HD Forums Australia
Home
Topics

New lithium battery advice.

  • beehappier
    beehappier
    4 years ago
    I'm looking for the best battery I can get with the highest cca. 
    The 98 fatboy has a 125 merch in it with decompression buttons and I need the cca as high as I can get. 
    I had a SSB LH16CLB with 600cca but it had died, fortunately while it was parked in the driveway. 
    Last time I was at the mechanics he told me there are better batteries then SSB and he gave me a few names but I forgot. 

    Any recommendations?
    Thanks. 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting FONTANA302 on 20 Jun 2020 10:14 AMedited: 20 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

    I'm using the Antigravity ATX20-HD. HEAVY DUTY LITHIUM BATTERY 900CCA/30AH in my dyna, Hi Comp custom 120R with 150HP/145 tq at rear wheel.

    Best battery I've had.  Cranks over no problem hot or cold.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antigravity-ATX20-HD-HEAVY-DUTY-LITHIUM-BATTERY-900CCA-30AH-PbEq/264532350782?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    If you are in Brisbane I have an Anti-Gravity 720CCA Lithium Battery if you want to try it (gratis).

    very interesting! also I like the Fontana302 !!
    I've been wondering about LITHIUM battery on a Harley, like are they good for every day riding & is the stock charging system ok with them? to date the only experience I have with Lithium Battery is mobile phones, bionic ears, & E mountain Bikes.

    thanks for any info!
  • beehappier
    beehappier
    4 years ago
    Quoting FONTANA302 on 20 Jun 2020 10:14 AMedited: 20 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

    I'm using the Antigravity ATX20-HD. HEAVY DUTY LITHIUM BATTERY 900CCA/30AH in my dyna, Hi Comp custom 120R with 150HP/145 tq at rear wheel.

    Best battery I've had.  Cranks over no problem hot or cold.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antigravity-ATX20-HD-HEAVY-DUTY-LITHIUM-BATTERY-900CCA-30AH-PbEq/264532350782?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    If you are in Brisbane I have an Anti-Gravity 720CCA Lithium Battery if you want to try it (gratis).

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 21 Jun 2020 07:46 AM

    very interesting! also I like the Fontana302 !!

    I've been wondering about LITHIUM battery on a Harley, like are they good for every day riding & is the stock charging system ok with them? to date the only experience I have with Lithium Battery is mobile phones, bionic ears, & E mountain Bikes.

    thanks for any info!

    They are great if you are willing to spend more money for a higher cca. 
    If you need a higher cca to crank over a high compression engine, you don't have a choice. You need a lithium battery. 

    Riding the harley will charge the battery same as normal but if you use a normal battery charger on a lithium battery you will destroy it. 

    You need a lithuim trickle charger if you want to leave it on a trickle charger. 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting FONTANA302 on 20 Jun 2020 10:14 AMedited: 20 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

    I'm using the Antigravity ATX20-HD. HEAVY DUTY LITHIUM BATTERY 900CCA/30AH in my dyna, Hi Comp custom 120R with 150HP/145 tq at rear wheel.

    Best battery I've had.  Cranks over no problem hot or cold.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antigravity-ATX20-HD-HEAVY-DUTY-LITHIUM-BATTERY-900CCA-30AH-PbEq/264532350782?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    If you are in Brisbane I have an Anti-Gravity 720CCA Lithium Battery if you want to try it (gratis).

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 21 Jun 2020 07:46 AM

    very interesting! also I like the Fontana302 !!

    I've been wondering about LITHIUM battery on a Harley, like are they good for every day riding & is the stock charging system ok with them? to date the only experience I have with Lithium Battery is mobile phones, bionic ears, & E mountain Bikes.

    thanks for any info!

    Quoting beehappier on 21 Jun 2020 07:55 AM

    They are great if you are willing to spend more money for a higher cca. 

    If you need a higher cca to crank over a high compression engine, you don't have a choice. You need a lithium battery. 

    Riding the harley will charge the battery same as normal but if you use a normal battery charger on a lithium battery you will destroy it. 

    You need a lithuim trickle charger if you want to leave it on a trickle charger. 

    Thanks for that!
  • JFE
    JFE
    4 years ago
    My HD trickle charger can do lithium too so they have a place in HDs.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    4 years ago
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 21 Jun 2020 10:55 AM

    What the story? Catastrophic failure during cranking, while riding or charging with charger?
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    4 years ago


    Image from Facebook, bloke was riding at the time.


  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 21 Jun 2020 11:23 AMedited: 21 Jun 2020 11:24 AM



    Image from Facebook, bloke was riding at the time.


    That would certainly spoil your whole day.
  • 78gold
    78gold
    4 years ago
    I am going to be running a lithium SSB on my xs650 cafe project. Unfortunately I have already bought it so no changing now.
    I wanted lithium due to weight and size as I am hiding it up under the rear cold. 
    Hope it doesn't go the same way as a bit awkward to get to quickly.
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    4 years ago
    I only recently put a Harley lithium battery in my Breakout and V Rod, I had to buy batteries anyway and the dealer offered me a price for both batteries and a charger too good to refuse. The cranking power is not massively better that I've noticed but they are much lighter.
    Time will tell if they're worth the spend, I'm a pretty low tech guy normally so hopefully I don't get bitten on the arse.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Quoting FONTANA302 on 20 Jun 2020 10:14 AMedited: 20 Jun 2020 10:18 AM

    I'm using the Antigravity ATX20-HD. HEAVY DUTY LITHIUM BATTERY 900CCA/30AH in my dyna, Hi Comp custom 120R with 150HP/145 tq at rear wheel.

    Best battery I've had.  Cranks over no problem hot or cold.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antigravity-ATX20-HD-HEAVY-DUTY-LITHIUM-BATTERY-900CCA-30AH-PbEq/264532350782?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    If you are in Brisbane I have an Anti-Gravity 720CCA Lithium Battery if you want to try it (gratis).

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 21 Jun 2020 07:46 AM

    very interesting! also I like the Fontana302 !!

    I've been wondering about LITHIUM battery on a Harley, like are they good for every day riding & is the stock charging system ok with them? to date the only experience I have with Lithium Battery is mobile phones, bionic ears, & E mountain Bikes.

    thanks for any info!

    Quoting beehappier on 21 Jun 2020 07:55 AM

    They are great if you are willing to spend more money for a higher cca. 

    If you need a higher cca to crank over a high compression engine, you don't have a choice. You need a lithium battery. 

    Riding the harley will charge the battery same as normal but if you use a normal battery charger on a lithium battery you will destroy it. 

    You need a lithuim trickle charger if you want to leave it on a trickle charger. 

    How many pounds of cranking pressure are you talking about?
    I think really large motors, need a lot to turn over as well as high cranking pressure, but all the EFI have decamp wired in.
    my friend had a 190 cubic inch big twin & needed a starter motor from an Army Tank to turn it over with a few big batteries ( remote starter )
  • dicko
    dicko
    4 years ago
    The li-ion battery disadvantages include: Protection required: Lithium ion cells and batteries are not as robust as some other rechargeable technologies. They require protection from being over charged and discharged too far. In addition to this, they need to have the current maintained within safe limits.
  • beehappier
    beehappier
    4 years ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 21 Jun 2020 07:46 AM

    very interesting! also I like the Fontana302 !!

    I've been wondering about LITHIUM battery on a Harley, like are they good for every day riding & is the stock charging system ok with them? to date the only experience I have with Lithium Battery is mobile phones, bionic ears, & E mountain Bikes.

    thanks for any info!

    Quoting beehappier on 21 Jun 2020 07:55 AM

    They are great if you are willing to spend more money for a higher cca. 

    If you need a higher cca to crank over a high compression engine, you don't have a choice. You need a lithium battery. 

    Riding the harley will charge the battery same as normal but if you use a normal battery charger on a lithium battery you will destroy it. 

    You need a lithuim trickle charger if you want to leave it on a trickle charger. 

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 23 Jun 2020 12:50 AM

    How many pounds of cranking pressure are you talking about?

    I think really large motors, need a lot to turn over as well as high cranking pressure, but all the EFI have decamp wired in.
    my friend had a 190 cubic inch big twin & needed a starter motor from an Army Tank to turn it over with a few big batteries ( remote starter )

    I'm not sure of the pounds of cranking pressure, but mine is a 98 Fatboy with a carby so it doesn't have the EFI or decamp wired in.
    I had a 600 cca battery in it and it only just turned over the first few times when it was cold. It does have a bigger starter motor too. 

    Once it had turned over a few times it was okay, but the extra cca will help. 
Topics