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  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Hey Boys.
    A fairly basic issue, but can't for the life of me work it out.
    So looking for a ride today, long ride. Getting Roadglide off it's jackup throne, the alarm (2012 model) went off and went off and off. Figured immediately fob battery  was fucked and scrambling around looking for 2032 battery, waiting for neighbours to storm garage with pitchforks. Eventually stuck one in fob and shut the fuckka up, least that still works. Then thought better kick her in the guts, ha, no such luck. Checked fuses, checked battery (11.8 volts) checked wiring to and from battery. 
    What I'm asking is there a procedure that doesnot allow you to start bike after alarm going off for a while? Never had this issue before in all 10 years of owning her. Looking in manual, doesn't tell me much, as yet. There are no codes coming up at all, except fuel says lo for once?
    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I don't take her to dealers, so will nut it out eventually.
    thanks for anything thrown my way.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    2 years ago
    11.8 volts is not enough.
    Charge battery up, try again.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Always on battery tender, but maybe the alarm drained her.But even at 11.8 volts didna get the clicking, but an a slight undertone muffled noise, so you maybe right. Flat battery is ok, little lame of me posting for help though --as non starter. 
    Check in morn, thanks for the obvious FC. I forget about the electronic needs on later model motorcycles or a blond moment.
  • flstc08
    flstc08
    2 years ago
    Quoting Baloffski on 25 Mar 2022 12:21 PM

    Always on battery tender, but maybe the alarm drained her.But even at 11.8 volts didna get the clicking, but an a slight undertone muffled noise, so you maybe right. Flat battery is ok, little lame of me posting for help though --as non starter. 

    Check in morn, thanks for the obvious FC. I forget about the electronic needs on later model motorcycles or a blond moment.

    G'day,can you check the battery tender. I used a H.D. one constantly for about 13 years until one day it stopped working. Unable to be fixed,so I now use a cheap solar charger during the day, and an Aldi charger when I'm not going to ride for a while. It goes onto trickle and works a treat. Cheaper than the H.D. one.
    p.s. Is the battery the original one ?
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Quoting Baloffski on 25 Mar 2022 12:21 PM

    Always on battery tender, but maybe the alarm drained her.But even at 11.8 volts didna get the clicking, but an a slight undertone muffled noise, so you maybe right. Flat battery is ok, little lame of me posting for help though --as non starter. 

    Check in morn, thanks for the obvious FC. I forget about the electronic needs on later model motorcycles or a blond moment.

    Quoting flstc08 on 25 Mar 2022 08:35 PMedited: 25 Mar 2022 08:37 PM

    G'day,can you check the battery tender. I used a H.D. one constantly for about 13 years until one day it stopped working. Unable to be fixed,so I now use a cheap solar charger during the day, and an Aldi charger when I'm not going to ride for a while. It goes onto trickle and works a treat. Cheaper than the H.D. one.

    p.s. Is the battery the original one ?

    Battery isn't original, but probably 5 years old, charged up on tender non-Harley (C-tek) and has come up 12.8 volts, with still no starting.
    Solar sounds good, I like that idea.Have brand new HD battery tender, got years ago, and brought that out of box last night, don't like it.
    Back to the drawing board.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    2 years ago
    Even at 12.8 volts the battery can still be buggered.  Check the voltage on it when cranking or just replace as they are cheap enough nowadays.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Quoting flstc08 on 25 Mar 2022 11:52 PM

    G'day,

    have a look at 
    It explains how to bring up codes on the speedo display.

    Ha.
    Now in garage on my garage screaming e laptop, and removed battery. Is a AGM 405 Milwaukee May and 1 and 5 removed. Now I remember, original lasted 3 years, this HD second original is coming up to 7 years. On charger and monitoring, but have a feeling there is more to this.Thanks for direction flstc as woulda been ages trying to locate that in manual.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    2 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Mar 2022 11:26 PM

    Even at 12.8 volts the battery can still be buggered.  Check the voltage on it when cranking or just replace as they are cheap enough nowadays.

    yep,no load voltage may read 12.5 and above,but with a load test the voltage may dissapear in a flash
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Not good at splaining self. Say battery is good, tried an old good alternate battery. But still there is no noise like when you turn on ignition or hit the run switch, you know is  like the injectors getting primed type noise. c told ya cant explain.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    2 years ago
    could be a fuse blown,quick will see if there ok,i think most have a fuse for the ignition/fuel pump.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Quoting brucefxdl on 26 Mar 2022 06:40 AM

    could be a fuse blown,quick will see if there ok,i think most have a fuse for the ignition/fuel pump.

    B took out every single fuse and checked at least 2 or 3 times.
    But I thinnk ya getting hot, the fuel pump/ignich.. hmm.not happening, wats the common link.

  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    2 years ago
    loss of power in a circuit i feel,crook connection may be ?when you turn on the ignition ,do any dash lights come on...oil ect ?those lights wont take much current to run,even on a low battery they might glow a bit.....maybe.

  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    2 years ago
    when you checked the battrey voltage,i guess it was across the battery terminals,have you tried checking voltage from positive and an earth on the frame , away from the battery ?
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Sheesh, can't work this one out yet. 
    In between jackhammering tiles stuck with cryptonite cement inside and jocking out to garage I'M buggered. All lights are on,  bright and no dimming when hitting starter, with no whirley noise of fuel pump when ignition turned on.
    This has occured since the alarm went off due to key fob battery being flat when I went to move her. Maybe the pesky 9 volt battery is cactus, as I've hooked up another 12 volt gel battery have had on hand for emergency starts such as now, so 12 volt covered.But has the friggin alarm instigated the system to shut down, such as pump ignish? I tried to enter pin as in manuals but can't even do that. It does not react at all.Looks like my reading topic tonight. cheers
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    2 years ago
    jack hammer tiles/cement mmmm
    has your switch's got cement dust in it from your demo? kill switch, blinkers, could also be why you cant bring up or enter codes
    have you any limits that are failing "in gear" "clutch not in" "stand down"
  • DocGreen
    DocGreen
    2 years ago
    Mick, long shot but sounds like the security system isn't playing ball. Have your fob present, turn the ignition on and remove the large P&A fuse under the left hand cover, then turn ignition off again and disconnect the battery for a couple of minutes.
     Refit the P&A fuse and then Reconnect the battery and see if she starts - good luck mate.

    DocGreen
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    2 years ago
    How did you go Balof? Did Doc's suggestion bare fruit?
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    2 years ago
    Tried Doc's method, with all variations, and standing on one leg. No good, but thought onto a winner. No noise of fuel pump or any life that indicates may be ready to kick over.The indicator lights all function ok, as tried to look at pin, not able to bring it up for some reason. With the ignition on ready to start the ABS indicator light is on, but I think that was normal.thanks boys.perserverance.

  • DocGreen
    DocGreen
    2 years ago
    bugger, have you tried turning the ignition switch on and immediately pressing both indicators to see if you can enter the pin? maybe give that a go mate

    DocGreen
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