Wanted , Softail 103 "long block" 2013 or younger

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  • Retroman
    Retroman
    21 days ago
    The  2008 CVO Springer lives with the "donor" 2010 Rocker C 96" !
    A bit of a mission but (almost) done now. Looks like a bought one despite the gearbox and inner primary being CVO grey not black
    The original 110 , as suspected was grenaded like an IED !
    Diagnosed by a reputable indy mechanic 100% an "uneconomic repair"
    Actually he said "lotsa $ !"
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    21 days ago
    What caused the engine failure?
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    20 days ago
    Collapsed lifter , then ridden 100 K's home from the bush. we kinda knew that already a while back , or strongly suspected so.

    That'll do it every time. Swarf all thru' the motor , lifters/oil pump/rockers etc etc. One lifter is seized in FFsake !

    We woulda preferred a 103 to start but this 96 was brand spankers sat in the shed for 11 years.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    20 days ago
    Bummer….were they the original oem lifters?
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    20 days ago
    Quoting Retroman on 06 Oct 2021 09:39 AM

    Collapsed lifter , then ridden 100 K's home from the bush. we kinda knew that already a while back , or strongly suspected so.


    That'll do it every time. Swarf all thru' the motor , lifters/oil pump/rockers etc etc. One lifter is seized in FFsake !

    We woulda preferred a 103 to start but this 96 was brand spankers sat in the shed for 11 years.

    Bad luck there (dare I say mixed in with a bit of bad management).
    Your avatar slogan sums it up unfortunately.
    Best of luck with your new engine build.

  • John.R
    John.R
    20 days ago
    How many KMs did you get out of the lifters on the 110? I've got the same motor and am keeping an eye on it, have read about the insane valve pressures just munching lifters.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    20 days ago
    Bike had @60,000 K's. Original from new OEM lifters we are assuming.

    This "new" 96 will be running tomorrow , and I will reflash the ECM to a stage 1 96cube with no ACR's.

    Using the same BUB jug huggers true duals exhausts that were on it in the USA and the stock CVO Heavy breather , so the bike will "look the same"

    In the end we did not do any mods to the stock 96 , so I reckon he's going to be underwhelmed by the mumbo on tap.

    Maybe not. Time will tell but it should still be a nice cruiser. As a 110 these CVO Springers are quite grunty out the box.
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    20 days ago
    I would be interested to know which lifters it had in it.
    The B lifters were used from about 2000 through to 2010 and they had a pretty good reputation.
    The B lifters, made in the US, were replaced by the C lifters made in Mexico in 2011 and 2012. There were many failures early and the manufacturing process was tightened up a bit, but still quite a few failures.
    All oem lifters available since the B lifters are junk and should be replaced, unless you are feeling lucky.
    The 110 motors do have high spring pressures and there are a lot of failures.
    HD are more about saving costs these days and not about quality.
    oem parts are required to get through the warranty and that is it. Sometimes they don't.
    The plastic throttlebodies on the M8's are a joke.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    19 days ago
    Had the "patient" running today , quite sweet at idle after a few expected starting gremlins. It was not ridden.

    Plan is to change the oil and filter again in 100 K's

    It's now a stage 1 tuned 96 cube , for "air cleaner and race exhaust". that part went smoothly thankfully.

    Sorry I can't answer the what lifters question specifically , just that they were the originals from 2008.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    9 days ago
    10 days on and the 96" /110 has now run over 500 K's including a good 200Km run out into the wheatbelt up to 110Km/H.

    I changed the engine oil and filter at 100 K's just in case any swarf from the grenaded 110 remained in the pipes or oil tank.

    They were flushed thru during the engine swap but you never know !   "Oil is cheap , engines ain't"...

    It will be done again in 2,000 K's under an abundance of caution. Then every 5K. Penrite Synthetic the oil of availability.

    The owner has noticed a torque loss ( expected of course !) , but the bike runs strong and smooth.

    Longer term the 110 may well be rebuilt , if the parts can be bought over time and gathered up at the right price.

    With the recent uplift in our weather and of course no "Lockdown" in WA he's glad to be out and about on it !
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