Afghanistan

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  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    3 years ago
    What a shit show!
    11th century mentality running the show.
    China still has its embassy up and running in Kabul, they better be paying attention or they will be the next nation to fall down the Afghan rabbit hole.
  • Hound_Dog
    Hound_Dog
    3 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 17 Aug 2021 01:36 AM

    What a shit show!

    11th century mentality running the show.
    China still has its embassy up and running in Kabul, they better be paying attention or they will be the next nation to fall down the Afghan rabbit hole.

    This is part of the plan. The US has now left a well armed, well trained force on the ground who has made it very clear they will not tolerate the mistreatment of Muslims (even though they do so themselves) The Uighers in China are already on their radar and the chinese are deathly scared of civil unrest there. They are desperately trying to buy over the Taliban with money and recognition but the Taliban will take their money and use it against them. I look fwd to seeing the fucking CCP feel the heat of an insurgency soon.
  • B0nes
    B0nes
    3 years ago
    Taliban Vs China. This will be interesting

  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    Be interesting to see the Chinese complaining of and fighting against human rights violations. 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    3 years ago
    Interesting times ahead, feel for the poor buggas that want to live in the 21st century, seen the footage of people falling off that yank transport, apart from the obvious lack of common sense it brings home the desperation they must be feeling.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    3 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 18 Aug 2021 12:02 AM

    Interesting times ahead, feel for the poor buggas that want to live in the 21st century, seen the footage of people falling off that yank transport, apart from the obvious lack of common sense it brings home the desperation they must be feeling.

    Just watched the SBS footage of the Taliban address to the world, looking into his eyes 
    Get the people out in the next few days and bomb the cunts everyone 
    The end 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 18 Aug 2021 12:02 AM

    Interesting times ahead, feel for the poor buggas that want to live in the 21st century, seen the footage of people falling off that yank transport, apart from the obvious lack of common sense it brings home the desperation they must be feeling.

    Quoting bloodog on 18 Aug 2021 08:47 AM

    Just watched the SBS footage of the Taliban address to the world, looking into his eyes 

    Get the people out in the next few days and bomb the cunts everyone 
    The end 

    Ha Ha Trumpy is looking for a foreign policy advisor for his return.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    3 years ago
    hiroshima nagasaki ......
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    3 years ago
    came across this
    interesting reading
    attributed to Mick Spring CSM, who spent 39 years in the Australian Army retiring in December 2017, at the rank of Warrant Officer Class One.

    'Whilst the unfolding events are difficult for the majority of the Afghan nation, during my deployment in 2010, we began to see the writing on the wall. Our rotations mission was to mentor our Afghan partners and to provide them with the tools necessary to rebel the Taliban forces once we were gone. During my time, there were approximately 350 thousand Afghan security force members within the country and approximately 150 thousand Taliban fighters, both in Afghan, but the majority being in Pakistan. The Pakistan government harboured them and they came and went as they pleased through the Hindu Kush. Small forward operating bases, mainly manned by the US forces monitored this. They were careful not to leave a large footprint and only harassed the FOB's, then fled back to Pakistan.
    By way of history, Afghanistan is made up of about 16 major tribes. The major tribe being Pashtun, but within that tribe, there are about 350 to 400 tribes or clans. They are the ruling tribe in Afghanistan and the major Taliban stronghold.
    Given that fact, you can imagine that many members of the Afghan National Security Force (ANSF) would also be Pashtun. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
    What the coalition forces did was to provide first class training and equipment to allow the ANSF to protect and defend their country after our withdrawal. The fact that they have not, tells me a lot about their tribal system. They are loyal, firstly to their tribe, then their country, which has allowed the Taliban to sweep through the country and get the ANSF to lay down their weapons and in turn, they have scooped up these weapons, vehicles, ammunition, aircraft etc and are now theirs to use against the weaker tribes.
    A perfect example of this tribal system happened when I was there. The Afghan Colonel in charge of his troops was from the Hazara tribe, his Lieutenant was from a clan of the Pashtun tribe, he could not tell the Lieutenant what to do as he was from an inferior tribe, but was far superior in rank. What hope do they have.
    Obviously, we entered Afghan to flush out Al Qaeda as a coalition partner, not the Taliban. They were collateral damage or a secondary target as they agreed to harbour Al Qaeda. Once Bin Laden was dead, the Taliban were the main focus.
    With the Taliban back in power, my main concern is that Al Qaeda will reinvigorate and worldwide terrorist attacks will once again start to occur and with the world in a pandemic it is an optimum time for both planning and execution with many countries solely focused on COVID.'
  • Nath103
    Nath103
    3 years ago
    The problem with Afgani soldiers is that when ever there was a job that was going to be guarenteed to get into a tick they would spruk some religious bs so it was get called off, as there was a UN mandate on Afgani forces ratio to Allied forces.

    Sad whats happening after spending 2 years of my life there but at least they dont have covid lockdowns!
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    3 years ago
    Quoting Nath103 on 19 Aug 2021 05:04 AM

    The problem with Afgani soldiers is that when ever there was a job that was going to be guarenteed to get into a tick they would spruk some religious bs so it was get called off, as there was a UN mandate on Afgani forces ratio to Allied forces.


    Sad whats happening after spending 2 years of my life there but at least they dont have covid lockdowns!

    Good you got back in one piece, and your mates too, I hope.
    Well done.

  • Nath103
    Nath103
    3 years ago
    Quoting Nath103 on 19 Aug 2021 05:04 AM

    The problem with Afgani soldiers is that when ever there was a job that was going to be guarenteed to get into a tick they would spruk some religious bs so it was get called off, as there was a UN mandate on Afgani forces ratio to Allied forces.


    Sad whats happening after spending 2 years of my life there but at least they dont have covid lockdowns!

    Quoting FBUser214 on 19 Aug 2021 08:03 AM

    Good you got back in one piece, and your mates too, I hope.
    Well done.

    Lost a good few mates from it.
    Me Im in once piece physically with added titanium & screws 
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    3 years ago
    Quoting Nath103 on 19 Aug 2021 05:04 AM

    The problem with Afgani soldiers is that when ever there was a job that was going to be guarenteed to get into a tick they would spruk some religious bs so it was get called off, as there was a UN mandate on Afgani forces ratio to Allied forces.


    Sad whats happening after spending 2 years of my life there but at least they dont have covid lockdowns!

    Quoting FBUser214 on 19 Aug 2021 08:03 AM

    Good you got back in one piece, and your mates too, I hope.
    Well done.

    Quoting Nath103 on 19 Aug 2021 08:12 AM

    Lost a good few mates from it.

    Me Im in once piece physically with added titanium & screws 

    Sorry
    That sucks.
    Don't always appreciate how good we have it.
  • Hound_Dog
    Hound_Dog
    3 years ago
    Interesting to see the Northern Alliance 2.0 has started in the Panjshir Valley. The Panjshir Province is only area that is actively resisting the Taliban and some familiar names, Massoud (the son) being one of them, will now engage with the Taliban in a less than friendly manner...heavily armed with American weaponry courtesy of our friends in Langley.

    Deja vu or what?
  • Hound_Dog
    Hound_Dog
    3 years ago
    Reports coming out now the Northern Alliance attacked and killed 330 Taliban yesterday in an offensive in the Panjshir. You would imagine that this will be the start of a wider campaign. No rest for the wicked.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    3 years ago
    Quoting Hound_Dog on 24 Aug 2021 12:36 AM

    Reports coming out now the Northern Alliance attacked and killed 330 Taliban yesterday in an offensive in the Panjshir. You would imagine that this will be the start of a wider campaign. No rest for the wicked.

    I’d not heard of this mob HD.
    Makes interesting reading.
    Also makes me wonder why our media aren’t reporting it.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    3 years ago
    I'm an old prick, and being so notice that so many occurances just seem to repeat, such as Afghanistan, is like a wheel forever spinning. Feel for those that are stuck in there as spokes as such, to go aroud again. 
  • Neale
    Neale
    3 years ago
    Can you imagine what’s going to happen to god knows how many people who were known to have aided u.s. forces and their allies once the withdrawal is done.
    Glad I’m here.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    3 years ago
    They have had 20 years to plan this withdrawal.   What a total clusterfuck.
    What was it like when you were there  Nath 103 ?
    Did you have any faith in the plan?
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    3 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 25 Aug 2021 10:31 AM

    They have had 20 years to plan this withdrawal.   What a total clusterfuck.

    What was it like when you were there  Nath 103 ?
    Did you have any faith in the plan?

    Yeah, obviously there could have been a gradual progressive withdrawal over a few months for embassy staff, interpreters & other specialists. 
    It was a a 'Cluster-F' alright.       
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