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1oil, all holes?

  • Fireypete
    Fireypete
    5 years ago
    Hello All,
    I ran a search for oil and oil change, didn't find anything specific regarding 1 oil 3 holes  
    Has anyone taken this option up? Only area of concern would be the trans. 20/50 a bit light to be in there? Running full synthetic. Penrite or Mobil 1 whatever I find cheaper of the two. 

  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    5 years ago
    Quoting Fireypete on 25 Aug 2020 11:33 PM

    Hello All,

    I ran a search for oil and oil change, didn't find anything specific regarding 1 oil 3 holes  
    Has anyone taken this option up? Only area of concern would be the trans. 20/50 a bit light to be in there? Running full synthetic. Penrite or Mobil 1 whatever I find cheaper of the two. 

    What are you riding mate?
  • Fireypete
    Fireypete
    5 years ago
    2007 Dyna Super glide custom. Did find an interesting (but long) video on an oil discussion on YouTube. Have a look at Kevin Baxter oil talk. I am leaning towards 3 different oils, it just not that hard or expensive, but being a wee bit lazy I thought 1 oil, all holes it'll do...
  • Big Steve
    Big Steve
    5 years ago
    I use three different oils
    Motul Twin Syn in the engine
    Spectro gear oil in the tranny
    Spectro primary oil in the primary

    I can’t see how 1 oil could do anywhere near as good of a job than 3 specialist oils.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    5 years ago
    FARK... another oil thread!
    Just run Harley oil and run what the frigging manual recommends.  There are millions of Harley riders using oil and EVERY one of them has a different opinion on what to do. 
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    5 years ago
    I put Penrite 10W 50 full synthetic in the three holes. Have been doing it for about 5 years without any problems. ( Probably about 25k  kms)
    When I first did it I was concerned the gearbox might be a bit clunky but I couldnt notice any difference.
  • Fireypete
    Fireypete
    5 years ago
    Ha ha, oil threads always cause a stir. It's not so much the type, more the application. Amsoil and a few others say 1 oil 3 holes. Just wondering what people have found 
    Regarding Harley oil, have a look at the mentioned oil chat by Kevin Baxter.  It's got a few good points, mind you it goes on a bit 
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    5 years ago
    For those that don’t know, this fella possibly knows more about engines and harley stuff than anybody else, at least in Australia. Take what he says as very credible information. For those new to the forum have a look at his past posts and learn. I may sound like a brown nose but I’ve got nothing to gain and only pointing people in the direction of where helpful/credible info originates. 
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    5 years ago
    The Screaming Eagle Syn3 and Mobil1 both say it is fit for 3 holes.
    Making sure you change it regularly is a biggie too, lots of blokes change oil more often than the regular service manual intervals.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    5 years ago
    I like redline in the gearbox. Makes the box shift really smooth 
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    5 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 26 Aug 2020 01:32 AM

    FARK... another oil thread!

    Just run Harley oil and run what the frigging manual recommends.  There are millions of Harley riders using oil and EVERY one of them has a different opinion on what to do. 

    agree tussock.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 26 Aug 2020 01:32 AM

    FARK... another oil thread!

    Just run Harley oil and run what the frigging manual recommends.  There are millions of Harley riders using oil and EVERY one of them has a different opinion on what to do. 

    Yeah what the ?
    But that said, I like Synth 3 in all my holes.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    5 years ago
    Same as you Hoody, done a bit of work on earth moving gear. I was on a job up at Argyle Diamond mine and we had to service a D 10 dozer but we ran out of transmission oil . I think it was supposed to be 30 weight from memory.
    It was a big service and the hydraulic oil had to be changed as well but we didnt have any of that either so we filled the tranny and hydraulic tank with engine oil. 20 W 40  i think. The operator reckoned the gearbox was shifting better than it had ever done .
    While that dozer was in the workshop we had to change a track roller.  
    That was about as funny as a kick in the fukin  nuts.
  • Cycle
    Cycle
    5 years ago
    More than half the motorcycles in the world only use the one oil, a lot of them don’t have seperate crankcase, gearbox, primary drive reservoirs.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    5 years ago
    good point mate
    The last jap bike I had was zzr 1100 and  the oil change was as easy as fuck.

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    5 years ago
    Quoting Cycle on 27 Aug 2020 10:36 AM

    More than half the motorcycles in the world only use the one oil, a lot of them don’t have seperate crankcase, gearbox, primary drive reservoirs.

    That is true, but there are a lot of variables ( types of bearings, different metals and so on ).
    even with Harleys, you can't just use , the same oil combinations in all the models. 
    but if your not doing a lot of riding, or don't keep your bikes long. It is not important.
    if you ride a lot and plan on keeping your bike forever. It is important!!
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    5 years ago
    Anyway.... the ONE thing w all seem to agree on is that Redline in the Tranny is the bees knees.  Shockproof in bikes with a separate tranny oil supply and then normal in Sporties.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    It sure is a slippery subject.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Quoting Cycle on 27 Aug 2020 10:36 AM

    More than half the motorcycles in the world only use the one oil, a lot of them don’t have seperate crankcase, gearbox, primary drive reservoirs.

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 27 Aug 2020 10:37 PM

    That is true, but there are a lot of variables ( types of bearings, different metals and so on ).

    even with Harleys, you can't just use , the same oil combinations in all the models. 
    but if your not doing a lot of riding, or don't keep your bikes long. It is not important.
    if you ride a lot and plan on keeping your bike forever. It is important!!

    Well said Krash.
    If you want to keep yout bike for a few years you gotta treat it right.
    Engines and transmissions have different specific requirements for oils. They have very different jobs to do and are exposed to very different environments or challenges.
    Choosing correct oils is one of the most economical maintenance choices you can make.
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    5 years ago
    as much as i usually stick with makers specs on stuff,running hd engine and trans oils,i have changed to john deere hygard trans oil in my primary after a bit of clutch drag when cold and harsh 1st selection. we run hygard in all out tractors,in trans and hydralics [ commomn reservoir ] ,hydralics,planatery final drives and front axles, so i thought i would give it a go.smoother [ not perfect ,but improved ] cold 1st selection,and less drag. i had stripped and checked the clutch components and and found all good.prior to this there was bit of compensator noise on start up [ there is a little play in the unit ] but this has quietened down since changing the oil over.so far so good. if the oil works on wet clutchs' and final drives it will be fine.my trans changes fine with formula 1.engine oil consumption is almost zero with no topping up between changes [ every 4000 km ] with the HD engine oil and 65.000 km on the clock.