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  • liberator
    liberator
    4 years ago
    The speed limit for passing Emergency Vehicles ie Police, Ambulance, Fire etc in SA is 25 kph, sure we have to protect these guys but I can see where this can be a problem especially on roads of say 100kph, when there is Road Works you get plenty of warning to slow down, but a cop with a pulled over motorist on the side of the road, no warning, you have to reduce your speed fast, if you are the leader of a line of several cars then the first couple of cars can see what's going on, so they brake, the following cars who are too far away to see the flashing lights think wtf and brake harder, next car harder and the last one in the line runs up the car in front's arse, If my theory is right then I hope something is learnt from this Catastrophe,
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting liberator on 24 Apr 2020 12:51 PM

    The speed limit for passing Emergency Vehicles ie Police, Ambulance, Fire etc in SA is 25 kph, sure we have to protect these guys but I can see where this can be a problem especially on roads of say 100kph, when there is Road Works you get plenty of warning to slow down, but a cop with a pulled over motorist on the side of the road, no warning, you have to reduce your speed fast, if you are the leader of a line of several cars then the first couple of cars can see what's going on, so they brake, the following cars who are too far away to see the flashing lights think wtf and brake harder, next car harder and the last one in the line runs up the car in front's arse, If my theory is right then I hope something is learnt from this Catastrophe,

    25kph FFS!
    I thought 40kph was pushing it.
    Ill conceived road rule by desk-driving knobs.

  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    Who does the diskhead work for?  I may not be able to speak to him, but I sure as hell can ring his company and give them a serve up...His entire mentality was fostered in his place of emplymnet.
  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    This truckie is gonna go ,, they will want heads to roll , and if he had weed and eccys   and anything in his system he is fooked withe a capitol FOOKED ,  although it could quite easily of been a truck bearing down at 100klm , cars in front slamming brakes on to  slow from 100 to 40 quickly , and he simply could'nt stop quick enough and swerved   to avoid going up someones arse ,, , I don't know  , suppose we'll find out , but if he's got drugs any drugs in his system he's FOOKED .

    Regards the dipshit in the porche , well heres a real smart arse , gets pulled speeding , supposodly testing positive for drugs and or alchahol ,,  leaves the scene , films the scene , , supposodly tells a dying woman begging for help she fooked his car up ect ect .
    Well this dipshit really does need to get some serious time , but i doubt it .

    He'll cop  the speeding ,  lose his liscence  and get a big fine ,  they will want to give him jail  but  so many others have got away with fines and loss of liscence , jail will come across has a witchunt  . might get 3 months suspended jail ,,
    Regards the drug /alchahol charge ,  he fooked off  was'nt given a   test kit , to go do a blood test , was,nt  took to the hospital to do a test , and his well paid lawyer will  argue the swab on the side of the road was'nt good enough  to base reults and convictions on , because his client wanted a blood test , did he test positive the necxt day after handing himself in , if he did , well bet ya he took them when he went home to calm the nerves after witnessing a horrific accident .

    So then we have the leaving the scene off an accident ,, Err your honor my client was traumatized , he no not what he does ,  he had just witnessed a terrible accident , never seen people killed before he was in shock  , and responded accordingly ,, however he did contact police , and email police , straight away when he got home ,,, why did'nt they go around to his house and get him , he was'nt hiding he was in shock .

    Not rendering assistance ,, Once again your honor , he was in shock , traumatized , and above all has NO medical or first aid experience .

    Taking pictures ,, Your honor  shck and being traumatized effects people different , i have 110 seperate ,  reports from doctors and pshycologists saying so ,  it was his way of dealing with it .

    Being a Cunt ,, your honor he is a cunt but fortunatly for him , thats not a crime .

     This guy MAY do a few months , but he won't get long , they will want a  head to roll but its not gonna be his .

    But considering he is a cunt , and considering he's a well known to the police cunt ,, I think what will probably happen to him , is in the next few years we will here about some cunt from Victoria was shot  in a confrontation with police , when he was pulled over and responded  in a cunt like manner
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting beaglebasher on 24 Apr 2020 09:34 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 09:43 AM

    So if he is found guilty of dangerous driving he will get two years?

    Doesnt seem enough for my liking.
    He is undoubtedly a serial headcase and there is a lot of dashcam footage of him doing crazy speeds so hopefully the Magistrate can take that into account when he gets sentenced.

    Quoting B0nes on 24 Apr 2020 11:44 AM

    Did hear a lawyer on the radio today saying that leaving the scene of an accident and failing to render assistance could get you 10 years, not that we will see that happen.

    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 24 Apr 2020 12:21 PM

    on rendering assistance, I dont think you have to touch a injured person as in CPR or any aid at all!

    I personally would do all I could to try save a life, but I dont think it is law I have to

    does holding ones hand and praying for them count?


    old dick (Richard) Pusey taking video/pictures, making rediculess statements (alledged)  then pissing off is definatelly not right an custodial sentance is deserved

    The truckie, sounds like a bit of rubberneckin was going on and with the limited facts I have, 100% in the wrong

    Soapy your correct..there is no legal requirement to render assistance other than in Northern Territory where it is a offense to not do so. And yes holding a hand/comforting them is regarded as assistance provided that the injuries are beyond your level of skill if you are a  trained first aider.
    As for taking photos of deceased or dying people It is not currently an offence in Australia to photograph someone without permission or to distribute or publish photos of people without permission in other circumstances. And that is possibly the reason he has not been charged with an offense relating to that. Sadly other than being a world champion morale-less despicable grub the only matters here are speeding, fleeing (bet he gets out of that one) and drug offenses.  Sadly the truck missed him!
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Further more to the charge of failing to render assistance this may be helpful

    There has been a reluctance throughout our legal history to enforce positive duties to act in a range of situation – the general theory being that as long as you do not directly inflict harm, you should be allowed to act as you please.

    The duty to rescue has been seen as oppressive and impractical, which is why it has been rejected by most Australian and UK jurisprudence.

    This means there will only be limited circumstances where a person can be liable – and this will be due to some pre-existing connection such as:

        If you caused the danger or injury;
        If the injury or dangerous situation occurred on your property;
        If you have a duty of care because your position in relation to the person in danger, eg you are their doctor, teacher, employer etc; or
        If you created a duty of care through your actions at the time the person was in danger.


    The charge may proceed should the last point be able to be proven. A good barrister would argue that the officers placed themselves in that position by remaining on the road. As previously mentioned many times sadly there are no provisions under the law for poor morals and reprehensible behavior
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"
    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Apr 2020 02:47 AM

    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"

    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.

    Good pickup....gee his google reviews show what a tosser he is in every walk of his life 2.2 rating
  • RossW
    RossW
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Apr 2020 02:47 AM

    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"

    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.

    Quoting paulybronco on 25 Apr 2020 03:00 AM

    Good pickup....gee his google reviews show what a tosser he is in every walk of his life 2.2 rating

    I noticed too that the 5 star reviews (with one exception) were nearly all the reviewers only one. Astroturfing much?
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Apr 2020 02:47 AM

    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"

    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.

    I like the idea but best stay out of it T. Else, he'll be claiming he's being discriminated at work or that his professional status affected and not able to get a fair trial
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Apr 2020 02:47 AM

    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"

    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.

    Quoting steelo on 25 Apr 2020 04:05 AM

    I like the idea but best stay out of it T. Else, he'll be claiming he's being discriminated at work or that his professional status affected and not able to get a fair trial

    Well his lawyer is already floating mental health issues already...what ever happened to manning up and copping whatever you deserve.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 25 Apr 2020 02:47 AM

    He works at "Switch Now Home Loans"

    Ill give them a ring Monday and add some constructive feedback to their Google Rating.

    Quoting steelo on 25 Apr 2020 04:05 AM

    I like the idea but best stay out of it T. Else, he'll be claiming he's being discriminated at work or that his professional status affected and not able to get a fair trial

    Quoting paulybronco on 25 Apr 2020 06:51 AM

    Well his lawyer is already floating mental health issues already...what ever happened to manning up and copping whatever you deserve.

    These creatures aren't men, they're mice - vermin. 
    He will get a hard time wherever he ends up, jail or institution - he probably wouldn't feel safe back in public. He has become unemployable, life has changed forever whatever way it goes.
  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    Read an interesting story elswhere ,,, It suggested this guy in the prorche is a first class coont ,,  nut other than that he did'nt cause the deaths ,, it also suggested they will throw the book at the truck driver , Nothing new we already knew that ,

    But what it also suggested is the chief of police should be hauled over the coals for  allowing these officers to pull over cars   and keep them there for aq period of time on busy freeways , causing drivers who see the flashing blue lights to hit the brakes and he does have a good point ,, I know myself not long ago  nearly cleaned up a cop , i was coming along at 80 in the left lane ,   behind a truck , he puts  indicator on and moves over suddenly to the right lane , and who and behold in front of me is a car parked , i had no chance of seeing it  , stood  outside the drivers door probably a metre into my lane was a cop giving him a tcket , i actua;lly had to swerve and cut someone off  to miss this car and the cop ,,, and guess what if i would of hit him it would'nt of been at 25 klm which is now the law in SA ,  i could well of killed him ,,,   but who's at fault me of course , not  the cop , who could off waived him to  pull off onto a side st , not the cop , who chose to stand a metre into a car ;lane of oncoming trafficc ,, not the truck who i hafd been sat behing doing the 80 klm speed limit for 5-6 klm ,, Nope it would of been me ,  culpible driving , ect ect ect . probably jail time cos he's a cop . .

    This article  was correct ,, get past the bullshit of  wanting to hang the guy cos he's a coont ,,  these officers  like the article says , pulled him over   had him on the side of the road , for a while , then requested back up for what reason who'knows ,  because then prior to taking him away , this guy who is considered dangerous enough they need to call back up for ,,, is just allowed to wander off on his own  for a piss , which is why he's still alive . I do think  there needs to be an overall of these road rules ,  pull over   then    if its a arrestable offence , get the cars off the freeway has quick has possible ,, ,, Now i'm damm sure if  i owned a tow truck company and one of my drivers got killed ,  on the side of the road because he was emplotying lets say dangerous practices , i would be held accountable ,,  so should the chief of police
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Support group on Facebook eh?
    Pretty well sums up facebook.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 24 Apr 2020 11:15 PMedited: 24 Apr 2020 11:17 PM

    This truckie is gonna go ,, they will want heads to roll , and if he had weed and eccys   and anything in his system he is fooked withe a capitol FOOKED ,  although it could quite easily of been a truck bearing down at 100klm , cars in front slamming brakes on to  slow from 100 to 40 quickly , and he simply could'nt stop quick enough and swerved   to avoid going up someones arse ,, , I don't know  , suppose we'll find out , but if he's got drugs any drugs in his system he's FOOKED .

    Regards the dipshit in the porche , well heres a real smart arse , gets pulled speeding , supposodly testing positive for drugs and or alchahol ,,  leaves the scene , films the scene , , supposodly tells a dying woman begging for help she fooked his car up ect ect .
    Well this dipshit really does need to get some serious time , but i doubt it .

    He'll cop  the speeding ,  lose his liscence  and get a big fine ,  they will want to give him jail  but  so many others have got away with fines and loss of liscence , jail will come across has a witchunt  . might get 3 months suspended jail ,,
    Regards the drug /alchahol charge ,  he fooked off  was'nt given a   test kit , to go do a blood test , was,nt  took to the hospital to do a test , and his well paid lawyer will  argue the swab on the side of the road was'nt good enough  to base reults and convictions on , because his client wanted a blood test , did he test positive the necxt day after handing himself in , if he did , well bet ya he took them when he went home to calm the nerves after witnessing a horrific accident .

    So then we have the leaving the scene off an accident ,, Err your honor my client was traumatized , he no not what he does ,  he had just witnessed a terrible accident , never seen people killed before he was in shock  , and responded accordingly ,, however he did contact police , and email police , straight away when he got home ,,, why did'nt they go around to his house and get him , he was'nt hiding he was in shock .

    Not rendering assistance ,, Once again your honor , he was in shock , traumatized , and above all has NO medical or first aid experience .

    Taking pictures ,, Your honor  shck and being traumatized effects people different , i have 110 seperate ,  reports from doctors and pshycologists saying so ,  it was his way of dealing with it .

    Being a Cunt ,, your honor he is a cunt but fortunatly for him , thats not a crime .

     This guy MAY do a few months , but he won't get long , they will want a  head to roll but its not gonna be his .

    But considering he is a cunt , and considering he's a well known to the police cunt ,, I think what will probably happen to him , is in the next few years we will here about some cunt from Victoria was shot  in a confrontation with police , when he was pulled over and responded  in a cunt like manner

    Like a lot of incidents, blame may lay with a few parties.
    Agree, it's not ideal some of the areas police stop cars.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 27 Apr 2020 01:41 AM

    Read an interesting story elswhere ,,, It suggested this guy in the prorche is a first class coont ,,  nut other than that he did'nt cause the deaths ,, it also suggested they will throw the book at the truck driver , Nothing new we already knew that ,

    But what it also suggested is the chief of police should be hauled over the coals for  allowing these officers to pull over cars   and keep them there for aq period of time on busy freeways , causing drivers who see the flashing blue lights to hit the brakes and he does have a good point ,, I know myself not long ago  nearly cleaned up a cop , i was coming along at 80 in the left lane ,   behind a truck , he puts  indicator on and moves over suddenly to the right lane , and who and behold in front of me is a car parked , i had no chance of seeing it  , stood  outside the drivers door probably a metre into my lane was a cop giving him a tcket , i actua;lly had to swerve and cut someone off  to miss this car and the cop ,,, and guess what if i would of hit him it would'nt of been at 25 klm which is now the law in SA ,  i could well of killed him ,,,   but who's at fault me of course , not  the cop , who could off waived him to  pull off onto a side st , not the cop , who chose to stand a metre into a car ;lane of oncoming trafficc ,, not the truck who i hafd been sat behing doing the 80 klm speed limit for 5-6 klm ,, Nope it would of been me ,  culpible driving , ect ect ect . probably jail time cos he's a cop . .

    This article  was correct ,, get past the bullshit of  wanting to hang the guy cos he's a coont ,,  these officers  like the article says , pulled him over   had him on the side of the road , for a while , then requested back up for what reason who'knows ,  because then prior to taking him away , this guy who is considered dangerous enough they need to call back up for ,,, is just allowed to wander off on his own  for a piss , which is why he's still alive . I do think  there needs to be an overall of these road rules ,  pull over   then    if its a arrestable offence , get the cars off the freeway has quick has possible ,, ,, Now i'm damm sure if  i owned a tow truck company and one of my drivers got killed ,  on the side of the road because he was emplotying lets say dangerous practices , i would be held accountable ,,  so should the chief of police

    Maybe the drugs have a role here
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