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What did you guys do on your bikes today?

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  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    1 year ago
    The workshop manual says to replace the steering head bearings at 80.000klms on a2008 FXST.
    Mine has clocked up 81,500 ks so decided to change them.
    Was quite surprised with the condition of the ones I took out, much less wear than I'd imagined.
    One of the bonuses with that year bike and model was that it had a grease nipple on the steering head.
    Not hard to put a grease nipple there, would be good if they all had it.
    Sometimes you have to laugh at the factory workshop manual.
    In this case the manual says that to remove the bearing in the lower triple tree, "Turn the triple tree upside down and heat the bearing and it will simply drop off the treeing stem.
    I would be interested if any one has had luck doing that.
    First I tried a heat gun, no dropping bearing.
    Next welded a bead around the bearing face.....nope, no movement.
    Ended up grinding the cunt off.
    But job is done and it is sunshine and lollipops for the next 80,000ks
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    good job there.... you have remined me that my Sporty must be bloody overdue @ 130,000km.  Damn yet more work to do.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    1 year ago
    I reckon just keep thumping that fucka full of new grease twice yearly from your friendly local grease gun and they may well last the "life" of the bike.
    I know of bikes that NEVER get the headstock regreased. Dynas are a fave for that because they are such a cunt to do, folks don't bother. Forks off, triple trees of blah blah...
    Softails with the grease nipples are apples of course, just a day or 2 after check for dripping excess grease...
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    I know!  My FXR needed new steering bearing for a RWC - I LOVED the notches in the old bearings as they kept the bike straight and true on the road!
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    1 year ago
    After changing the steering head bearings in my 2008 FXST with the 81 thousand ks on it. Today I had a crack at my 84 wide glide with 20 something thousand miles on it. I was a bit sus on this one cause it had sat for over 30 years and on top of that it had taken a hit at some point evidenced by the badly dented front rim (rooted) and dented back rim (salvage-able) and busted seat.
    Was expecting this one to be a walk in the park compared to the softail as it was made in less complicated days.
    Badly miss-judged the job though.
    Instead of putting the outer race of the bearings in the steering head like the softail, the shovel wide glide has whats called a steering head cup that fits into the steering head like an outer race and then the outer race fits into the steering head cup.
    I can only imagine the designers at HD had been to a mescalin, peyote, mushroom and acid party the night before they designed this set up. I have left the parts on top of the steering head in the photo in case you think I am mad.
    Anyway realised the job was not going to be finished today as you are supposed to discard the steering head cups each bearing change so had to order a pair of those. I did go to town to buy a couple of new bearings though and while in the bearing shop noticed they sold grease nipples so I bought one for $1.20. You can see in another photo that my shovel now has a grease nipple in it after drilling a hole and tapping a 6mm thread. The lower steering head bearing was more of a cunt to remove than the softail due to the external steering lock but got that fucker off too after some agricultural grinding.
  • 408
    408
    1 year ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 15 Feb 2023 09:56 AM

    After changing the steering head bearings in my 2008 FXST with the 81 thousand ks on it. Today I had a crack at my 84 wide glide with 20 something thousand miles on it. I was a bit sus on this one cause it had sat for over 30 years and on top of that it had taken a hit at some point evidenced by the badly dented front rim (rooted) and dented back rim (salvage-able) and busted seat.
    Was expecting this one to be a walk in the park compared to the softail as it was made in less complicated days.
    Badly miss-judged the job though.
    Instead of putting the outer race of the bearings in the steering head like the softail, the shovel wide glide has whats called a steering head cup that fits into the steering head like an outer race and then the outer race fits into the steering head cup.
    I can only imagine the designers at HD had been to a mescalin, peyote, mushroom and acid party the night before they designed this set up. I have left the parts on top of the steering head in the photo in case you think I am mad.
    Anyway realised the job was not going to be finished today as you are supposed to discard the steering head cups each bearing change so had to order a pair of those. I did go to town to buy a couple of new bearings though and while in the bearing shop noticed they sold grease nipples so I bought one for $1.20. You can see in another photo that my shovel now has a grease nipple in it after drilling a hole and tapping a 6mm thread. The lower steering head bearing was more of a cunt to remove than the softail due to the external steering lock but got that fucker off too after some agricultural grinding.


    You got any neighbours with horses ?
    Some hoof nippers might move El Cunto bearing.
  • Stewy
    Stewy
    1 year ago
    Yes there is a special tool to remove and replace these bearings,,
    AND. It's not just a case of replacing the bearings,,, you need to have the right spacer,,, there is a set of three spacers that you get so as the bearings wear , you put a shorter  spacer in.. you will not know which spacer you have in there now,,, 
    I did this job a few years ago,, what a nightmare,,, you cannot buy the spacer kits any more,,, although I did find out the lengths of them,, I think they are about 12 thou difference in length between each one,, now you have to find a machinist to make them for you,,,, although you only need the longest one as you are replacing the bearings.i had 2 made and were both different lengths,,, in the end I used the one that was too long and spun it in the lathe and used a file to get it the perfect length,,, hahahaha you don't know what you have got yourself in for,,, read up about changing these bearings and find out the correct length of the spacer for new bearings.. I even bought the correct tools for removing and replacing the cones,,, very expensive for a one off,,. It's not hard,,, but you have to have the right spacer,, call if I can be of assistance,,, good luck...
  • Stewy
    Stewy
    1 year ago
    Buy the way,, bearings are the same as early model Holden front axle and most trailers inner bearing
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    1 year ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 15 Feb 2023 09:56 AM

    After changing the steering head bearings in my 2008 FXST with the 81 thousand ks on it. Today I had a crack at my 84 wide glide with 20 something thousand miles on it. I was a bit sus on this one cause it had sat for over 30 years and on top of that it had taken a hit at some point evidenced by the badly dented front rim (rooted) and dented back rim (salvage-able) and busted seat.
    Was expecting this one to be a walk in the park compared to the softail as it was made in less complicated days.
    Badly miss-judged the job though.
    Instead of putting the outer race of the bearings in the steering head like the softail, the shovel wide glide has whats called a steering head cup that fits into the steering head like an outer race and then the outer race fits into the steering head cup.
    I can only imagine the designers at HD had been to a mescalin, peyote, mushroom and acid party the night before they designed this set up. I have left the parts on top of the steering head in the photo in case you think I am mad.
    Anyway realised the job was not going to be finished today as you are supposed to discard the steering head cups each bearing change so had to order a pair of those. I did go to town to buy a couple of new bearings though and while in the bearing shop noticed they sold grease nipples so I bought one for $1.20. You can see in another photo that my shovel now has a grease nipple in it after drilling a hole and tapping a 6mm thread. The lower steering head bearing was more of a cunt to remove than the softail due to the external steering lock but got that fucker off too after some agricultural grinding.

    Quoting 408 on 15 Feb 2023 11:12 AMedited: 15 Feb 2023 11:12 AM


    You got any neighbours with horses ?
    Some hoof nippers might move El Cunto bearing.

    GG408, I do actually have neighbours with horses, but have already got el cuntos off.
    Stewy, not sure where you are coming from but glad I dont have you doing the job for me with due respect.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    1 year ago
    Did Nelson Bay to Sunny Coast today 911klm with the rain only just behind us all the way home...boring run straight up the highway. Was going to stop at Nabiac to have a led stretch and walk around the bike museum but wisely chose to outrun the weather. Tire change next week and getting ready for a dirt run in March over a weekend. 
  • Pedro123
    Pedro123
    1 year ago
    The netral indicator switch on the Sporty just shit itself. Got one online today.
    Looking at the manual It says:- remove exhaust, remove cover, remove drive belt, remove drive sprocket, remove switch then replace in reverse order. Adjust belt and test switch.
    What do you reckon the labour on that would be, for a $26 switch.
    Glad I own a set of spanners!
  • Streetbob10
    Streetbob10
    1 year ago
    Well you said you got spanners so sounds like you doing it so no need to worry about labour. Couple hours you should be sorted 
  • John.R
    John.R
    1 year ago
    Fighting with this FXDX suspension ever step of the way... not stoked on it.

  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    HOLY CHIT.... Thats the exact issue I have on the Sporty this week.  Took the forks off to polish the lower legs as the OEM clearcoat was cactus and the weather seals were all rusted out as well.  Tried to remove those bloody bolts and they are now both fucked and will need to be drilled out just like you are doing.  I gave up as i wanted to ride the bike so put it all back together for a winter project if i get motivated.

    I presume you got the heads drilled off okay and then popped the forks apart with no issues.  How was it removing the bolt remains from the smaller tube?
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    Quoting Pedro123 on 16 Feb 2023 12:50 AM

    The netral indicator switch on the Sporty just shit itself. Got one online today.
    Looking at the manual It says:- remove exhaust, remove cover, remove drive belt, remove drive sprocket, remove switch then replace in reverse order. Adjust belt and test switch.
    What do you reckon the labour on that would be, for a $26 switch.
    Glad I own a set of spanners!

    Yeah, what a chit of a place to stick that damn switch!  
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    1 year ago
    Who started this fuckin thread ?  It made me feel a bit lazy so I changed the engine oil today. (10W-50 synthetic Penrite ) . I keep a record of all that in the manual and it came to my attention that I am a lazy bastard and the records I keep are a bit dubious. 
    I will post a pic
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    1 year ago
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    I just do it every 5000km so I never forget.... them miles come up quick enough.

  • John.R
    John.R
    1 year ago
    Quoting tussuck on 16 Feb 2023 06:14 AM

    HOLY CHIT.... Thats the exact issue I have on the Sporty this week.  Took the forks off to polish the lower legs as the OEM clearcoat was cactus and the weather seals were all rusted out as well.  Tried to remove those bloody bolts and they are now both fucked and will need to be drilled out just like you are doing.  I gave up as i wanted to ride the bike so put it all back together for a winter project if i get motivated.


    I presume you got the heads drilled off okay and then popped the forks apart with no issues.  How was it removing the bolt remains from the smaller tube?

    My issue was compounded due to it being the cartridge fork where the actual cartridge spins WITHIN the damper tube. Normal forks can spin the damper tube but if you use impact it'll split it. Mine both the damper AND the cartridge were spinning. 
    Did exactly the same to the other fork leg today, got both off with nil issue. No dramas getting the stud outta the fork, just pinched it in copper jaws on the vice and applied a touch of heat to the stuff and they backed out easily.

    Before assembling again I'll be drilling into the cartridge a tiny bit and installing grub screws through the rod to the cartridge. 
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    1 year ago
    Cheers.  I will do the Sporty next week as rusty oil seals are never a long term proposition.  In the old days when I did this on the FXR I would shove a wooden broom handle down the tube from the top and that locked in the damper tube - worked a treat.  

    But in the case of the Sporty the bolts are locked in solid and not moving at all.
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