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Devastating - Victorian Freeway Police Fatalities

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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    There are multiple offenses that carry the possibility of imprisonment but more often we see offenders being treated at the lighter end of the sentencing range. Its sad to think that we need public interest in a matter for justice to be seen to be done
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Apr 2020 05:28 AM

    There are multiple offenses that carry the possibility of imprisonment but more often we see offenders being treated at the lighter end of the sentencing range. Its sad to think that we need public interest in a matter for justice to be seen to be done

    Its sad but true. You even hear magistrates mention that they must set an example. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Apr 2020 05:28 AM

    There are multiple offenses that carry the possibility of imprisonment but more often we see offenders being treated at the lighter end of the sentencing range. Its sad to think that we need public interest in a matter for justice to be seen to be done

    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 05:50 AM

    Its sad but true. You even hear magistrates mention that they must set an example. 

    And that alone is grounds for an appeal
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Apr 2020 05:28 AM

    There are multiple offenses that carry the possibility of imprisonment but more often we see offenders being treated at the lighter end of the sentencing range. Its sad to think that we need public interest in a matter for justice to be seen to be done

    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 05:50 AM

    Its sad but true. You even hear magistrates mention that they must set an example. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Apr 2020 07:29 AM

    And that alone is grounds for an appeal

    Unfortunately he'll get fuck all, there'll be some media interest for the next day or two until something else shiny grabs their attention.
    When his trial comes around in six months despite the best efforts of the police to build a case against him the soft cock magistrate will let him off with a twelve month driving suspension (which he'll probably ignore), maybe a fifteen hundred dollar fine and if he's really unlucky possibly a six month suspended jail sentence.

    When that happens there'll be a bunch of media and social media outrage and pooh poohing before it disappears from view again. Before we know it the fucktard will have his licence back and probably kill some poor cunt on a motorcycle or pushbike because he's texting on his phone while driving his new Porsche and we'll do it all over again.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    True. But this lowlife should not be able to walk amongst us.
    Is a custodial sentence given for;
    punishment/revenge (to make someone suffer), 
    rehabilitation/re-education, 
    public safety/security,
    a future deterrent for offenders (or anyone else),  to shape society to our wants, 
    to satisfy relatives of victims,  
    to prove to the public that justice has been done, or justify police, court work, correction service efforts?
    It's can be a little of each.
    As an aside: USA has 2.3 million people in jail, approaching 1% of their population, many entrepreneurs have made their millions building & filling up jails.
    I can't help but wondering how he's getting on in those police cells?

  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    4 years ago
    I am in no way trying to defend that scumbag  who was driving the Porsche but what crimes is he actually guilty of?
    Obviously speeding. Drug driving.  Leaving the scene of the accident. 
    I dont know how many charges the cops have got him on. 
    Unfortunately you dont get jailed for being a low life fuckin dog cunt.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    BB, I know you don't like being in the last couple of posts on the previous page :) Agree with you that unfortunately you cannot be jailed for being a lowlife, but see my post about jail sentences for driving offences in Vic. This guy will receive a huge effort directed against him.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    So if he is found guilty of dangerous driving he will get two years?
    Doesnt seem enough for my liking.
    He is undoubtedly a serial headcase and there is a lot of dashcam footage of him doing crazy speeds so hopefully the Magistrate can take that into account when he gets sentenced.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    Quoting beaglebasher on 24 Apr 2020 09:34 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 09:43 AM

    So if he is found guilty of dangerous driving he will get two years?

    Doesnt seem enough for my liking.
    He is undoubtedly a serial headcase and there is a lot of dashcam footage of him doing crazy speeds so hopefully the Magistrate can take that into account when he gets sentenced.

    Hey, don't mention "headcase", it will only help his defence. 
  • Smokey61
    Smokey61
    4 years ago
    Quoting B0nes on 23 Apr 2020 09:46 AM

    Hopefully they throw the book at the pond scum. Not that they will comment but I do wonder if the 40kph past flashing lights contributed to the accident or the truck driver f*&%ked up.

    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 10:10 AM

    There's alot of speculation around of course. But yes, a common thought is that the possibility of traffic slowed right down passing at the initial scene, then a distracted/inattentive trucky suddenly swerving to avoid the slowdown - full speed onto the breakdown lane collecting them all.

    Truck driver not injured but understandably suffers a medical episode at the scene, admitted to hospital, sedated. His side of story may be a few of days away.

    Quoting Jay-Dee on 24 Apr 2020 12:23 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 12:24 AM

    This sounds pretty plausible to me.

    The 40km/h around emergency vehicles is a dumb fucking rule, especially on a 100km/h multi lane freeway. Very well intentioned in theory but you have to take into account the attention capabilities of the average drone in charge of a vehicle.

    Thank Christ we don't have it here in Queensland yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

    We've had that law in Queensland for 18 months...
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting B0nes on 23 Apr 2020 09:46 AM

    Hopefully they throw the book at the pond scum. Not that they will comment but I do wonder if the 40kph past flashing lights contributed to the accident or the truck driver f*&%ked up.

    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 10:10 AM

    There's alot of speculation around of course. But yes, a common thought is that the possibility of traffic slowed right down passing at the initial scene, then a distracted/inattentive trucky suddenly swerving to avoid the slowdown - full speed onto the breakdown lane collecting them all.

    Truck driver not injured but understandably suffers a medical episode at the scene, admitted to hospital, sedated. His side of story may be a few of days away.

    Well it seems that a search of the truck has revealed MDMA, Wacky weed and a pipe.....sucks to be him if thats true
  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    4 years ago
    Quoting B0nes on 23 Apr 2020 09:46 AM

    Hopefully they throw the book at the pond scum. Not that they will comment but I do wonder if the 40kph past flashing lights contributed to the accident or the truck driver f*&%ked up.

    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 10:10 AM

    There's alot of speculation around of course. But yes, a common thought is that the possibility of traffic slowed right down passing at the initial scene, then a distracted/inattentive trucky suddenly swerving to avoid the slowdown - full speed onto the breakdown lane collecting them all.

    Truck driver not injured but understandably suffers a medical episode at the scene, admitted to hospital, sedated. His side of story may be a few of days away.

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Apr 2020 10:20 AM

    Well it seems that a search of the truck has revealed MDMA, Wacky weed and a pipe.....sucks to be him if thats true

    reckon he might need to pack his tooth brush as well.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    4 years ago
    Where did you hear that pauly?
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 10:10 AM

    There's alot of speculation around of course. But yes, a common thought is that the possibility of traffic slowed right down passing at the initial scene, then a distracted/inattentive trucky suddenly swerving to avoid the slowdown - full speed onto the breakdown lane collecting them all.

    Truck driver not injured but understandably suffers a medical episode at the scene, admitted to hospital, sedated. His side of story may be a few of days away.

    Quoting Jay-Dee on 24 Apr 2020 12:23 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 12:24 AM

    This sounds pretty plausible to me.

    The 40km/h around emergency vehicles is a dumb fucking rule, especially on a 100km/h multi lane freeway. Very well intentioned in theory but you have to take into account the attention capabilities of the average drone in charge of a vehicle.

    Thank Christ we don't have it here in Queensland yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

    Quoting Smokey61 on 24 Apr 2020 10:09 AM

    We've had that law in Queensland for 18 months...

    We don't Smokey, it was talked about but has never been implemented, only NSW and Victoria. Just to be sure I checked Queensland Transport's road rules and there's no mention of it, only this.
  • Old Fatty
    Old Fatty
    4 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 23 Apr 2020 12:19 PM

    Terribly sad.
    All eyes and ears will be on the truck drivers story.
    Wonder if he knows the the porsche driver.

    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 12:21 PM

    Why would he?

    Quoting Far Canal on 24 Apr 2020 10:42 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 11:01 AM

    Lots of fucksticks out there anything is possible.

    Re the truck driver, he was reported by witnesses (allegedly) as saying after the event that "these people harassed me, now that's justice". I have no idea about the veracity of that, but maybe the so called "medical episode" he suffered was someone punching his lights out.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Jay-Dee on 24 Apr 2020 12:23 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 12:24 AM

    This sounds pretty plausible to me.

    The 40km/h around emergency vehicles is a dumb fucking rule, especially on a 100km/h multi lane freeway. Very well intentioned in theory but you have to take into account the attention capabilities of the average drone in charge of a vehicle.

    Thank Christ we don't have it here in Queensland yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

    Quoting Smokey61 on 24 Apr 2020 10:09 AM

    We've had that law in Queensland for 18 months...

    Quoting Jay-Dee on 24 Apr 2020 11:03 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 11:09 AM

    We don't Smokey, it was talked about but has never been implemented, only NSW and Victoria. Just to be sure I checked Queensland Transport's road rules and there's no mention of it, only this.

    Was unsure myself when i saw Smokey post that, cheers for the clarification
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 23 Apr 2020 12:21 PM

    Why would he?

    Quoting Far Canal on 24 Apr 2020 10:42 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 11:01 AM

    Lots of fucksticks out there anything is possible.

    Quoting Old Fatty on 24 Apr 2020 11:10 AM

    Re the truck driver, he was reported by witnesses (allegedly) as saying after the event that "these people harassed me, now that's justice". I have no idea about the veracity of that, but maybe the so called "medical episode" he suffered was someone punching his lights out.

    Calling bullshit on this one
  • B0nes
    B0nes
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    Quoting beaglebasher on 24 Apr 2020 09:34 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 09:43 AM

    So if he is found guilty of dangerous driving he will get two years?

    Doesnt seem enough for my liking.
    He is undoubtedly a serial headcase and there is a lot of dashcam footage of him doing crazy speeds so hopefully the Magistrate can take that into account when he gets sentenced.

    Did hear a lawyer on the radio today saying that leaving the scene of an accident and failing to render assistance could get you 10 years, not that we will see that happen.
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 24 Apr 2020 04:24 AM

    Section 64 of the Road Safety Act makes it an offence to drive dangerously in the state of Victoria. The penalty is a maximum of two years imprisonment with a mandatory minimum period of disqualification from driving of six months.

    https://www.trafficlawyermelbourne.com.au › ...

    Yes, but I do have faith that the cops will throw absolutely everything at him, I would also say that he has numerous previous offences. Given the high public interest I would hope the magistrate makes an example of him. It is pure luck he hasn't killed anyone directly before all this. 

    Quoting beaglebasher on 24 Apr 2020 09:34 AMedited: 24 Apr 2020 09:43 AM

    So if he is found guilty of dangerous driving he will get two years?

    Doesnt seem enough for my liking.
    He is undoubtedly a serial headcase and there is a lot of dashcam footage of him doing crazy speeds so hopefully the Magistrate can take that into account when he gets sentenced.

    Quoting B0nes on 24 Apr 2020 11:44 AM

    Did hear a lawyer on the radio today saying that leaving the scene of an accident and failing to render assistance could get you 10 years, not that we will see that happen.

    on rendering assistance, I dont think you have to touch a injured person as in CPR or any aid at all!

    I personally would do all I could to try save a life, but I dont think it is law I have to

    does holding ones hand and praying for them count?


    old dick (Richard) Pusey taking video/pictures, making rediculess statements (alledged)  then pissing off is definatelly not right an custodial sentance is deserved

    The truckie, sounds like a bit of rubberneckin was going on and with the limited facts I have, 100% in the wrong

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