM after 50 km (31.1 mi) have been accumulated. The trip B odometer displays the countdown mileage. Once the countdown reaches zero, the speedometer is locked to the ECM. If installed on another vehicle the odometer displays "VIN ERR". If the speedometer is removed from the vehicle before the countdown reaches zero, it has not been locked to the ECM. This mileage countdown allows for a road test to verify that speedometer replacement was the proper repair.
    During the 50 km (31.1 mi) countdown period (before the speedometer is locked to the ECM), the security light flashes for up to 15 seconds when battery power is restored to the electrical system, while the new gauge synchronizes to the ECM.

    What year did this come into pay?
    When I replace the speedo on my 08 Fatboy I had the speedo set to the current millage the old speedo displayed. 
  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    9 months
    Thanks everybody, but the focus is on installing a second hand speedo and what happens to the mileage on the speedo after you turn the bike on.
    Many of you have correctly said what happens when you install a new speedo, but I can’t find any real data about installing an old one, other than at some stage the old speedo will show “VINerr” indicating that the old speedo is married to a different VIN number. I just don’t know when that occurs after power on, is it immediate, does it take some time, do you have to ride it, or….
    As to why the hell I would want to do this, I unfortunately can’t say, however your comments and experiences are most welcome.

  • 408
    408
    9 months
    My bike is a 1HD dyna that I imported from the US. I went through American Vehicle Imports in Traralgon to get it complied.
    The speedo was tweaked so that the odometer read in kph rather than mph.
    The guy I dealt with there was John. I thought he was a senior technician but he may have been the owner, John Bakker.
    I'm sure he could answer your question if you give him a ring.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    9 months
    Late chime in.

    I have had several 1HD imports prepared for "compliancing" here in Perth WA. A few years back now as that market has died right off due to exchange rate etc etc.

    Anyhow, I used the SAME original "Aussie from new" 2008 Softail Custom tank mount speedo to get several bikes passed.
    Each bike showed the K's from the original Softail (66,000 from memory) as all were lower K's than that stored in the ECM.
    Not all the bikes were 2008 , from memory the speedo covered 4 model years and quite a few different models not only Softails.

    Some of the guys immediately put their MPH speedos back in (THEY did it officer NOT ME haha..)
    Others bought the combined Km/H speedo/revcounter units new after compliancing , and they showed the original Miles to K's converted numbers.

    That's my takes and hazy memories. I still have that 66,000 K's 2008 Speedo in the shed to this day
  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    3 months
    Managed to import my bike in to Perth using original speedometer with original readings! So all good, woohoo! As you can tell I am very happy.  It’s being delivered to my home this week! Now to get it over the pits and licensed and insured!
    Any tips on the insurance?
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    3 months
    Has the bike an MPH speedo at the moment ?

    If so one of these inspectors may spot that. ON the other hand they may not !

    I had a 1977 Corvette Stingray that I brought to Perth in 1995 and the Government pits inspectors did not see the mph speedo.

    So I just lived with it and sold the car to a dude from the Gold Coast in 2011. Still on MPH speedo
  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    3 months
    It’s a 5HD vin so no problem with the speedo units.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    3 months
    So it's a Km/H speedo then ?

    I am wondering what the original "problem" was then ?