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  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    2 years ago
    The carburetors on the Rocket III were a bit rich off idle when i test rode it. Stupid thing was when i ordered them i queried Amal as to whether to get the later 3.5 type cutaways and they replied that for the early model 3's were the required part. A bit of math means taking them from 24° to 25.5°. Absolute pig of a job.
    Bathurst carnage on the TV, not sure if that is helping. Lap 12 on slicks and it has just started to rain.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting Hoodeng on 09 Oct 2022 01:05 AM

    The carburetors on the Rocket III were a bit rich off idle when i test rode it. Stupid thing was when i ordered them i queried Amal as to whether to get the later 3.5 type cutaways and they replied that for the early model 3's were the required part. A bit of math means taking them from 24° to 25.5°. Absolute pig of a job.
    Bathurst carnage on the TV, not sure if that is helping. Lap 12 on slicks and it has just started to rain.

    Crazy stuff at Bathurst..the rain creating havoc with 3 safety cars in the first hour. 
  • diomac
    diomac
    2 years ago
    The Air Cleaner cover rocked up today at long last, and got the Diamond Back shift linkage installed. 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    2 years ago
    Quoting Hoodeng on 09 Oct 2022 01:05 AM

    The carburetors on the Rocket III were a bit rich off idle when i test rode it. Stupid thing was when i ordered them i queried Amal as to whether to get the later 3.5 type cutaways and they replied that for the early model 3's were the required part. A bit of math means taking them from 24° to 25.5°. Absolute pig of a job.
    Bathurst carnage on the TV, not sure if that is helping. Lap 12 on slicks and it has just started to rain.

    Looked at the pic, scratched my head, had no idea what I was looking at haha, love ya work 👍
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    2 years ago
    Quoting Hoodeng on 09 Oct 2022 01:05 AM

    The carburetors on the Rocket III were a bit rich off idle when i test rode it. Stupid thing was when i ordered them i queried Amal as to whether to get the later 3.5 type cutaways and they replied that for the early model 3's were the required part. A bit of math means taking them from 24° to 25.5°. Absolute pig of a job.
    Bathurst carnage on the TV, not sure if that is helping. Lap 12 on slicks and it has just started to rain.


    Haven't touched Concentric slides since I sold the rancid slag to a mate in 1990 and bought my Sportster.
    How are you shaving them back, with a mill?
    30+ years ago I did a pair for a 750 Commando by hand on a surface plate (platten glass off a photocopier, was working as a copier tech). It almost worked. Ended up replacing them with the short lived rubber mounted Concentric Mk 1.5s



  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    2 years ago
    As has been the case for millennia, manufacturers of parts don't tell you how to modify or convert a part to another purpose or rectify a situation, the response is always to replace a part as reqd. There is actually good reason for this, the replacement part will perform in the manner deemed by the manufacturer.

    Amal carburetors [Burling] were no different, they always recommended replacing a slide, jet or needle and seat, in none of their literature was there a recommendation for modification.

    Back in the seventies i don't recall anyone going back to the dealer to get a slide, jet or fuel control, everyone modified the ones fitted some did a good job, some followed myth and legend, this is where Amals became famous for being a shit carburetor.

    One of the big mistakes made with Amal slides was that the cutaway was parallel to the original machined cutaway, it wasn't, it was at a different angle, the front of the cutaway was obviously higher with a larger number, the back of the cutaway was not, it was in the same place regardless of the front height. Filing and grinding the cutaways produced a angle that was not in the carburetors design, so did not behave the same.

    Same with drilling jets, Just because someone has a lovely number and letter drill set does not mean they are accurate {the drills are accurate, just the holes effect isn't}, if you drill a jet and do a dyno test before and after you will see the effect, that is an expensive test tool but the only one that will verify your wishes.
    Speed tests can only verify one jet, even then there are other variables.

    The photo is of the slide mounted in a holding jig [that will not distort the slide] mounted in a chuck, what you can't see is the angle plate the chuck is mounted on to get the angles right in the mill.

    Boring, isn't it?
  • obisteve
    obisteve
    2 years ago
    No, not boring at all. I do regret not seeing your pic a couple of posts before the one I responded to though, it would have answered the mill question.
    New Norton or Triumph spare parts in Brisbane in the late 70's?  That was a recorded message on the phone at Morgan and Wackers "Sorry mate, we don't have one of those."  Getting information about British suppliers in the pre internet days? Buy an English bike magazine and check the classifieds, write a letter, wait a month for a reply. And quality of parts if you managed to buy them? I was still riding the bike into the late 80s, the hand lapped slides worked well enough in the 32mm Amals until they wore out and I replaced the lot with the Mk1.5 Concentrics. After fitting those along with a Boyer Brandson analog electronic ignition the bike would idle beautifully, but only on one cylinder, the pilot air passage on the other carb had not been fully drilled through.
    Still, nice to see such good engineering as your doing being done on old iron, and the care and passion for machinery working properly that motivates it.
    I seem to be one of the few ex long term owners of Commandos that doesn't regard them blissfully through the rosy glow of nostalgia. I was glad to sell that one to a mate in 1990 after 12+ years of riding it, and buy my 4 speed Evo 1200 Sportster, a much better bike in every way except vibration control. I have a standing offer from my mate to ride that Norton anytime, in 32 years I've done it once, and wanted to get off it after 5km.
  • Neale
    Neale
    2 years ago
    Quoting obisteve on 12 Oct 2022 01:34 AM

    No, not boring at all. I do regret not seeing your pic a couple of posts before the one I responded to though, it would have answered the mill question.

    New Norton or Triumph spare parts in Brisbane in the late 70's?  That was a recorded message on the phone at Morgan and Wackers "Sorry mate, we don't have one of those."  Getting information about British suppliers in the pre internet days? Buy an English bike magazine and check the classifieds, write a letter, wait a month for a reply. And quality of parts if you managed to buy them? I was still riding the bike into the late 80s, the hand lapped slides worked well enough in the 32mm Amals until they wore out and I replaced the lot with the Mk1.5 Concentrics. After fitting those along with a Boyer Brandson analog electronic ignition the bike would idle beautifully, but only on one cylinder, the pilot air passage on the other carb had not been fully drilled through.
    Still, nice to see such good engineering as your doing being done on old iron, and the care and passion for machinery working properly that motivates it.
    I seem to be one of the few ex long term owners of Commandos that doesn't regard them blissfully through the rosy glow of nostalgia. I was glad to sell that one to a mate in 1990 after 12+ years of riding it, and buy my 4 speed Evo 1200 Sportster, a much better bike in every way except vibration control. I have a standing offer from my mate to ride that Norton anytime, in 32 years I've done it once, and wanted to get off it after 5km.

    I can understand what you are saying with regards to your old bike.
    I had a 76 900ss Ducati for 8 years, when that thing ran well it was glorious to be on.
    Do I miss it, a big no.
    There’s one currently for sale on bikepoint for $100,000.
    Do I miss it, a big no.
    In keeping with this post, what did I do on my bike today? Rode it.
  • John.R
    John.R
    2 years ago
    Took the bike for a lap yesterday and got packed up to head to motogp.

    Came across a bit of carnage.
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    2 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 12 Oct 2022 07:17 AM

    Took the bike for a lap yesterday and got packed up to head to motogp.


    Came across a bit of carnage.

    Looking at the type of car and road would I be correct in assuming they ran out of talent?

    I hope nobody else was involved and only their pride and car were injured.
  • AlexSteele
    AlexSteele
    2 years ago
    I had a dyno done today on my Dyna 117ci LRS to smooth off a few bumps and pops. It was a beautiful bike to run home. 127hp/128tq and smooth.


  • fatbat
    fatbat
    2 years ago
    Quoting AlexSteele on 14 Oct 2022 10:27 AM

    I had a dyno done today on my Dyna 117ci LRS to smooth off a few bumps and pops. It was a beautiful bike to run home. 127hp/128tq and smooth.



    Hi Alex 
    You must be happy 
    Can I ask what mods have been made to you fxdls?
  • AlexSteele
    AlexSteele
    2 years ago
    Hi FatBat, it is the SE 117 kit with the 259 cams etc etc. Bassani RR3. I think the dyno reads a little optimistic on the numbers front as well, if that is what you are thinking 👍 The dyno was well worth the investment for ride ability. 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    2 years ago
    How it rides is what it's all about, numbers are only numbers, can't beat a shit eating grin.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    2 years ago
    I have the same bike with the same kit and agree with both points. That dyno is inflated but I bet the tune made it ride better and smoother throughout. They have a heap more potential in them but run really well off the bat with more performance than I need 
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    2 years ago
    Popped in some 3" fork extenders to see what it would look like...  Bloody awesome as the bike sits more choppery now.

  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    2 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 20 Oct 2022 04:49 AM

    Popped in some 3" fork extenders to see what it would look like...  Bloody awesome as the bike sits more choppery now.


  • diomac
    diomac
    2 years ago
    Milestone day today as I got the front end finished.  Legend cartridges in the front forks, Killer Custom lower fork cover and fender installed after getting the fender back from paint.  This she is coming along nicely now.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Hang on there . You boys are amazing, spesh all of you buggas. Been rain here rain rain, with darkness.
    Love reading wat ya done boys. I actually took my Bagger for a ride today not far, but  a little blast. You pricks are an inspiration tanks.
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    2 years ago
    Quoting diomac on 20 Oct 2022 08:37 AM

    Milestone day today as I got the front end finished.  Legend cartridges in the front forks, Killer Custom lower fork cover and fender installed after getting the fender back from paint.  This she is coming along nicely now.

    Bikes looking awesome well done, I just ordered a Memphis shade road warrior fairing with a 11" dark smoke screen for my soon to arrive FXLRS, I just need the flipping bike to arrive now, the ship with my bike on is waiting for a berth at the highly congested Ports of Auckland, I think I've now spent around 5k on accessories   
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