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  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting RossW on 08 Jul 2020 12:18 AM

    The Chinese are capable of building things to any level of quality you want. THe hard bit is making sure that you don't get ripped off, which only works if you have a good relationship with the Chinese side, or you deal with someone who does. 

    I've got a couple of Chinese made machine tools (lathe, milling machine) that I bought from a local supplier. This local supplier has dealt with his manufacturer in China for years, and they are pretty responsive when it comes to making changes to the product to improve functionality and quality. It's taken him a long time though.
    On the flip side, a few years ago my wife found out about a Chinese company that sold affordable electric guitars. She thought that any quality issues could be overcome by some local fettling before selling them (She had built and repaired guitars and had all the right gear). We got some samples from this company that were pretty good and only need some fine tuning, adjustment of frets, neck tension etc to make them good guitars for students or someone who needed a guitar they could throw in a bag and take camping. Most of those sold fairly quickly and with a reasonable margin.

    She started advertising, ordered a full crate of various styles and got ready to sell. 

    When the guitars arrived they were almost without exception so badly made there was absolutely nothing that could be done to make them playable. My wife decided her conscience would not let her sell them and sent them back, but never got back most of the money she paid for them. Lesson learned. It was only the fact that we started cautiously and relatively small that limited the losses to something we could accommodate.

    I still actually have two of the good original samples if anyone's interested(Fender strat style). They do need some setting up but should play ok. PM me and they're yours for the cost of postage.

    Interesting story Ross - it really just proves the Chinese are sneaky bastards & deliberately gained your trust then fucked you over, no scruples (sound familiar with the current international events)?  
    When are we finally going to understand that they don't have the same decent values as us? 
  • binnsy
    binnsy
    4 years ago
    Quoting RossW on 08 Jul 2020 12:18 AM

    The Chinese are capable of building things to any level of quality you want. THe hard bit is making sure that you don't get ripped off, which only works if you have a good relationship with the Chinese side, or you deal with someone who does. 

    I've got a couple of Chinese made machine tools (lathe, milling machine) that I bought from a local supplier. This local supplier has dealt with his manufacturer in China for years, and they are pretty responsive when it comes to making changes to the product to improve functionality and quality. It's taken him a long time though.
    On the flip side, a few years ago my wife found out about a Chinese company that sold affordable electric guitars. She thought that any quality issues could be overcome by some local fettling before selling them (She had built and repaired guitars and had all the right gear). We got some samples from this company that were pretty good and only need some fine tuning, adjustment of frets, neck tension etc to make them good guitars for students or someone who needed a guitar they could throw in a bag and take camping. Most of those sold fairly quickly and with a reasonable margin.

    She started advertising, ordered a full crate of various styles and got ready to sell. 

    When the guitars arrived they were almost without exception so badly made there was absolutely nothing that could be done to make them playable. My wife decided her conscience would not let her sell them and sent them back, but never got back most of the money she paid for them. Lesson learned. It was only the fact that we started cautiously and relatively small that limited the losses to something we could accommodate.

    I still actually have two of the good original samples if anyone's interested(Fender strat style). They do need some setting up but should play ok. PM me and they're yours for the cost of postage.

    Quoting binnsy on 08 Jul 2020 09:58 AM

    Im hoping theres a lefty in that collection somewhere !!!!

    Quoting RossW on 08 Jul 2020 11:16 AM

    Alas no. Both rights. You could probably string them upside down if you wanted.

    Bit more complicated than that,, but thanks anyway. Bargain for someone looking for a strat knock off. 
  • RossW
    RossW
    4 years ago
    Quoting RossW on 08 Jul 2020 12:18 AM

    The Chinese are capable of building things to any level of quality you want. THe hard bit is making sure that you don't get ripped off, which only works if you have a good relationship with the Chinese side, or you deal with someone who does. 

    I've got a couple of Chinese made machine tools (lathe, milling machine) that I bought from a local supplier. This local supplier has dealt with his manufacturer in China for years, and they are pretty responsive when it comes to making changes to the product to improve functionality and quality. It's taken him a long time though.
    On the flip side, a few years ago my wife found out about a Chinese company that sold affordable electric guitars. She thought that any quality issues could be overcome by some local fettling before selling them (She had built and repaired guitars and had all the right gear). We got some samples from this company that were pretty good and only need some fine tuning, adjustment of frets, neck tension etc to make them good guitars for students or someone who needed a guitar they could throw in a bag and take camping. Most of those sold fairly quickly and with a reasonable margin.

    She started advertising, ordered a full crate of various styles and got ready to sell. 

    When the guitars arrived they were almost without exception so badly made there was absolutely nothing that could be done to make them playable. My wife decided her conscience would not let her sell them and sent them back, but never got back most of the money she paid for them. Lesson learned. It was only the fact that we started cautiously and relatively small that limited the losses to something we could accommodate.

    I still actually have two of the good original samples if anyone's interested(Fender strat style). They do need some setting up but should play ok. PM me and they're yours for the cost of postage.

    Quoting Wideglider on 08 Jul 2020 11:22 AM

    Interesting story Ross - it really just proves the Chinese are sneaky bastards & deliberately gained your trust then fucked you over, no scruples (sound familiar with the current international events)?  
    When are we finally going to understand that they don't have the same decent values as us? 

    Believe it or not they generally do but like any population, there are bad eggs. 
    There is the same risk with dealing internationally just about anywhere.  I have another story about UK removalists.
    The biggest problem in China is that despite having rules, they don't actually enforce them other than retrospectively if you piss off the wrong person.

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