Impressive tools people come up with

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  • fatbat
    fatbat
    4 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 01 Aug 2021 09:35 AM

    You are very close Hoodeng.
    The rules are actually for where material loss is encountered.
    They are very obscure, from a certain engineering trade that I stumbled into as a lad.

    Quoting Wideglider on 01 Aug 2021 12:02 PMedited: 01 Aug 2021 12:10 PM

    Very good, I learn something everyday. 

    So it's seems the pattern makers pretend a measurement is not really what it is, so then adjust it to suit their particular needs - not an engineering rule!
    Rather than measuring and then applying a correction factor, make a fake rule.
    Pattern-makers - carpets, curtains, cushions? 

    Quoting Far Canal on 01 Aug 2021 11:32 PM

    It is true Wideglider there is an occupation called Pattern-maker that has something to do with making clothes etc.

    However an Engineering Patternmaker makes patterns usually out of timber. These patterns are used to make sand molds. The patterns are taken out of the molds and into the molds molten metal is poured to make a metal casting. That is how they make all sorts of metal items like engine blocks, pistons, cylinder/blocks, propellers for ships, pipes etc etc etc. Because different metals shrink different amounts from molten to solid you make the patterns using these contraction rules to allow for the shrinkage so that the final casting ends up the correct size.

  • bloodog
    bloodog
    4 years ago
    this guy is a fucken tool
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Any chance of a few pics of the lense, or what ever the round bit is Steelo?.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 02 Aug 2021 12:12 PM

    Those stylus brush/inspection tools are worth a bit now Steelo.
    Have you got the Discwasher brush, liquid, and Antistat gun to go with it?  
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Thanks for q fc. Well guessed rb. It is indeed a stylus inspection / cleaning tool. Mirror is concave to magnify. Soft bristles on the back side. 
    Has a clothes lint style brush and fluid for cleaning records. 
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Steelo, that brush? item in the second picture is something else. Is it hollow so that the other bit with a mirror fits into it?
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Thanks for interest fc. The brush handle is made out of a solid piece of walnut with a void to put the fluid bottle into. Fits into little box better. I’ve had it for about 40 years. Based on what rb said, I looked online and sadly they're not that expensive second hand with postage being more than the product.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Here’s the whole kit, sold it recently for about $200. Sold instantly too on StereoNet. 
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 03 Aug 2021 07:51 AM

    Here’s the whole kit, sold it recently for about $200. Sold instantly too on StereoNet. 

    Not surprised it sold instantly really. No one these days would make a brush with a hollow handle like that in walnut!.
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    How come FC? The wood doesn't do a lot of work and there's not much pressure. The brush just removes lint and dust from LP surfaces
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Try and make a hollow handle like that. There is a lot of mucking around to do it. And you are right, the wood does not do anything except look, and feel good. Things have changed a lot since that little kit was made.

  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 01 Aug 2021 09:35 AM

    You are very close Hoodeng.
    The rules are actually for where material loss is encountered.
    They are very obscure, from a certain engineering trade that I stumbled into as a lad.

    Quoting Wideglider on 01 Aug 2021 12:02 PMedited: 01 Aug 2021 12:10 PM

    Very good, I learn something everyday. 

    So it's seems the pattern makers pretend a measurement is not really what it is, so then adjust it to suit their particular needs - not an engineering rule!
    Rather than measuring and then applying a correction factor, make a fake rule.
    Pattern-makers - carpets, curtains, cushions? 

    Quoting Far Canal on 01 Aug 2021 11:32 PM

    It is true Wideglider there is an occupation called Pattern-maker that has something to do with making clothes etc.

    However an Engineering Patternmaker makes patterns usually out of timber. These patterns are used to make sand molds. The patterns are taken out of the molds and into the molds molten metal is poured to make a metal casting. That is how they make all sorts of metal items like engine blocks, pistons, cylinder/blocks, propellers for ships, pipes etc etc etc. Because different metals shrink different amounts from molten to solid you make the patterns using these contraction rules to allow for the shrinkage so that the final casting ends up the correct size.

    Yeah FC, I’ve been reading a book, Rare Trades, which includes Pattern Making and I was surprised by the shrinkage rates. Imagine factoring in the shrinkage for something complex like the Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the Spitfires or even the first 1969 Sandcast CB750. Very clever.
    All computerised now.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Bloody impressive Hoody.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    4 years ago
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Veerrry Interesting BD!!


    Edit:  Half / part of a gravity die cast mold?
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Nice vernier calipers Bloo.
    What is that thing behind them?
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    4 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 05 Aug 2021 08:30 AM

    Nice vernier calipers Bloo.
    What is that thing behind them?

    Hint: 
    You can get plastered while you're using it.
    I used this tool every day for 30 years 
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Ok, it is one of those things you do 90 degree corners with when finishing off plaster sheet walls?.
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