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Gday fellas, need advice on vacuum brake bleeding

  • Adam76
    Adam76
    4 years ago
    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....
    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Does your softy have abs...?
  • Adam76
    Adam76
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 13 May 2020 10:41 PM

    Does your softy have abs...?

    No, sorry -  1996 evo heritage softail.  
    Cheers
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 13 May 2020 10:41 PM

    Does your softy have abs...?

    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 11:43 PM

    No, sorry -  1996 evo heritage softail.  

    Cheers

    All good if you had ABS is a little more challenging.
  • Vic
    Vic
    4 years ago
    Another method? if it's only a fluid change on an evo save yourself the money and use the old glass jar and clear tube to bleed.
  • Phatty
    Phatty
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    I had the same problem with mine, Just crack the bleeder enough to start the fluid moving while your topping up or have a buddy topping the resevoir.
  • Adam76
    Adam76
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Quoting Phatty on 14 May 2020 03:33 AM

    I had the same problem with mine, Just crack the bleeder enough to start the fluid moving while your topping up or have a buddy topping the resevoir.

    Thanks phatty, so what you're essentially saying is use the old gravity bleed method?
    Will this still work even though I'm putting brand new dry cables on? 
    Cheers
  • Black Prince
    Black Prince
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Try a Dyson. LOL
  • Adam76
    Adam76
    4 years ago
    Quoting Adam76 on 13 May 2020 12:51 PMedited: 13 May 2020 11:44 PM

    I bought a compressor powered vacuum brake bleeding kit about a year or two ago,  but using it on my bikes and my old cars it has been really shit. I only use it for complete fluid changes, not just for general bleeding of air bubbles....

    Anyways, what seems to happen is they it sucks quicker than the fluid can come through and therefore it cannot maintain a proper seal and I'm getting what seems like more air coming down the pipe into the bottle than old brake fluid?  

    Is there another brand, make, model that actually is worth the $100?    Or another method ?  I'm about to do a complete fluid change front end rear on the softail.  1996  EVO  heritage softail 

    Cheers. 

    Quoting Black Prince on 14 May 2020 08:50 AM

    Try a Dyson. LOL

    Yeah, I could do that.        Not sure the missus would be too happy.  
  • meanmother57
    meanmother57
    4 years ago
    hand pump vacuum bleeder works well plenty of kits on ebay about 25 dollars delivered , have used and work well . just seal the bleeder nipple with thread tape to stop pulling air in at that point putting bubbles in plastic bleeder line.
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