Ah thanks for that, I watched one of the videos you put a link to, very interesting to hear from a dyno guy about the fp3. So the end result is that the fp3 is a crap unit. Fair enough, My fault for not researching tuners when I bought the bike back in 19, that is what the dealer said to run with.... not sure I want to cough up another 700 bucks or whatever tuners cost these days. Geez at least with carbys you could change a jet and tweak the mixture screw....