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paulybronco
4 years ago

I dont know why you use this as an example to justify protests here. The officers were cleared of any wrong doing and the spotlight was on the medical side with the nurse who injected him shown to have been negligent. Further more when the prisoner arrested the team giving him CPR delayed the start and then totally fucked up by failing to remove a cover on the breathing equipment that then came off and lodged in his mouth.

paulybronco
4 years ago

No wonder we have race tension

https://invidio.us/watch?v=f5BeQ1w4bfA

beaglebasher
4 years ago

Quoting bloodog on 02 Jun 2020 09:59 PM

Thanks for that bloodog.
I shall endeavour to use that term in my future correspondence.
Irrespective of it actually being appropriate for the requirements of the fore mentioned correspondence..
I consider a new word to add to my vernacular eloquence will impress the fuck out of some gullible people.
Or maybe not.

wello
4 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 02 Jun 2020 11:00 PMedited: 02 Jun 2020 11:04 PM
No wonder we have race tension

https://invidio.us/watch?v=f5BeQ1w4bfA

thems mother f$#kers thems is

fatbat
4 years ago

Quote source removed.
Most police procedures across the developed world are well aware of positional restraint asphyxia (pra), related asphyxia etc and the training on restraint and use of force, when followed, will not see any police officer kneeling on the neck of a person, whether they are restrained or not. I don’t think this is a case of education and training as I’m sure the officer concerned would have received all sorts of training on this and annually if not more frequently. There are bad eggs and people who make really poor decisions among all groups.
To give context to police use of force and restraint, when police have difficulty subduing/restraining a person (usually those who are very large and/or strong), out of desperation and fear sometimes the approved use of force options as trained go out the window. In other words you do what you gotta do out of desperation to avoid getting seriously hurt. The dangerous thing with pra is that you can be struggling with somebody on the ground who is violent and strongly resisting and if you’re not aware they’re struggling to breathe, you will take their reaction of fighting to reposition and breathe as a sign of further violence and resistance. This sometimes results in more downward and ongoing force being applied by police (and asphyxia to the person). Not defending the officer at all as a knee on the neck is so dangerous, but trying to put some context on pra. Nowadays further use of force options are available which provide additional options to reduce the risk of pra (and increase safety to police) until a person can be safely restrained.

I don’t agree that protests in Australia for injustice in the USA are relevant at all. What will they achieve? And on the issue of justice, the officer who appears to have killed George Floyd has been charged with homicide and is remanded in custody for the time being until his trial. It appears the justice system is doing its job for an individual who did the wrong thing. Hopefully the same applies for the other victims, including police, who have been killed as a result of the rioting.

Soapbox2627
4 years ago

I get a protest in Australia about issues here

if this guy could not get air into the lungs, he could not talk, try it, its obvious you are not going to have someone crush you neck or strangle you so just expel all the air out of your lungs and shout "I can't breathe", repeat the same number of times as in the video

tried it didn't you

wello
4 years ago

Quoting Soapbox2627 on 03 Jun 2020 06:40 AM
I get a protest in Australia about issues here

if this guy could not get air into the lungs, he could not talk, try it, its obvious you are not going to have someone crush you neck or strangle you so just expel all the air out of your lungs and shout "I can't breathe", repeat the same number of times as in the video

tried it didn't you

i guess if u are struggling to breathe you are gonna say. " i cant breathe " even if u can still breath a bit.. the guy in the states was almost the same , he said it a few times before finally going unconscious ..he didnt appear to be struggling on the ground and he definatly wouldnt be struggling while out cold so why the fuck that idiot kept his knee on his neck is beyond me .. 3rd degree murder is bullshit as far as i can see !

Soapbox2627
4 years ago

Quoting Soapbox2627 on 03 Jun 2020 06:40 AM
I get a protest in Australia about issues here

if this guy could not get air into the lungs, he could not talk, try it, its obvious you are not going to have someone crush you neck or strangle you so just expel all the air out of your lungs and shout "I can't breathe", repeat the same number of times as in the video

tried it didn't you

Quoting wello on 03 Jun 2020 06:59 AM
i guess if u are struggling to breathe you are gonna say. " i cant breathe " even if u can still breath a bit.. the guy in the states was almost the same , he said it a few times before finally going unconscious ..he didnt appear to be struggling on the ground and he definatly wouldnt be struggling while out cold so why the fuck that idiot kept his knee on his neck is beyond me .. 3rd degree murder is bullshit as far as i can see !

the charge is crap, I am surprised they don't charge him with cause accidental death, which is less than manslaughter, quite possibly as it would be seen as a token charge (and rightly so)
the charge would be because he never meant to kill him, but could have avoided it by his actions

still, the riots that are continuing to overshadow the protests is appalling.

Soapbox2627
4 years ago

I don't disagree with you, I don't make the law, I also find it hard to interpret them

Did he intend to kill him, no. I don't think that was his intention, so, if that would imply accident, yet in not taking the knee from his neck to another place, contributed to death, ultimately, a bad day all round, the court case will deliver a verdict either to heavy for the accused and (most likely) to light for the rest of America and the protest (violence) will be on again

Grease Monkey
4 years ago

3 cops had their knees on him, one watched, they all heard his pleas, they all dared the crowd to stop them, now it's a shit fight, if he was my brother I would want them all on a murder charge, they know better, they didn't care. Anyone that backs this as acceptable is fucked in my eyes, be a different story it was your son being knelt on face down in the gutter untill his body gave in, that is what happened, regardless of spin.

wello
4 years ago

Quoting Soapbox2627 on 03 Jun 2020 06:40 AM
I get a protest in Australia about issues here

if this guy could not get air into the lungs, he could not talk, try it, its obvious you are not going to have someone crush you neck or strangle you so just expel all the air out of your lungs and shout "I can't breathe", repeat the same number of times as in the video

tried it didn't you

Quoting wello on 03 Jun 2020 06:59 AM
i guess if u are struggling to breathe you are gonna say. " i cant breathe " even if u can still breath a bit.. the guy in the states was almost the same , he said it a few times before finally going unconscious ..he didnt appear to be struggling on the ground and he definatly wouldnt be struggling while out cold so why the fuck that idiot kept his knee on his neck is beyond me .. 3rd degree murder is bullshit as far as i can see !

Quoting Soapbox2627 on 03 Jun 2020 07:13 AM
the charge is crap, I am surprised they don't charge him with cause accidental death, which is less than manslaughter, quite possibly as it would be seen as a token charge (and rightly so)
the charge would be because he never meant to kill him, but could have avoided it by his actions

still, the riots that are continuing to overshadow the protests is appalling.

actually i meant that the charge is nowhere near enough , i dont agree with all the rioting but i dont have to put up with police abuse ,and to be honest the times i have dealt with the cops they have pissed me right off .. im not black ( well not much anyway) so i dont have to deal with racism as such but i can see why colored folk get the shits at times .. ive worked with americans most of my life and by fuck a lot of them are racist .. they try and hide it but quite often they let the odd remark slip out.
funnily enough most of the colored guys ive worked with ive found to be great .. i bit off to start with at times but once they realize you arent a racist they are fucking good guys .. quite a few of the white guys are a different story though .. seem ok to start with then there true colors come out and they are fucking backstabbing dogs... not all, but more than average.

i have to say as far as cops go the uk cops are the best i have dealt with, they have a bit of give and take and always have had .. australia and usa could learn a thing or two from them.

103
4 years ago

Quoting beaglebasher on 02 Jun 2020 10:52 AMedited: 02 Jun 2020 10:52 AM
Good idea !
Who the fuck are you anyway ya Tasmanian cunt ?

You are truly a dickhead beagleshit

micathia
4 years ago

lots of media only showed his photo, most of them delete the part he was calling "ma ma". Well this channel (CCP's youtube channel) kept it. What you can do? Their propaganda is based on truth.

103
4 years ago

We got ourselves a plastic gangsta! You go son! Seen plenty of fools like you magnum talking the talk then screaming for the screws to come help them. You Gronk ha ha

wello
4 years ago

lol .. yeh maybe.. everyone has thier own opinion and thats fine .. and then u get the keyboard warrior

103
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 03 Jun 2020 10:57 AM
lol .. yeh maybe.. everyone has thier own opinion and thats fine .. and then u get the keyboard warrior

Or the parking marshall

fatbat
4 years ago

People posting on a site under a second (alias) username just to rile people up and have a dig is embarrassing. It’s the sort of rubbish that 14yo girls would do.

wello
4 years ago

Quoting fatbat on 03 Jun 2020 12:08 PM
People posting on a site under a second (alias) username just to rile people up and have a dig is embarrassing. It’s the sort of rubbish that 14yo girls would do.

thats ok mate mate .. a few pm,s have gone around .. pretty sure we know who it is .. wasnt hard to figure out

fatbat
4 years ago

Everyone’s entitled to an opinion but I haven’t seen a single person or post on here sticking up for the cops involved in this incident. It was inhuman and cowardly. Nobody has suggested otherwise.
The riots are all about racial perceptions that many blacks are treated badly by white cops. That’s bullshit stereo typing. It’s bullshit to say all cops are bad, all blacks are criminals etc. Bad eggs in every bunch but unfair to label all.

wello
4 years ago

Quote source removed.
103 .. no probs with magnum

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