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  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    23 days ago
    Hi 
    Anyone had or having issues with SSB HVT-1 batteries ? Ive had 2x fail within a year the first went 11 months the second 10 months both wont put out more than 330cca and have resting voltages of 12.6v after being removed from charger for 24hrs. At which point it will not crank the bike until i put on charger and get battery upto 13.2volts then it will crank and fire but it cranks slow.

    bike is a 2014 stage 4 breakout with 26k 
    bike charging volts is 14.1v
    all cables and connectors tight and  free from contaminants 
    charger is ctek 8 stage mx5.0 few years old
    when not in use battery is left on charger but cuts out after the scheduled 10 days at which point it goes into monitor mode and cuts back in as required. 

    Mate has same battery in std breakout and his went 13months then bike was slow to crank so he put new oem back after seeing my HVT's fail twice.

  • B0nes
    B0nes
    22 days ago
    Touch wood! I installed one in my 2001 Night Train nearly 3 years ago. So far it's performed perfectly. Haven't used a battery tender or any thing and having 2 Harleys I don't get to ride it as much as I should. Sometimes it will sit for two weeks before I take it out for a blast and she still fires up almost instantly.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    22 days ago
    no good to read about your bad luck with SSB HTV-1.
    I've had troubles with them, but just got another new one. the biggest problem I had with them was having the positive terminal break off, first time I've seen that happen with any battery, & been riding Harleys with out a break since late 1970's. but nothing is perfect. but I've got a carb bike, the EFI bit different in there need's, still EFI bikes get electric decompression start my motor needs to crank 230 pound no decomp valve ( too high in compression )
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    22 days ago
    There are a few topics here if you search.
    I tried one, tempted by the 450cca rating, that I now know is false .
    It lasted a bit over a year before struggling.
    Lucky it was cheap.

    I'm curious how you measured the current supplied is 330cca ?
    I've been meaning to buy a current clamp meter to measure the actual starter current draw !
  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    22 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 25 May 2021 01:56 AM

    There are a few topics here if you search.
    I tried one, tempted by the 450cca rating, that I now know is false .
    It lasted a bit over a year before struggling.
    Lucky it was cheap.

    I'm curious how you measured the current supplied is 330cca ?
    I've been meaning to buy a current clamp meter to measure the actual starter current draw !

    Hey speedster 

    First failed Battery was tested using carbon pile battery tester by supplier.
    2nd failed battery I tested with a clamp on Ampmeter.

    Since the 2nd batt is a warranty replacement for the first batt they won't replace it again under warranty. 

    So what do I get now
  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    22 days ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 24 May 2021 11:26 PM

    no good to read about your bad luck with SSB HTV-1.

    I've had troubles with them, but just got another new one. the biggest problem I had with them was having the positive terminal break off, first time I've seen that happen with any battery, & been riding Harleys with out a break since late 1970's. but nothing is perfect. but I've got a carb bike, the EFI bit different in there need's, still EFI bikes get electric decompression start my motor needs to crank 230 pound no decomp valve ( too high in compression )

    Hey Krash
    I had the negative break on my first one then bought a new one cause it was just out of warranty then the warranty replacement failed 11 months later with low CCA they replaced that under warranty and now 10montha later the third one has low CCA.
    When I crank all dash goes out motor barely turns over so wondering if ACR valves are engaging 
  • FBUser42
    FBUser42
    22 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 25 May 2021 01:56 AM

    There are a few topics here if you search.
    I tried one, tempted by the 450cca rating, that I now know is false .
    It lasted a bit over a year before struggling.
    Lucky it was cheap.

    I'm curious how you measured the current supplied is 330cca ?
    I've been meaning to buy a current clamp meter to measure the actual starter current draw !

    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 04:01 AM

    Hey speedster 


    First failed Battery was tested using carbon pile battery tester by supplier.
    2nd failed battery I tested with a clamp on Ampmeter.

    Since the 2nd batt is a warranty replacement for the first batt they won't replace it again under warranty. 

    So what do I get now

    I would talk too accc. Or your consumer affairs. They ned too replace even. A replacement.. If 2 batterys fail i would be asking for another replacement
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    22 days ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 24 May 2021 11:26 PM

    no good to read about your bad luck with SSB HTV-1.

    I've had troubles with them, but just got another new one. the biggest problem I had with them was having the positive terminal break off, first time I've seen that happen with any battery, & been riding Harleys with out a break since late 1970's. but nothing is perfect. but I've got a carb bike, the EFI bit different in there need's, still EFI bikes get electric decompression start my motor needs to crank 230 pound no decomp valve ( too high in compression )

    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 04:15 AM

    Hey Krash

    I had the negative break on my first one then bought a new one cause it was just out of warranty then the warranty replacement failed 11 months later with low CCA they replaced that under warranty and now 10montha later the third one has low CCA.
    When I crank all dash goes out motor barely turns over so wondering if ACR valves are engaging 

    acr's make slight clicking sound when activated
    get the connectors out and put 12v across them
    if you pull the plugs you should be able to hear them by listening at the spark plug holes
    would be better with piston down in the cylinder a bit
    less conclusive would be to disconnect them, maybe both or one by one , to see how much harder engine works to turn over, but would be a quick check
  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    22 days ago
    Quoting speedzter on 25 May 2021 01:56 AM

    There are a few topics here if you search.
    I tried one, tempted by the 450cca rating, that I now know is false .
    It lasted a bit over a year before struggling.
    Lucky it was cheap.

    I'm curious how you measured the current supplied is 330cca ?
    I've been meaning to buy a current clamp meter to measure the actual starter current draw !

    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 04:01 AM

    Hey speedster 


    First failed Battery was tested using carbon pile battery tester by supplier.
    2nd failed battery I tested with a clamp on Ampmeter.

    Since the 2nd batt is a warranty replacement for the first batt they won't replace it again under warranty. 

    So what do I get now

    Quoting FBUser42 on 25 May 2021 05:48 AM

    I would talk too accc. Or your consumer affairs. They ned too replace even. A replacement.. If 2 batterys fail i would be asking for another replacement

    This is included in SSB warranty statement 
    "The warranty period is not renewed or extended as a result of a repair or replacement" 

    in the case powersport batteries thats 12 months from original purchase not from when a failed batt was replaced under warranty. 
    so im out of warranty :( 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    21 days ago
    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 04:01 AM

    Hey speedster 


    First failed Battery was tested using carbon pile battery tester by supplier.
    2nd failed battery I tested with a clamp on Ampmeter.

    Since the 2nd batt is a warranty replacement for the first batt they won't replace it again under warranty. 

    So what do I get now

    Quoting FBUser42 on 25 May 2021 05:48 AM

    I would talk too accc. Or your consumer affairs. They ned too replace even. A replacement.. If 2 batterys fail i would be asking for another replacement

    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 09:18 AM

    This is included in SSB warranty statement 

    "The warranty period is not renewed or extended as a result of a repair or replacement" 

    in the case powersport batteries thats 12 months from original purchase not from when a failed batt was replaced under warranty. 
    so im out of warranty :( 

    Hey Bodgie, if you have something that can talk to your ECU, you would probably see something in the software , that tells you if decomp valves, operating  ( but just guessing.
    I had manual de comp valves in a high comp ( hi cranking pressure ) twin cam 95 inch carb, & when I used them the motor spun over real easy.
  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    21 days ago
    When I crank the Speedo led and headlamp go out plus led display resets from displaying rpm to displaying odometer. Is that normal 
  • magnum54
    magnum54
    21 days ago
    Quoting FBUser42 on 25 May 2021 05:48 AM

    I would talk too accc. Or your consumer affairs. They ned too replace even. A replacement.. If 2 batterys fail i would be asking for another replacement

    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 09:18 AM

    This is included in SSB warranty statement 

    "The warranty period is not renewed or extended as a result of a repair or replacement" 

    in the case powersport batteries thats 12 months from original purchase not from when a failed batt was replaced under warranty. 
    so im out of warranty :( 

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 25 May 2021 11:19 AM

    Hey Bodgie, if you have something that can talk to your ECU, you would probably see something in the software , that tells you if decomp valves, operating  ( but just guessing.

    I had manual de comp valves in a high comp ( hi cranking pressure ) twin cam 95 inch carb, & when I used them the motor spun over real easy.

    Generally you can switch them on or off, (as in supply power) This is certainly the case with TTS and I think SE software
    It doesn't tell you whether or not they are working.
  • bodgie1307
    bodgie1307
    21 days ago
    Mine are switched on in sert software and I reckon they are working cause if I leave batt off charger for a day then when I crank starter just clicks till I charge batt then it just turns motor over plus if I jump start it spins over fast and fires instantly.
    100% I got cactus battery that's 3x HVT-1 in a. Row won't make it 4 
    It's either genuine or a Deka Afterall the factory batt went 4 years and only got slow after I did the stage 4 towards the end of its 4th year 

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    21 days ago
    Quoting bodgie1307 on 25 May 2021 12:23 PM

    Mine are switched on in sert software and I reckon they are working cause if I leave batt off charger for a day then when I crank starter just clicks till I charge batt then it just turns motor over plus if I jump start it spins over fast and fires instantly.

    100% I got cactus battery that's 3x HVT-1 in a. Row won't make it 4 
    It's either genuine or a Deka Afterall the factory batt went 4 years and only got slow after I did the stage 4 towards the end of its 4th year 

    I think have to also remember, these new motors are huge!! like some are getting up there close to the size of Top Fuel Harley (188 c I d 190 ) some of them Top Fuel Harleys use a tank starter motor & large car battery's. another point if you had a kick starter you would be able to experience first hand, just how much work those little batteries do.
    the stock battery worked hard on mine & when I got first SSB it spun motor over fired up quick. I could not kick start this baby, thats for sure!!