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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 15 Feb 2022 03:33 AM

    That’s funny. I heard the pool guy tested positive. 

    Lol good luck to him
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    2 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Feb 2022 02:35 AM

    So did RAT test today....negative! How does that wk, live together, sleep in the same bed, brekky, lunch and dinner together and she is positive and i am not. Perhaps its that mighty QLD XXXX in my system...🤔.

    Some people just aren't prone to getting it, irrespective of whether they're vaccinated or not. Having said that it might still take a couple of days so don't get too confident just yet.

    I think rapid tests are iffy at best, I've had three show positive which screwed up shifts at work. PCR tests showed negative and a recent blood test showed that I haven't had it at all, despite some mild symptoms a couple of times.
  • evo94
    evo94
    2 years ago
    RAT complete waste of time...
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting evo94 on 16 Feb 2022 02:23 AM

    RAT complete waste of time...

    They are an indicative test only. Saw this today from ABS......The statistics, released by the ABS on Tuesday, showed there were underlying health issues involved in 92 per cent of the 2639 deaths attributed to Covid-19 between March 2020 and January 31 this year. The underlying conditions ranged from pneumonia and kidney infection to chronic heart illnesses.

    During the same period, 100,000 Australians died from cancer, 32,000 from heart disease, 30,000 from Alzheimers and dementia, and 10,000 from diabetes. The Covid-19 deaths, meanwhile, made up only one per cent of all fatalities nationwide.



  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    2 years ago
    Lucky we did all we could to keep the death rate from covid so low, India, Spain, Italy to name a few did not fair so well, the beautiful thing about statistics is they can appear to support many opposing views if no thought as to the why of it is applied.
  • Choco
    Choco
    2 years ago
    Well finally talked to someone who had covid and asked how he felt. Where I work we have a fuel truck come on site to fuel up the heavy machinery I operate. The driver of the fuel truck has just started back at work after getting over covid. Now let me say this person is very fit he does kite sailing,  paddle boarding, extreme mountain bike riding ( he paid over $6000 for his last mountain bike ) so as you can see he takes his sports seriously and as I said is very fit. Ok back to his round with covid when I asked him how it affected him I was shocked. He told me it was one of the worst things he suffered, major headaches, shortness of breath and the worse for him no energy he couldn't get out of bed for 5 days even when he did it was only for a very short time. Btw his wife was the one that passed it on to him and she didn't fair much better than him. One thing he did tell me don't trust the RAT test it gives false results  so if you think you have covid get the proper test done sorry I forgot the name of it. Ok sorry for the long post I just wanted to give some background info on this person and yes almost forgot this person and his wife are both  double vaxxed  cheers.
  • wadewilson
    wadewilson
    2 years ago
    Quoting evo94 on 16 Feb 2022 02:23 AM

    RAT complete waste of time...

    Quoting paulybronco on 16 Feb 2022 03:43 AM

    They are an indicative test only. Saw this today from ABS......The statistics, released by the ABS on Tuesday, showed there were underlying health issues involved in 92 per cent of the 2639 deaths attributed to Covid-19 between March 2020 and January 31 this year. The underlying conditions ranged from pneumonia and kidney infection to chronic heart illnesses.


    During the same period, 100,000 Australians died from cancer, 32,000 from heart disease, 30,000 from Alzheimers and dementia, and 10,000 from diabetes. The Covid-19 deaths, meanwhile, made up only one per cent of all fatalities nationwide.



    PB,

    Would be interested to see where those figures came from. This is a link to the Aus Govt statistics on cancer deaths for roughly that same period and they show another figure which is considerably lower than the figure you have.  https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/impacted-cancer/what-cancer/cancer-australia-statistics

    Following is also from the ABS web site with the Provisional Mortality rates for heart disease. While not the exact same period as your statistics it does have quite a wide discrepancy in the numbers.

    "Ischaemic heart disease is the leading cause of death in Australia. The category includes acute conditions such as myocardial infarction and chronic conditions such as coronary atherosclerosis.

        11,636 deaths occurred from ischaemic heart disease between January and October 2021

        This is 1,163 deaths (9.1%) below the 2015-19 average, but remains 1.5% above the 11,462 deaths at the same point in 2020.
        Deaths due to ischaemic heart disease have been decreasing over time."

    If we extrapolate this to a full 12 month period it amounts to approximately 14000 deaths per year from heart disease.

    Not saying you are wrong with your statistics rather I would like to see where they came from and try to explain why there is such a wide discrepancy in them.

    Lies, True Lies and statistics. As GM has said statistics can be used in any number of ways depending on your point of view.
  • wadewilson
    wadewilson
    2 years ago
    This is also a good reference to the total Mortality Rates from Covid in Australia. https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-2

    If you do not have the time to read the complete article here are the key statistics.

    "Key Statistics

        1,671 deaths due to COVID-19 that occurred by 31 October 2021 have been registered by 30 November and received by the ABS. The ABS expects to receive further registrations for this period from the jurisdictional Registries of Births, Deaths and Marriages.

        The 1,671 deaths include 16 that were suspected as being due to COVID-19 with the virus not confirmed in a laboratory.

        Most COVID-19 deaths had acute respiratory symptoms such as viral pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome listed as a consequence of the virus.

        71.2% of people who died from COVID-19 had pre-existing chronic conditions certified on the death certificate.

        Chronic heart diseases were the most common pre-existing chronic condition for those who died from COVID-19."
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting evo94 on 16 Feb 2022 02:23 AM

    RAT complete waste of time...

    Quoting paulybronco on 16 Feb 2022 03:43 AM

    They are an indicative test only. Saw this today from ABS......The statistics, released by the ABS on Tuesday, showed there were underlying health issues involved in 92 per cent of the 2639 deaths attributed to Covid-19 between March 2020 and January 31 this year. The underlying conditions ranged from pneumonia and kidney infection to chronic heart illnesses.


    During the same period, 100,000 Australians died from cancer, 32,000 from heart disease, 30,000 from Alzheimers and dementia, and 10,000 from diabetes. The Covid-19 deaths, meanwhile, made up only one per cent of all fatalities nationwide.



    Quoting wadewilson on 16 Feb 2022 10:48 PM

    PB,

    Would be interested to see where those figures came from. This is a link to the Aus Govt statistics on cancer deaths for roughly that same period and they show another figure which is considerably lower than the figure you have.  https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/impacted-cancer/what-cancer/cancer-australia-statistics

    Following is also from the ABS web site with the Provisional Mortality rates for heart disease. While not the exact same period as your statistics it does have quite a wide discrepancy in the numbers.

    "Ischaemic heart disease is the leading cause of death in Australia. The category includes acute conditions such as myocardial infarction and chronic conditions such as coronary atherosclerosis.

        11,636 deaths occurred from ischaemic heart disease between January and October 2021

        This is 1,163 deaths (9.1%) below the 2015-19 average, but remains 1.5% above the 11,462 deaths at the same point in 2020.
        Deaths due to ischaemic heart disease have been decreasing over time."

    If we extrapolate this to a full 12 month period it amounts to approximately 14000 deaths per year from heart disease.

    Not saying you are wrong with your statistics rather I would like to see where they came from and try to explain why there is such a wide discrepancy in them.

    Lies, True Lies and statistics. As GM has said statistics can be used in any number of ways depending on your point of view.

    Hey Wade they were a direct copy of an article in news.com.au from the day i posted. If i can find the link i will attach.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting Choco on 16 Feb 2022 10:47 PMedited: 17 Feb 2022 05:15 AM

    Well finally talked to someone who had covid and asked how he felt. Where I work we have a fuel truck come on site to fuel up the heavy machinery I operate. The driver of the fuel truck has just started back at work after getting over covid. Now let me say this person is very fit he does kite sailing,  paddle boarding, extreme mountain bike riding ( he paid over $6000 for his last mountain bike ) so as you can see he takes his sports seriously and as I said is very fit. Ok back to his round with covid when I asked him how it affected him I was shocked. He told me it was one of the worst things he suffered, major headaches, shortness of breath and the worse for him no energy he couldn't get out of bed for 5 days even when he did it was only for a very short time. Btw his wife was the one that passed it on to him and she didn't fair much better than him. One thing he did tell me don't trust the RAT test it gives false results  so if you think you have covid get the proper test done sorry I forgot the name of it. Ok sorry for the long post I just wanted to give some background info on this person and yes almost forgot this person and his wife are both  double vaxxed  cheers.

    My mate is VERY sick with it and again a fit strong guy before,  yet my Mrs currently has it and tiny in stature, has a runny nose and feels a bit fatigued. My Mrs is vaxed my mate isn't.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    2 years ago
    My Son married a wog and all her family 6 months back they had a party and one house hold got covid, every body got it and real crook. The mum the sickest person before covid hit, got nothing, same house bed shit house, kitchen table, nothing. Its a very strange this thing 

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2022 09:47 AM

    My Son married a wog and all her family 6 months back they had a party and one house hold got covid, every body got it and real crook. The mum the sickest person before covid hit, got nothing, same house bed shit house, kitchen table, nothing. Its a very strange this thing 


    Thinking just live our lives, what's left of it!
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    2 years ago
    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2022 09:47 AM

    My Son married a wog and all her family 6 months back they had a party and one house hold got covid, every body got it and real crook. The mum the sickest person before covid hit, got nothing, same house bed shit house, kitchen table, nothing. Its a very strange this thing 


    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Feb 2022 09:53 AM

    Thinking just live our lives, what's left of it!

    Then the island, hey brother 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2022 09:47 AM

    My Son married a wog and all her family 6 months back they had a party and one house hold got covid, every body got it and real crook. The mum the sickest person before covid hit, got nothing, same house bed shit house, kitchen table, nothing. Its a very strange this thing 


    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Feb 2022 09:53 AM

    Thinking just live our lives, what's left of it!

    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2022 09:55 AM

    Then the island, hey brother 

    If only i could afford it!!!
  • evo94
    evo94
    2 years ago
    Quoting Choco on 16 Feb 2022 10:47 PMedited: 17 Feb 2022 05:15 AM

    Well finally talked to someone who had covid and asked how he felt. Where I work we have a fuel truck come on site to fuel up the heavy machinery I operate. The driver of the fuel truck has just started back at work after getting over covid. Now let me say this person is very fit he does kite sailing,  paddle boarding, extreme mountain bike riding ( he paid over $6000 for his last mountain bike ) so as you can see he takes his sports seriously and as I said is very fit. Ok back to his round with covid when I asked him how it affected him I was shocked. He told me it was one of the worst things he suffered, major headaches, shortness of breath and the worse for him no energy he couldn't get out of bed for 5 days even when he did it was only for a very short time. Btw his wife was the one that passed it on to him and she didn't fair much better than him. One thing he did tell me don't trust the RAT test it gives false results  so if you think you have covid get the proper test done sorry I forgot the name of it. Ok sorry for the long post I just wanted to give some background info on this person and yes almost forgot this person and his wife are both  double vaxxed  cheers.

    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Feb 2022 02:34 AM

    My mate is VERY sick with it and again a fit strong guy before,  yet my Mrs currently has it and tiny in stature, has a runny nose and feels a bit fatigued. My Mrs is vaxed my mate isn't.

    as i mentioned while back.....both me n missus had it bad over Xmas / NY ....took me about 6 weeks to get rid of it whereas missus recovered a couple of weeks earlier....thing is, im vaxed, missus isnt....go figure....
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    So unvaxed Clive has been rushed to hospital with Covid-19 symptoms. He suffers from asthma as well.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    2 years ago
    Clive Palmer?  God I hope so..... that fat tub of lard has f'd up so much.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    2 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 24 Feb 2022 05:57 AMedited: 24 Feb 2022 05:59 AM

    Clive Palmer?  God I hope so..... that fat tub of lard has f'd up so much.


    Think you should say "So many"
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