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Air Conditioning- Splits vs Multi-Splits vs Ducted and Panasonic vs Daikin vs Mitsubishi

  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    3 years ago
    Hi All, 
    I know this forum is about HD bikes, but I thought that the discussion on Solar power was very informative and I’m looking for some learned opinions, so here goes......

    About to pull the trigger on a new A/C for my home in Perth, the current Evap just doesn’t cut the butter and nor does it provide heating in winter, even though it’s only 4 years old!

    I was thinking of leaving the Evap in place for those days when it’s not that hot, because it is as cheap as chips to run, however I was quickly talked out of that, being as the Evap works almost opposite to A/C........

    After starting out with a thought to go for 5 individual splits, then being told that Multi-Split was the way to go, I have more or less decided on a ducted system! Your thoughts please!

    Then I need to select a brand! So I have narrowed them down to Panasonic vs Daikin vs Mitsubishi. The specific model numbers are:-
    Panasonic - S-125PE1R5B - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Daikin - FDYAN125AV1 - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Mitsubishi - FDUA125AVNXVF - 12.5 Kw Ducted A/C

    As for pricing, there is only $187 difference between cheapest and most expensive.  The total cost, including removal of old Evap and fixing of roof etc is $10820.00 for the most expensive. 

    Thanks in advance for your opinions, apologies if anyone is pissed at me for bringing this up on our forum.

    Stay safe and stay upright 

  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    12.5kw is standard for most ducted systems now. Daikin ducted and splits we’ve had in 2 houses. In this house we have 8 outlets all individually zoned and controlled from closed and 10% increments up to 100% open. the installer tells me not as sophisticated as other brands (internet control etc) but good reliability. 
    We also had a large fairly new ducted evap unit. Rather than pull it out, Had the installer put 4 evap outlets in outside umr verandah. 
    Now refrig inside, evap outside where it doesn’t matter if open to elements. 
    Price sounds about right. 
    Multi splits an expensive option although if I had my way again, I’d put a small split in master bedroom. Only 2 of us and couple dogs so doesn’t make sense to run large unit just to keep just one room cool or warm at night. 
    Only prob with ducted is control usually in central location away from bedroom and few have remote controls unlike the splits. 
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    3 years ago
    I have a Split 8kw for the kitchen/dining/computer and lounge rooms and 2 x 2kw in each of two bedrooms, main and guest
    8kw split in the games room, 9x6M lined, insulated shed, 40C to 22 in 10 minutes

    only the wife and I live here, we are either in the main rooms or in bed so that's all we need
    the swampy that is ducted through the house has the winter guards on and vents covered as when hot here it is usually humid in the evenings and don't help with 45c for weeks on end
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    3 years ago
    Quoting Muzza Wa on 01 Dec 2020 04:55 AM

    Hi All, 

    I know this forum is about HD bikes, but I thought that the discussion on Solar power was very informative and I’m looking for some learned opinions, so here goes......

    About to pull the trigger on a new A/C for my home in Perth, the current Evap just doesn’t cut the butter and nor does it provide heating in winter, even though it’s only 4 years old!

    I was thinking of leaving the Evap in place for those days when it’s not that hot, because it is as cheap as chips to run, however I was quickly talked out of that, being as the Evap works almost opposite to A/C........

    After starting out with a thought to go for 5 individual splits, then being told that Multi-Split was the way to go, I have more or less decided on a ducted system! Your thoughts please!

    Then I need to select a brand! So I have narrowed them down to Panasonic vs Daikin vs Mitsubishi. The specific model numbers are:-
    Panasonic - S-125PE1R5B - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Daikin - FDYAN125AV1 - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Mitsubishi - FDUA125AVNXVF - 12.5 Kw Ducted A/C

    As for pricing, there is only $187 difference between cheapest and most expensive.  The total cost, including removal of old Evap and fixing of roof etc is $10820.00 for the most expensive. 

    Thanks in advance for your opinions, apologies if anyone is pissed at me for bringing this up on our forum.

    Stay safe and stay upright 

    I can see a pattern forming here.  Do you live in SA ?
    Have you contemplated opening a few windows to let the breeze in? 
    And have you contemplated toughening the fuck up?

  • Airhead
    Airhead
    3 years ago
    The advice I got from a mate who is in the trade said go Toshiba for home split air con units.
  • Airhead
    Airhead
    3 years ago
    Quoting Muzza Wa on 01 Dec 2020 04:55 AM

    Hi All, 

    I know this forum is about HD bikes, but I thought that the discussion on Solar power was very informative and I’m looking for some learned opinions, so here goes......

    About to pull the trigger on a new A/C for my home in Perth, the current Evap just doesn’t cut the butter and nor does it provide heating in winter, even though it’s only 4 years old!

    I was thinking of leaving the Evap in place for those days when it’s not that hot, because it is as cheap as chips to run, however I was quickly talked out of that, being as the Evap works almost opposite to A/C........

    After starting out with a thought to go for 5 individual splits, then being told that Multi-Split was the way to go, I have more or less decided on a ducted system! Your thoughts please!

    Then I need to select a brand! So I have narrowed them down to Panasonic vs Daikin vs Mitsubishi. The specific model numbers are:-
    Panasonic - S-125PE1R5B - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Daikin - FDYAN125AV1 - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Mitsubishi - FDUA125AVNXVF - 12.5 Kw Ducted A/C

    As for pricing, there is only $187 difference between cheapest and most expensive.  The total cost, including removal of old Evap and fixing of roof etc is $10820.00 for the most expensive. 

    Thanks in advance for your opinions, apologies if anyone is pissed at me for bringing this up on our forum.

    Stay safe and stay upright 

    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 09:31 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 09:50 AM

    I can see a pattern forming here.  Do you live in SA ?

    Have you contemplated opening a few windows to let the breeze in? 
    And have you contemplated toughening the fuck up?

    Why be tough when you could be cool?
  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    3 years ago
    Quoting Muzza Wa on 01 Dec 2020 04:55 AM

    Hi All, 

    I know this forum is about HD bikes, but I thought that the discussion on Solar power was very informative and I’m looking for some learned opinions, so here goes......

    About to pull the trigger on a new A/C for my home in Perth, the current Evap just doesn’t cut the butter and nor does it provide heating in winter, even though it’s only 4 years old!

    I was thinking of leaving the Evap in place for those days when it’s not that hot, because it is as cheap as chips to run, however I was quickly talked out of that, being as the Evap works almost opposite to A/C........

    After starting out with a thought to go for 5 individual splits, then being told that Multi-Split was the way to go, I have more or less decided on a ducted system! Your thoughts please!

    Then I need to select a brand! So I have narrowed them down to Panasonic vs Daikin vs Mitsubishi. The specific model numbers are:-
    Panasonic - S-125PE1R5B - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Daikin - FDYAN125AV1 - 12.5 KW Ducted A/C
    Mitsubishi - FDUA125AVNXVF - 12.5 Kw Ducted A/C

    As for pricing, there is only $187 difference between cheapest and most expensive.  The total cost, including removal of old Evap and fixing of roof etc is $10820.00 for the most expensive. 

    Thanks in advance for your opinions, apologies if anyone is pissed at me for bringing this up on our forum.

    Stay safe and stay upright 

    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 09:31 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 09:50 AM

    I can see a pattern forming here.  Do you live in SA ?

    Have you contemplated opening a few windows to let the breeze in? 
    And have you contemplated toughening the fuck up?

    Not unless they moved Perth out of WA in to SA! Like the man said, why be only tough when you can be cool and tough?
  • Muzza Wa
    Muzza Wa
    3 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 01 Dec 2020 05:15 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 05:24 AM

    12.5kw is standard for most ducted systems now. Daikin ducted and splits we’ve had in 2 houses. In this house we have 8 outlets all individually zoned and controlled from closed and 10% increments up to 100% open. the installer tells me not as sophisticated as other brands (internet control etc) but good reliability. 

    We also had a large fairly new ducted evap unit. Rather than pull it out, Had the installer put 4 evap outlets in outside umr verandah. 
    Now refrig inside, evap outside where it doesn’t matter if open to elements. 
    Price sounds about right. 
    Multi splits an expensive option although if I had my way again, I’d put a small split in master bedroom. Only 2 of us and couple dogs so doesn’t make sense to run large unit just to keep just one room cool or warm at night. 
    Only prob with ducted is control usually in central location away from bedroom and few have remote controls unlike the splits. 

    I like this idea! Going to see what that does to the installation price! Thanks mate!
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Got a Daiken ducted system. To offset the cost of running it 13.2 kw solar system putting 80kw per day back into the grid over summer. The trick with ducted is to make sure the return is in the correct position to make sure that the temp is even if your not letting the whole house cool down.
  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    Give us a break Beags. It can get up to a blistering 28, 30 degrees in SA an WA. We need those comfort items just to survive.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    3 years ago
    It was 43 in Wollongong on Sunday.  ( NSW )  The power went out at 2pm and didnt come back on until 11 pm.
    Ya dont fukin hear me whinging.

  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    30 more days
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  • Airhead
    Airhead
    3 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 10:42 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 10:44 AM

    It was 43 in Wollongong on Sunday.  ( NSW )  The power went out at 2pm and didnt come back on until 11 pm.

    Ya dont fukin hear me whinging.

    Were you without the air con for those nine hours?


  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    3 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 10:42 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 10:44 AM

    It was 43 in Wollongong on Sunday.  ( NSW )  The power went out at 2pm and didnt come back on until 11 pm.

    Ya dont fukin hear me whinging.

    Meet a bloke like you BB, lived in an iron house out of Cobar NSW, said only the new arrivals need AC.
    Wollongong not too bad, I'm down coast more, if I open up front & rear door sea breeze cools it off, so don't need to use ac & no heater.
  • Airhead
    Airhead
    3 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 10:42 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 10:44 AM

    It was 43 in Wollongong on Sunday.  ( NSW )  The power went out at 2pm and didnt come back on until 11 pm.

    Ya dont fukin hear me whinging.

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 02 Dec 2020 02:34 AM

    Meet a bloke like you BB, lived in an iron house out of Cobar NSW, said only the new arrivals need AC.

    Wollongong not too bad, I'm down coast more, if I open up front & rear door sea breeze cools it off, so don't need to use ac & no heater.

    That's probably true, spent three years in Broken Hill.  Me, I loved the air con.  50 Celsius outside isn't much fun.  On one of my trips out there, in the car late January, had my dane in the back seat.  Stopped at 5pm in Wilcannia, it was 49 degrees.  Got her out, she walked two steps turned around looked at me like I was mad and got back into the car.  I felt sorry for her, as it was a little Fiesta she had been there since 5am. 

    Cobar, that's the fucken tropics.  They got trees to shelter under.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    3 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 01 Dec 2020 10:42 AMedited: 01 Dec 2020 10:44 AM

    It was 43 in Wollongong on Sunday.  ( NSW )  The power went out at 2pm and didnt come back on until 11 pm.

    Ya dont fukin hear me whinging.

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 02 Dec 2020 02:34 AM

    Meet a bloke like you BB, lived in an iron house out of Cobar NSW, said only the new arrivals need AC.

    Wollongong not too bad, I'm down coast more, if I open up front & rear door sea breeze cools it off, so don't need to use ac & no heater.

    Quoting Airhead on 02 Dec 2020 02:57 AMedited: 02 Dec 2020 02:59 AM

    That's probably true, spent three years in Broken Hill.  Me, I loved the air con.  50 Celsius outside isn't much fun.  On one of my trips out there, in the car late January, had my dane in the back seat.  Stopped at 5pm in Wilcannia, it was 49 degrees.  Got her out, she walked two steps turned around looked at me like I was mad and got back into the car.  I felt sorry for her, as it was a little Fiesta she had been there since 5am. 


    Cobar, that's the fucken tropics.  They got trees to shelter under.

    Out there Broken Hill , Wilcania , Cobar, so on it's a dry heat! get shelter and its not too bad, but humid heat another thing!!
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