Livewire Recall

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Watt...?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Thats shocking...or maybe not
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    Electrifying news indeed
  • Birtyyy
    Birtyyy
    4 years ago
    Unexpected loss of propulsion? So the bike just cuts out at highway speeds? I know nothing about electric motors but if there's no clutch to disengage things does that mean the rear wheel locks when the motor stops?
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    “Recall” have there been any sales to recall ?
    Any members have one or know someone who’s bought one ?
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Birtyyy on 06 Nov 2020 12:27 AM

    Unexpected loss of propulsion? So the bike just cuts out at highway speeds? I know nothing about electric motors but if there's no clutch to disengage things does that mean the rear wheel locks when the motor stops?

    Jeeze that’d be nasty 😡.
    But Na she just coasts along, when you go off throttle they coast and need brakes to stop. 
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Yep, exactly the same as any other bike. 
    They all coast better going downhill though.
    Losing power can happen to any bike. Shorted wires, failed coil, broken chain all happened to me.
    I recall cruising at speed on my reasonably new Sporty in 1975, only about 100kph and she seized in traffic.
    Sure got me pulling that clutch quickly, put her in third and dropped the clutch a couple of times and bang she broke free and fired right up, plenty o smoke and I never fixed it, for some reason after that, no one liked riding behind me.

  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    4 years ago
    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting Birtyyy on 06 Nov 2020 12:27 AM

    Unexpected loss of propulsion? So the bike just cuts out at highway speeds? I know nothing about electric motors but if there's no clutch to disengage things does that mean the rear wheel locks when the motor stops?

    Book a test ride & find out, or Buy the new Heavy Duty mag as they had one to test should give you a run down , of all in's & outs.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 07:43 AMedited: 06 Nov 2020 07:44 AM

    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 

    Ouch, cam chain snapping is unusual, no recovering from that,  what bike ?
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    4 years ago
    A flat battery won't lock up the rear . 
    It will coast to a stop with some "engine braking" from the electric motor.
    Grab your battery drill and turn the Chuck with no battery fitted.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 07:43 AMedited: 06 Nov 2020 07:44 AM

    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 06 Nov 2020 09:09 PM

    Ouch, cam chain snapping is unusual, no recovering from that,  what bike ?

    It was a Honda VF 750.
    Probably  the  worst bike I have  ever  owned. Total  fukin shitbox.
    I remember   fixing it and it was the  cam chain to the  front two  cylinders .. I remember every fukin link I had to  dig out of the motor. It was about 17 feet long from memory. 
    With the benefit of hindsight I sometimes wonder what the fuck I was thinking. Should  have  scrapped the piece of shit then and there but in saying that I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. . We live and learn 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 07:43 AMedited: 06 Nov 2020 07:44 AM

    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 06 Nov 2020 09:09 PM

    Ouch, cam chain snapping is unusual, no recovering from that,  what bike ?

    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 10:51 PM

    It was a Honda VF 750.

    Probably  the  worst bike I have  ever  owned. Total  fukin shitbox.
    I remember   fixing it and it was the  cam chain to the  front two  cylinders .. I remember every fukin link I had to  dig out of the motor. It was about 17 feet long from memory. 
    With the benefit of hindsight I sometimes wonder what the fuck I was thinking. Should  have  scrapped the piece of shit then and there but in saying that I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. . We live and learn 

    BB only shirt lifters have cam chains!! gear drive!!
    Just joking!!  at the start reading what you wrote about chains, I'm thinking, in all the time & years I road Harleys chain drive both primary & secondary. I never had a cain jump off, I had one break , but always kept a joining link in my pocket, when riding. used to use silicons sealer on the clip to stop it coming off.( the old day's & old style chains ). on cars have had cam chains, but only M/Bike with one was the twin cam, & as soon as the first cam chain adjuster fell apart, soon after it had just been replaced. I went S&S gear drive, never any trouble, sold it to a mate & it's still going great. Bobby wood made a belt drive system for twin cam, but was very pricy, still think that would have been great as the Belt isolates harmonic vibration.And would make it a breeze to change cam timing .
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 07:43 AMedited: 06 Nov 2020 07:44 AM

    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 06 Nov 2020 09:09 PM

    Ouch, cam chain snapping is unusual, no recovering from that,  what bike ?

    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 10:51 PM

    It was a Honda VF 750.

    Probably  the  worst bike I have  ever  owned. Total  fukin shitbox.
    I remember   fixing it and it was the  cam chain to the  front two  cylinders .. I remember every fukin link I had to  dig out of the motor. It was about 17 feet long from memory. 
    With the benefit of hindsight I sometimes wonder what the fuck I was thinking. Should  have  scrapped the piece of shit then and there but in saying that I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. . We live and learn 

    BB only shirt lifters have cam chains!! gear drive!!
    Just joking!!  at the start reading what you wrote about chains, I'm thinking, in all the time & years I road Harleys chain drive both primary & secondary. I never had a cain jump off, I had one break , but always kept a joining link in my pocket, when riding. used to use silicons sealer on the clip to stop it coming off.( the old day's & old style chains ). on cars have had cam chains, but only M/Bike with one was the twin cam, & as soon as the first cam chain adjuster fell apart, soon after it had just been replaced. I went S&S gear drive, never any trouble, sold it to a mate & it's still going great. Bobby wood made a belt drive system for twin cam, but was very pricy, still think that would have been great as the Belt isolates harmonic vibration.And would make it a breeze to change cam timing .
  • Phatty
    Phatty
    4 years ago
    Got an Invite and I'll be test riding one next week, M&W have test rides next Saturday.
    First time on an Electric so I'll see how she goes.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 07:43 AMedited: 06 Nov 2020 07:44 AM

    Happened to me a couple of times too.  First time ,   the chain jumped off the back sprocket  ( I knew the chain needed replacing but didnt have the funds)  and locked up the back wheel.  Second time the cam chain snapped and wrapped around the crank. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 06 Nov 2020 09:09 PM

    Ouch, cam chain snapping is unusual, no recovering from that,  what bike ?

    Quoting beaglebasher on 06 Nov 2020 10:51 PM

    It was a Honda VF 750.

    Probably  the  worst bike I have  ever  owned. Total  fukin shitbox.
    I remember   fixing it and it was the  cam chain to the  front two  cylinders .. I remember every fukin link I had to  dig out of the motor. It was about 17 feet long from memory. 
    With the benefit of hindsight I sometimes wonder what the fuck I was thinking. Should  have  scrapped the piece of shit then and there but in saying that I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. . We live and learn 

    Yeah mate we live n learn.
    Unusual for a Honda though, you were patient to remove the debris.