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paulybronco
2 years ago

So because i require some education i took you up on your request and this was what i found.......
Investigative journalism is a form of journalism in which reporters deeply investigate a single topic of interest, such as serious crimes, political corruption, or corporate wrongdoing. An investigative journalist may spend months or years researching and preparing a report.

So after reading that i became mildly confused as non of the criteria seemed to have been met...serious crime...the "victim" chose not to proceed, the "victim" suffered mental health issues, the "victims" next of kin did not want to proceed with publicity. Serious crime....two people knew if there was, regrettably we can only relay on the one version now. Political corruption...no case to answer, N/A. Corporate wrongdoing...no case to answer, N/A.
As for your assumption of innocence/guilt your not qualified to make those observations as to how people should/must/have to react due to either bad news/grief/ guilt or innocence.
Lastly i might just refresh your memory that he did indeed declare his innocence from his very first press conference.
Did he do what is reported.....possibly....do i have a personal view that is not bound by the burden of proof...yes....has he been convicted of a crime...no...therefore the law in which we all abide tells me he is innocent. All that's left is the disgraceful squabbling over the monetary side of litigation...the woman who took her life is now no longer the "public interest" story.

Jay-Dee
2 years ago

Quoting Jay-Dee on 22 Jul 2021 02:11 AM
Reading this thread a couple of times I've thought about this more than once and I have a question for the legal brains on here regarding Porter's situation. Obviously under current circumstances like it or not he can only be innocent until proven guilty and will likely stay that way irrespective of whether he's a proven scumbag and/or thought by some of us to be one.

He's certainly copped a trial by media and paid a high price if he's genuinely innocent. Similar to Bloodog though, watching some of his press press conference at the time I didn't feel he was being totally honest.

Lets assume he's actually guilty though and maybe even put his hand up and admitted guilt, how would he be charged? It was over thirty years ago and he was seventeen (a minor?) with a sixteen year old girl. What would he be charged with and what sort of sentence would you reasonably expect him to receive for that offence if/when found guilty?

Quoting beaglebasher on 22 Jul 2021 08:58 AM
I wouldnt consider myself part of the legal brains team . However I have a question JD. You said " obviously under current circumstances like it or not he can only be innocent until proven guilty ........." That just doesnt make any sense . Is that what you meant to say?

Sorry beagle, I probably could have worded it better.

I was meaning it more for people who already believe he is guilty. Whether they like it or not, he is currently innocent unless circumstances change where he could be proven guilty. Magnums reply to me pretty much covered the likelihood of that though which is bugger all.

Hopefully that cleared it up.

paulybronco
2 years ago

Your last line sums it up perfectly! At this moment in time he is, and remains to be, a innocent man regardless of what you and i or her friends think. As for some suggestion of "corroborative evidence" if there is indeed some of what value is it when there is no potential for a conviction. No winners in this matter.

dicko
2 years ago

Quote "Without going into the circumstances and the evidence, he acted like a guilty man when the evidence came to light.
What innocent man would duck for cover and say nothing for a week with an accusation like this levelled at them.
An innocent man would say 'This is bullshit' from day 1. "
I believe he said "It didn't happen." "It didn't happen" From memory. Some one will have to "prove" otherwise.

paulybronco
2 years ago

Its interesting that the replies have now been removed from the discussion to this topic

Far Canal
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 11 Aug 2021 10:00 AM
Its interesting that the replies have now been removed from the discussion to this topic

Might be because Magnum was vocal in the responses and he has now been rubbed out or decided to depart the forum.

paulybronco
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 11 Aug 2021 10:00 AM
Its interesting that the replies have now been removed from the discussion to this topic

Quoting Far Canal on 11 Aug 2021 10:05 AM
Might be because Magnum was vocal in the responses and he has now been rubbed out or decided to depart the forum.

Being vocal is a good thing so sad to think hes been rubbed out...even more disappointing is if hes decided to to depart after a brief banter over a stupid internet forum discussion.

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FBUser214
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 11 Aug 2021 10:00 AM
Its interesting that the replies have now been removed from the discussion to this topic

Quoting Far Canal on 11 Aug 2021 10:05 AM
Might be because Magnum was vocal in the responses and he has now been rubbed out or decided to depart the forum.

Quoting paulybronco on 11 Aug 2021 10:11 AM
Being vocal is a good thing so sad to think hes been rubbed out...even more disappointing is if hes decided to to depart after a brief banter over a stupid internet forum discussion.

"even more disappointing is if hes decided to to depart after a brief banter over a stupid internet forum discussion"
you really don't have a clue

paulybronco
2 years ago

Its a bit comical really now that Christian Porter has a mystery benefactor who via a "trust" has picked up the tab for his legal case with ABC. Guess Santa does exist