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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  2013 FLD Switchback, 103ci, high flow air cleaner, stock headers with cat deleted, nightstick slip on muffler and SE 259E cams.

  Does anyone know how to change the base maps. 

  The closest that comes up is the 103 stage 2 with air filter, pipes and 255 cams.

  In the options section you can select different cams, pipes etc. but there is no base map available.

  Can you build your own, or does someone have one.

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  Grease Monkey

  1 year ago

  I'll have a look in my files for you tomorrow mate, I may have something closer, no promises, are you going to have a crack at tuning it yourself? If so there is a program called MyTune that works really well with the SE software and data, I find it easy to use. 

  If I don't have a better one I can alter one from the cal bank to better suit your mods but it will only be a start map, it will need tuning but it will dial in pretty quickly, those mods are not extreme.

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Hi Grease Monkey 

  Yes, I’m going to have a go at tuning it myself. I went through the maps in the program one by one and I found one that was close to use as a starting map, but in the configuration it was using a “big bore”. I’m not sure what it meant by this and there was nothing in the help menu about it.

  I haven’t heard of My Tune but I’ll check it out.

  Thanks 

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Hi Grease Monkey 

  I had a look for My Tune (tunemyharley.com) and it looks like the site may have been taken down as I get a Host gateway timeout.

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Hi Grease Monkey 

  I’ve added a couple of screenshots from the tuning program. One is the closest one that pops up when my bike is connected to the computer, one is of the configuration of another one that I found, but not confident to use it because I don’t know what the “Big Bore Cylinders “ refers to, the other shows the options selected for what I have. 

  I did find another one that’s close (044SDF004.DTOs) 

  Wouldn’t it be great if the software could create a base map on the options 

  

  

  

  044SDF004.dto

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  Grease Monkey

  1 year ago

  Sorry mate I haven't got to the computer yet, at the airport dropping family off, try this link, download software, then buy licence in software I think. Get back to you as soon as I can.

  
  

  https://tunemyharley.com/

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  Grease Monkey

  1 year ago

  358SCV002 is the one I would use as a start map, I know it's for 204 cams but it will tune in, I can't find the one in the top pick, what's the cal number on that?

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Thanks Grease Monkey, that link worked. I’ll purchase the licence and take it for a data gathering ride this morning. Got to pick my back roads carefully as I’ll need long straights and no cops to use all rev ranges in all gears. I doubt I’ll get to top revs in top gear.

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  Retroman

  1 year ago

  I retuned or more correctly "reflashed" a 2014 Dyna Fatbob just last Saturday.

  
  

  A bit of a "bitsa" built by a local indy shop's mechanic for himself. V-Rod front end, twin Japper Tokico calipers, apes etc etc.

  
  

  Bike arrived on a flatbed as it was running too rough to ride 45 k's to me he reckoned.

  
  

  103 with SE259E cams and a "home made" true dual exhaust setup. There was not a direct calibration for that build,

  
  

  So I started with 358SCV002-dto. Had to toggle on the ACR in this calibration. (so watch for that !).

  
  

  Bit of tweaking and a couple of test rides , and the guy was offski !

  
  

  Pulls out my driveway and does a power slide / fishtail up the street.

  
  

  I say "fuck me!" and his truck driver says to me "he ALWAYS rides like that"...

  
  

  Bit of a chat to the guy before he leaves and it turns out he used to mechanic AND race for the Wes Cooley Kawasaki race team at Daytona Florida. Had photos of him in the lineup from the late 1980's/ Kawasaki ZXR750's ?

  
  

  He calls me the next day and leaves a voicemail message.  " It REALLY hauls arse mate" haha...

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Thanks Retroman, Grease Monkey put me on the same base map which has the ACR disabled. Through my research, the ACR is only on the M8’s.

  I took mine for a data gathering ride this morning and retuned the bike when I got home. I’ve also bought a license for the MyTune program but haven’t used it yet.

  If Grease Monkey is following this thread maybe he can clear something up.

  Is it the VE data that I programmed back into the bike that I copy and paste into My Tune, run the program then copy and paste back to the SE program then reprogram the bike.

  The data gathering run was hairy and fun, trying to find back roads with straights long enough to get the revs up, I only managed to get it up to 4500 RPM in 6th. Not game enough to use the highway, too much traffic and speed cameras, but I had a hell of a grin when I got home.

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  Grease Monkey

  1 year ago

  Yep, run it through mytune, paste it back, gather data, repeat, acrs are on some twin cams, I don't know if yours is one of them or not, the acr off can be toggled to on in the cal if you want it to be. 

  
  

  Did you see you can check the timing as well in mytune? It won't add timing but if there are knock events it will pull some for you, if you do find it alters the timing do the VE again as it will be slightly different.

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Thanks again Grease Monkey, I checked and mine doesn’t have the ACR, I’ll run it through MyTune and take it for another test run. It won’t be today, the wife’s not too good so another trip to the hospital.

  I’ll have to find some other roads shortly or the farmers will be ringing up and complaining.

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  Retroman

  1 year ago

  I reckon ALL 103 motors from around 2012/13 came with the ACR valves as stock OEM.

  
  

  Seems strange that they are "toggled off", but in quite a few calibrations that's the case so you have to check.

  
  

  Makes for a "hard start" if you don't activate them. I can hear it now I'm used to looking for it.

  
  

  My own 2008 110 cube has them so I got used to looking for them yonks ago.

  
  

  No 96's had them I seem to remember.

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  408

  1 year ago

  Here is some stuff I copied one time for road tuning.
  

  One thing they do not mention is using your gears and hills to fill some of the hard to get cells.
  

  how to ride for smart tuning.pdf

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Thanks for the input GGUser408, I’ve been trying to do just that but it’s not easy 

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  I just physically checked and mine does have the ACR. Now I’ll have to pick a new base map and start again.

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  Retroman

  1 year ago

  I am quite sure you can go into your "new" self tuned calibration and switch on the ACR.

  
  

  They call it "enable" and it's in the tuning constants. You then rename that cal as the same name already allocated.

  
  

  PS you probably know now but some of the the cal photos you posted earlier are for Touring models. 

  
  

  They have DBW , no throttle cables and wont work in your bike.

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Hi Retroman I've opened the file that I last saved to the bike and I can't find anywhere to toggle the ACR on, other than typing over the "enabled" with "is on".

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  408

  1 year ago

  I don't know for sure with the SE software but you should be good to go with ACR enabled.
  

  I use TTS. I run mine with ACR enabled. I only turn them off to do a compression test.

  I assume yours are wired in oem and not manual ones.
  

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  PappaSmurf

  1 year ago

  Hi GGUser 408,

  Thanks. Yes, mine are wired in OEM but the original base map I used (358SCV002) has them turned off. I am assuming that this then programs the ECM to turn off the ACR's.I am trying to find a way to turn them back on in the software without having to find onother Base Map and start all over again.

  We have a weeklong Memorial Run coming up on Thursday, so I have to get the bike finished before we get on The Spirt to the mainland.