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The start of no deals...

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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 months
    Seems as though the age of "Doing a deal" has been stumped by Mercedes. They are moving to a fixed price take it or fuck off approach to discounting. Mark my words this is the start of a snowball in the industry in Australia. New car salesman are going to be a dying breed, they will employ order takers not sales people. 
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    7 months
    I thought Honda (as in cars, not motorcycles) was already doing that too. And less dealerships too 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 months
    Quoting fatbat on 18 Oct 2021 09:28 AM

    I thought Honda (as in cars, not motorcycles) was already doing that too. And less dealerships too 

    Yep
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    7 months
    And what's the problem?
    Car/bike salesman are never the top of the list for favourite people - so many slimes, lying through their teeth types.
    Don't need all this 'third world country' haggling shit games. Have a fixed price so each party knows where they stand, if you don't like the price you go to a competitor - the market will adjust to what is needed.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 months
    Quoting Wideglider on 18 Oct 2021 10:30 AMedited: 18 Oct 2021 10:31 AM

    And what's the problem?

    Car/bike salesman are never the top of the list for favourite people - so many slimes, lying through their teeth types.
    Don't need all this 'third world country' haggling shit games. Have a fixed price so each party knows where they stand, if you don't like the price you go to a competitor - the market will adjust to what is needed.

    So you go to buy a Harley/Honda/Hyundia and because Vespa are doing deals you end up with one? Is that your point...Your missing the point....their will be a momentary dip in sales as people like yourself hold out then you will be joining the que to buy. 
  • robnicko
    robnicko
    7 months
    Quoting paulybronco on 18 Oct 2021 09:21 AM

    Seems as though the age of "Doing a deal" has been stumped by Mercedes. They are moving to a fixed price take it or fuck off approach to discounting. Mark my words this is the start of a snowball in the industry in Australia. New car salesman are going to be a dying breed, they will employ order takers not sales people. 

    the new click & collect.....
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    7 months
    Well i think at the moment with this covid BS going on, new vehicles sell themselves as there is huge demand for them, I know a lot of motobikes and cars are sold before they even get into the country (this is in NZ though)
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    7 months
    I sold cars for 35 years and I saw this coming 10 years ago. Glad I’m not working anymore. The industry was mostly good to me but it was hard work,not physically but mentally. Harder than it would seem. My adage in the end was ,some people are dickheads.For the most part people are just looking out for themselves. That is life. My recent experience buying a new Heritage Classic was a real eye opener. I got one of those deals I used to think was bullshit. Wasn’t though. 
  • steelo
    steelo
    7 months
    Thanks for the insight d. Was it a good deal or a bad deal on the heritage?  Post some pics. 
  • OlChesnut
    OlChesnut
    7 months
    Auto makers are taking advantage of the high demand for vehicles at present.  This is an unusual market created by low supply due to Covid.  It won't last forever.  Although hard to say when things will return to normal, one, two years who knows.  No auto maker or dealer wants to reduce prices on things, the market motivates them to do it.
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    7 months
    Quoting steelo on 18 Oct 2021 10:48 PM

    Thanks for the insight d. Was it a good deal or a bad deal on the heritage?  Post some pics. 

    It was the deal of the century. Peter stevens changeover price $16250. Morgan and Wacker $10000. Will post pics when I get a minute. Traded a 2011 Softail deluxe with 46000 k,s. Gave me $18000 They sold it inside a week and made plenty on it. Good on them. Cheers Daffy 
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    7 months
    Quoting steelo on 18 Oct 2021 10:48 PM

    Thanks for the insight d. Was it a good deal or a bad deal on the heritage?  Post some pics. 

    Quoting Daffy on 19 Oct 2021 07:27 AM

    It was the deal of the century. Peter stevens changeover price $16250. Morgan and Wacker $10000. Will post pics when I get a minute. Traded a 2011 Softail deluxe with 46000 k,s. Gave me $18000 They sold it inside a week and made plenty on it. Good on them. Cheers Daffy 

    Jeezus,
    reminds me.
    Bought customed Road Glide from Peter Stevens 10 years ago. trade in was my 6 year old Fatboy with a whole lotta shit  39K kms.- $15,500
    Change over was $19000
    Wished we had Morgan and wacker in Vic. And another one -Wished had that fatty now. 
    Road Glide is going to go down the road shortly as just cant get to appreciate the Touring qualities she has, locked down/up, unfortunately. Dynamite here we come.
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    7 months
    Quoting steelo on 18 Oct 2021 10:48 PM

    Thanks for the insight d. Was it a good deal or a bad deal on the heritage?  Post some pics. 

    Quoting Daffy on 19 Oct 2021 07:27 AM

    It was the deal of the century. Peter stevens changeover price $16250. Morgan and Wacker $10000. Will post pics when I get a minute. Traded a 2011 Softail deluxe with 46000 k,s. Gave me $18000 They sold it inside a week and made plenty on it. Good on them. Cheers Daffy 

    Quoting Baloffski on 19 Oct 2021 07:55 AM

    Jeezus,

    reminds me.
    Bought customed Road Glide from Peter Stevens 10 years ago. trade in was my 6 year old Fatboy with a whole lotta shit  39K kms.- $15,500
    Change over was $19000
    Wished we had Morgan and wacker in Vic. And another one -Wished had that fatty now. 
    Road Glide is going to go down the road shortly as just cant get to appreciate the Touring qualities she has, locked down/up, unfortunately. Dynamite here we come.

    I bought it from Morgan and Wacker Melbourne 
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    7 months
    Hang on when were M  and W in Melbourne? bought Harleys from David Reedie at Brunswick, Peter Stevens Melb No other dealer that I knew of? Interested.


  • Daffy
    Daffy
    7 months
    Quoting Baloffski on 19 Oct 2021 08:19 AM

    Hang on when were M  and W in Melbourne? bought Harleys from David Reedie at Brunswick, Peter Stevens Melb No other dealer that I knew of? Interested.



    They are in Epping
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 months
    Quoting steelo on 18 Oct 2021 10:48 PM

    Thanks for the insight d. Was it a good deal or a bad deal on the heritage?  Post some pics. 

    Quoting Daffy on 19 Oct 2021 07:27 AM

    It was the deal of the century. Peter stevens changeover price $16250. Morgan and Wacker $10000. Will post pics when I get a minute. Traded a 2011 Softail deluxe with 46000 k,s. Gave me $18000 They sold it inside a week and made plenty on it. Good on them. Cheers Daffy 

    Quoting Baloffski on 19 Oct 2021 07:55 AM

    Jeezus,

    reminds me.
    Bought customed Road Glide from Peter Stevens 10 years ago. trade in was my 6 year old Fatboy with a whole lotta shit  39K kms.- $15,500
    Change over was $19000
    Wished we had Morgan and wacker in Vic. And another one -Wished had that fatty now. 
    Road Glide is going to go down the road shortly as just cant get to appreciate the Touring qualities she has, locked down/up, unfortunately. Dynamite here we come.

    Move to Qld....
  • evo94
    evo94
    7 months
    nooo way...we'r chockers already....fkg place is a madhouse !
  • Rivo
    Rivo
    6 months
    Thailand has this same arrangement with most car and motorcycle dealers, for example every dealer will have the same price for an Isuzu D-Max, no matter where in the country.

    Where you can get a better dealer is through free accessories, which can add up to tidy sum.

    Hard to wrap your head around if you are not used to this method, back in Australia most people shop around for a better deal, which can be many thousands of $

    Looks like change is coming

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 months
    Quoting Rivo on 22 Oct 2021 09:58 AM

    Thailand has this same arrangement with most car and motorcycle dealers, for example every dealer will have the same price for an Isuzu D-Max, no matter where in the country.


    Where you can get a better dealer is through free accessories, which can add up to tidy sum.

    Hard to wrap your head around if you are not used to this method, back in Australia most people shop around for a better deal, which can be many thousands of $

    Looks like change is coming

    Hey look there could well be some advantages but as an ex dealer principal can someone point them out to me...please?
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 months
    Pros and cons to everything. 

    Lots of buyers like certainty and transparency.  When you go on a website for almost anything, or walk into a supermarket, the price is there for everyone to see and know, and one person doesn’t get a better deal than another.

    Certainty and transparency should hopefully also apply to whatever extras, fees and costs which are advertised differently in different states/territories and sometimes hidden by some
    dealers which hasn’t endeared the industry to some 
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