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Aftermarket cam for a '22 Lowrider S 117

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  • John.R
    John.R
    1 year ago
    I'll be going the APE 485 +  support mods after doing my own research.
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    Quoting John.R on 25 Jan 2023 01:24 AM

    I'll be going the APE 485 +  support mods after doing my own research.

    Thanks John it looks like I have another cam option to consider, is the cam a bolt in only or do you need to upgrade valve springs? I can't find much info on it apart from this vid which sounds pretty mean- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kRnLofKz4
  • John.R
    John.R
    1 year ago
    Quoting John.R on 25 Jan 2023 01:24 AM

    I'll be going the APE 485 +  support mods after doing my own research.

    Quoting WideglidingNZ on 25 Jan 2023 04:36 PMedited: 25 Jan 2023 04:52 PM

    Thanks John it looks like I have another cam option to consider, is the cam a bolt in only or do you need to upgrade valve springs? I can't find much info on it apart from this vid which sounds pretty mean- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kRnLofKz4

    It's a bolt in unit. I was set on the 483 (which is basically a stronger and better version of the 480 in nearly every way, same power curves) until the 485 came out late last year. The 485 pulls harder and doesn't give away torque. Now that I've seen a heap of dyno graphs with the same setup (injectors [a must], intake, etc) im confident its the one.

    Peruse the Alpha Performance Facebook page, they post em up all the time.
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    just had a  look on FB and a 2022 fatbob 114 is making 138hp and torque with around 135 ft/lbs with a CR485 cam and a 55mm inlet manifold including 5.5 injectors very impressive 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    1 year ago
    Great numbers for the dollars, M8's respond so well to a tickle.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    1 year ago
    WG , that's the same data I posted above .

  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    bugger sorry mate I've changed it
  • Streetbob10
    Streetbob10
    1 year ago
    A mate has the Ape 485 in his breakout. The thing really romps. That’s all I know about it 
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    no the S&S cam was not on my hit list but i am getting the lifter cuffs though, the Woods cam seems to make the most torque early and it will good to carry my 140kg fat ass lol, a good cam option for a tourer too -https://university.fuelmotousa.com/dyno-charts/
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    yes it did but after chatting with Fuel moto(big tuner and performance part supplier in the USA) they recommended the 22XE cam as most of my riding is in the 2000 - 4500rpm range. The cr485 does look the goods though but I'm happy with my decision (and it seems Fuel moto haven't yet tested the cr485 so had no info). just priced the job and was quoted 23hrs of labour does that seem right for a cam and intake/injector fitted with dyno tune? seems excessive to me but it's got to be done lol
  • John.R
    John.R
    1 year ago
    23 hours, are they taking the piss? Or does that include the time the bike will be spent there overnight haha.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    Quoting John.R on 11 Feb 2023 08:49 PM

    23 hours, are they taking the piss? Or does that include the time the bike will be spent there overnight haha.

    Yeah thats way off the mark!  Someone is trying to screw him - without using Vasaline!  I would pass on this shop and look for someone else somewhere because if they are trying to screw you on the price then lord knows what else they will do; or even the quality of the work.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    1 year ago
    Being extremely generous, I would say 6 hours for cam and intake install, and 3 - 4 hours for a dyno tune.

    I can do a twin cam , cam change in around 1-2 hours not rushing .
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    1 year ago
    yeah I thought so it must be a typo surely I will get it sorted tomorrow 
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