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  • Chester
    Chester
    6 days ago
    I love to casually look at new bikes.  In most cases they don't get much of a reaction from me.  But I've seen the new Indian Chief Dark Horse popup on youtube lately and it got my attention.  I think they've done an outstanding job of the lines of this bike.  The frame design and the look of the motor inside the frame is great.  The shape of the tank and the way it sits on the frame, also great.  On top of that it seems next generation in terms of the technology.  What really got my attention was the round touchscreen display with integrated GPS.  And at $26k on the road with 116 motor, seems far better value than anything that Harley are offering.

    I hate to say it but "bye bye Harley".  This is better than anything you have (my opinion).


  • Choco
    Choco
    5 days ago
    I don't mind the Indian brand but there biggest downfall is lack of dealership's in Australia. Closest Indian dealer to me is nearly 4 hours away closest Harley dealership just over a hour away with another 2 hours away. Anyway truth to be told for me if I was to leave the Harley brand I seriously look at the new Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor under 10 grand new on the road. My big ride days are over and not wanting to spend big dollars on a motorcycle anymore the Royal Enfield ticks all the boxes for the amount of riding I am doing these days cheers. 
  • Vic
    Vic
    5 days ago
    Don't mind the look of that. 
    Off to u tube to have look.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 days ago
    Yes they are nice, well tempted.
  • Airhead
    Airhead
    5 days ago
    Well you know on a Harley site, this is like a Bishop saying confess your sins...

    So then, I'll step up as a example to not follow, as such.  I confess Oh Lord, as a follower of Allan Moffat I have owned three Holdens.  Yep, the worst of my sins, two of them were fucken Commodores as well!  I understand and hold my head in shame.  

    As a member of a Harley Davidson forum I have owned, now let's see, two Hondas, a Matchless, four Triumphs - I get it, like what the  fuck you needed to do it four time over!!! - umm, two Yamahas, eight BMW's (I never said I was sane), ok, things went bad for a while with a Bultaco three yep three Ducatis some Harley's and then the Indian. 

    The Indian was a great bike.  Had some real class and 2 inches more rear suspension travel. 

    On the plus side, I can honestly say I have never owned a Kawasaki or a Suzuki, or a Royal Enflield.  
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    5 days ago
    I like the speedo and the rims 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 days ago
    To me, looking at the primary & the other side of motor, looks more like , a V Rod motor, or an Indian scout motor. I'm sure they would perform , but .... the Tribe would not call it Sitting Bull, if you know what I mean.

  • Chester
    Chester
    4 days ago
    I'm talking mostly about the styling and technology compared to the Softail range around the $26k mark: Street Bob and Softail Slim etc.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 days ago
    Quoting Chester on 22 Feb 2021 06:40 AM

    I'm talking mostly about the styling and technology compared to the Softail range around the $26k mark: Street Bob and Softail Slim etc.

    I'm not interested in style or technology, I would sooner buy a 1965  Panhead than this bike. but everyone to what they like.
  • UltraPete
    UltraPete
    4 days ago
    I know a lot of people have gripes with the way Polaris dropped the Victory line [which were good bikes in their own right] as soon as they got the rights to Indian. 
    My personal gripe is their marketing and how the sell based on how they are "America's oldest MoCo" etc etc. The brand died mid 50s and went thru a few owners, and if you're into nostalgia, there are too many gaps in the Indian story for me.

    They may be a great bike, I understand the early bikes had some issues with fit and finish. Their dealer network is small and their accessories are dear as poison (yeah, even compared to HD. ) 

    All that being said, I'd still like to ride a couple for shits and giggles. 

  • Chester
    Chester
    4 days ago
    Quoting UltraPete on 22 Feb 2021 09:46 AM

    I know a lot of people have gripes with the way Polaris dropped the Victory line [which were good bikes in their own right] as soon as they got the rights to Indian. 

    My personal gripe is their marketing and how the sell based on how they are "America's oldest MoCo" etc etc. The brand died mid 50s and went thru a few owners, and if you're into nostalgia, there are too many gaps in the Indian story for me.

    They may be a great bike, I understand the early bikes had some issues with fit and finish. Their dealer network is small and their accessories are dear as poison (yeah, even compared to HD. ) 

    All that being said, I'd still like to ride a couple for shits and giggles. 

    They are marketing to Americans mostly. In that market nostalgia and "American made" rings a bell with potential customers. That's bound to matter to them more than history I think. Many niche auto brands have gone under and have been revived in later years.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 days ago
    Quoting UltraPete on 22 Feb 2021 09:46 AM

    I know a lot of people have gripes with the way Polaris dropped the Victory line [which were good bikes in their own right] as soon as they got the rights to Indian. 

    My personal gripe is their marketing and how the sell based on how they are "America's oldest MoCo" etc etc. The brand died mid 50s and went thru a few owners, and if you're into nostalgia, there are too many gaps in the Indian story for me.

    They may be a great bike, I understand the early bikes had some issues with fit and finish. Their dealer network is small and their accessories are dear as poison (yeah, even compared to HD. ) 

    All that being said, I'd still like to ride a couple for shits and giggles. 

    Quoting Chester on 22 Feb 2021 09:36 PM

    They are marketing to Americans mostly. In that market nostalgia and "American made" rings a bell with potential customers. That's bound to matter to them more than history I think. Many niche auto brands have gone under and have been revived in later years.

    Harley stayed in Business from building a better product, Indian went broke.
    In those day's you were , Indian or Harley. Not both, now your draging an inbreed kid into a Harley forum. Might need to find an Indian Forum. Just saying.
  • Chester
    Chester
    4 days ago
    Quoting UltraPete on 22 Feb 2021 09:46 AM

    I know a lot of people have gripes with the way Polaris dropped the Victory line [which were good bikes in their own right] as soon as they got the rights to Indian. 

    My personal gripe is their marketing and how the sell based on how they are "America's oldest MoCo" etc etc. The brand died mid 50s and went thru a few owners, and if you're into nostalgia, there are too many gaps in the Indian story for me.

    They may be a great bike, I understand the early bikes had some issues with fit and finish. Their dealer network is small and their accessories are dear as poison (yeah, even compared to HD. ) 

    All that being said, I'd still like to ride a couple for shits and giggles. 

    Quoting Chester on 22 Feb 2021 09:36 PM

    They are marketing to Americans mostly. In that market nostalgia and "American made" rings a bell with potential customers. That's bound to matter to them more than history I think. Many niche auto brands have gone under and have been revived in later years.

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 22 Feb 2021 11:07 PM

    Harley stayed in Business from building a better product, Indian went broke.

    In those day's you were , Indian or Harley. Not both, now your draging an inbreed kid into a Harley forum. Might need to find an Indian Forum. Just saying.

    The only brand I'm loyal to is the one that makes the better product for me.  Brand loyalty usually means that you'll accept an inferior product to stay loyal to the brand.  And I couldn't think of any better way to describe how Harley have traded over the last 30 years.  Competition is how brands improve the quality of their product or they die off.  I give Harley a 50/50 chance the way things are going.