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  • Hog1
    Hog1
    4 years ago
    Just watched this interesting bit of information.


    https://youtu.be/JFFRk_vEOYQ
  • Hog1
    Hog1
    4 years ago
    Quoting Hog1 on 12 May 2020 11:25 AMedited: 12 May 2020 12:24 PM

    Just watched this interesting bit of information.


    https://youtu.be/JFFRk_vEOYQ




  • imoo6170
    imoo6170
    4 years ago
    Probably just the start of the range cutting. What the dealer guys says about the 240 range does make sense (to me at least). Quite like the Deluxe's so a bit surprised there. Will be interesting how long the Sportster lasts.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting imoo6170 on 12 May 2020 09:05 PM

    Probably just the start of the range cutting. What the dealer guys says about the 240 range does make sense (to me at least). Quite like the Deluxe's so a bit surprised there. Will be interesting how long the Sportster lasts.

    I was aware the new CEO had penciled out some of the new models but surprised that Breakout was one to be dropped along with all CVO.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    FXDR out ! Might be time to get one on runout, they’re rare already, stick it in the lounge for ten years, could be a little earner. 
    Then again, that didn’t work with the BMW Cruiser. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Thats a very interesting comment Scouser and i was totally in agreeance with you after reading the vision the previous CEO had undertaken, but this new CEO has decided to hold back on lots of the new models as well as concentrate on the existing core of air cooled v twin bikes. I think this is a good statergy as the old CEO seemed to want to fire a shotgun of models into the buying public and see what would sell and push the crap out of it. Just FYI
    sales so far this year for top 10 tourers.... 1 Street glide 63, 2 Ultra 60, 3 Road glide 38, 5th Road glide CVO 22, 6TH Road King 21, 9th Tri Glide 14, 10th CVO Limited 14.  Six of the top 10 in cruisers are HD with breakout (about to be canned!) sitting second on 153. The only "new" bike on the list is the street 500 with 205 sales
  • 103
    103
    4 years ago
    Some of the current bikes look shit would be good to get back to basics
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Sadly and as mentioned prior,  all the new models due for release have been mothballed by the CEO including the bronx. Certainly agree that Indian have left Harley behind with the power and tech.
  • imoo6170
    imoo6170
    4 years ago
    Very good vid. He makes a lot of sense
  • RossW
    RossW
    4 years ago
    Quoting imoo6170 on 14 May 2020 05:12 AM

    Very good vid. He makes a lot of sense

    Have to agree. If they could price some of those proposed upcoming models competitively, they'd certainly attract the upcoming demographics. Problem is they've relied too much for too long on the departing ones. 
    I actually looked at Indians when I bought my Sport Glide. The Scout was way better than a Sportster for similar money, but for me, the Softails have no real equivalent from Indian.
  • Ranga
    Ranga
    4 years ago
    Quoting imoo6170 on 14 May 2020 05:12 AM

    Very good vid. He makes a lot of sense

    Quoting RossW on 14 May 2020 07:59 AM

    Have to agree. If they could price some of those proposed upcoming models competitively, they'd certainly attract the upcoming demographics. Problem is they've relied too much for too long on the departing ones. 

    I actually looked at Indians when I bought my Sport Glide. The Scout was way better than a Sportster for similar money, but for me, the Softails have no real equivalent from Indian.

    I'm thinking of selling my Superglide. I have a sketchy knee that is slow to heal. A Scout is a very likely replacement. If Harley still made the VRod I would look closer at some of them but I expect factory support for them to fall away.
  • Hog1
    Hog1
    4 years ago
    Quoting Hog1 on 12 May 2020 11:25 AMedited: 12 May 2020 12:24 PM

    Just watched this interesting bit of information.


    https://youtu.be/JFFRk_vEOYQ

    Went looking for this YouTube video by Laidlaws Harley.
    But looks like its been removed from public viewing 


  • RossW
    RossW
    4 years ago
    Quoting imoo6170 on 14 May 2020 05:12 AM

    Very good vid. He makes a lot of sense

    Quoting RossW on 14 May 2020 07:59 AM

    Have to agree. If they could price some of those proposed upcoming models competitively, they'd certainly attract the upcoming demographics. Problem is they've relied too much for too long on the departing ones. 

    I actually looked at Indians when I bought my Sport Glide. The Scout was way better than a Sportster for similar money, but for me, the Softails have no real equivalent from Indian.

    Quoting Ranga on 14 May 2020 10:46 AM

    I'm thinking of selling my Superglide. I have a sketchy knee that is slow to heal. A Scout is a very likely replacement. If Harley still made the VRod I would look closer at some of them but I expect factory support for them to fall away.

    I actually found the seat on the Scout painful to sit on after about 20 minutes.
    The rest of the bike was great, but I liked the Softail better.
  • Ranga
    Ranga
    4 years ago
    Quoting imoo6170 on 12 May 2020 09:05 PM

    Probably just the start of the range cutting. What the dealer guys says about the 240 range does make sense (to me at least). Quite like the Deluxe's so a bit surprised there. Will be interesting how long the Sportster lasts.

    I was speaking with a Harley Salesman a while back and in passing he said he thought the sportster was on borrowed time.
    Because he said of the EPA/Noise/ Euro4 or (perhaps5 or6, I can't really remember) requirements.
    How many large capacity air cooled twins are left. Everything is going water-cooled.
    Reading between the lines the new 500/750 twins will have a bigger version or a smaller M8 motor.
  • Moik
    Moik
    4 years ago
    Don't comment much,but i don't  think air/ oil cooled is dead just yet. Royal Enfield 650 springs to mind and doing quite well.
    I like My Harley air/ oil cooled, no radiator, coolant,fan,corrosion concerns, hoses. Call me old fashioned but is it really needed? Servicing my bike is easy/ straight forward, i like that.
    Why is suzuki DR 650 still up there in bike sales after 20 plus years? Go figure market trends? On the other hand any projected new models being moth balled really means there finished. Any thing stopped now will be that far behind in fashion and tech. will never catch up. Just saying, cheers.
  • Undercover
    Undercover
    4 years ago




  • Neale
    Neale
    4 years ago
    Just so long as I can get parts for mine until I cark it I’ll be happy.
    He does paint a grim picture though.
  • Choco
    Choco
    4 years ago
    I finding these days that the younger generation that have a interest in Harleys usually have parents who ride. Fact is a lot of the younger ones have no interest in motorcycles or even cars and don't even hold a license they just use public transport or travel interstate by plane. The writing might be on the wall for Harley but I am sure others will go the same way especially the premium priced bike's not many out there these days can afford to spend $30,000 plus on a bike. I feel one of the first things Harley needs to do is drop the price on there bike's these days you can buy a brand new car cheaper than a Harley and that will appeal to many that might of been thinking of a motorcycle.  There will always be motorcycle riders but I believe over the years in will be a much smaller group. 
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    4 years ago
    the cost of getting a bike license also turns kids away
    its almost cheaper to get a car license and a small car
  • Choco
    Choco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 19 May 2020 01:31 AM

    the cost of getting a bike license also turns kids away
    its almost cheaper to get a car license and a small car

    Very true also most have to ride a LAMS approved bike for three years now so many just don't bother about getting a license or bike.
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