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paulybronco
2 years ago

I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Its about the woke bullshit hypocritical view we now have been told to follow with some caveats...a muslim AFLW player, Haneen Zreika refused to wear a gay pride jumper because it offends her faith and that's cheered. Yet when Christian male players from Manly exercised the same right a few weeks later the woke crowd were hysterical....why is that?
Just for the record i would support both sets of players for their views/beliefs. The same as i would have endorsed Andrew Thorburn for what he was employed to do....CEO.

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Jay-Dee
2 years ago

Quoting 408 on 08 Oct 2022 04:29 AM

I haven't watched a lot of SkyNews but Wikipedia doesn't share your opinion.

"As many of the channel's primetime contributors are conservatives - many with clear career links to the Liberal Party - the Australian Labor Party and its figureheads Victorian premier Daniel Andrews, Queensland premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and Western Australian premier Mark McGowan are frequently critiqued whilst the policies of the Liberal and National parties of Australia are often endorsed and promoted."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_Australia

Quoting Jay-Dee on 08 Oct 2022 11:31 AMedited: 08 Oct 2022 01:15 PM
I'll trust my own eyes and ears over a web encyclopedia edited by the public, it's not remotely credible.

Sky night time people are definitely more conservative leaning than the ABC or commercial channels which to be fair is no big achievement (just having some common sense makes you a right wing nut job these days). But when I've watched them and it isn't too often, they definitely call out bullshit on both sides. The bias against the conservative side of politics on the mainstream channels is pretty obvious so anybody who thinks that they're any better is having a lend of themselves.

Barry Cassidy, the trusted former ABC doyen used to work for the ALP and current political journalists have ties to parties and/or socialise with pollies at various functions so very few, if any of them can be trusted as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, we're way off topic for an AFL discussion, I'll bug out. And where's Steelo gone? He's been MIA (at least publicly) for a while now, I hope he's ok.

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 09:34 AMedited: 09 Oct 2022 09:35 AM

I put a couple of other references up as well as the wikipedia reference and the sentiments were the same. Did you check them?
I'll post a pic from one of the references that sets it out pretty well.

The main commercial media outlets are owned by big business and it is obviously in their interests to support political views and government which is more aligned with their interests. That is common sense. That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.
Murdoch related media interests are more right biased and push a right / far right agenda.That is almost universally recognised and the internet is littered with references to it. SkyNews and SkyNews Opinion have as their support base the right, far right and conspiracy theorists and that is where their content is directed.

Dan Andrews is a target for the right wing media and in particular the Murdoch-owned/part owned groups.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/news-corp-slammed-for-unbalanced-reporting-on-victorian-premier-as-poll-shows-majority-supports-him/632rawal6
The discussion in the media, and similarly on this site , has nothing to do with the Essendon Football Club, it is a witch hunt orchestrated by people who know nothing about football, and have an axe to grind about Dan Andrews.

I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.

I think you mean a left bias. Yes I did look at the links, left wing journalists reporting on or fact checking supposed right wing journalists, no vested interests there at all, perfectly trustworthy. The SBS (more left wing media) article attached is no surprise either. They show PRGuy from twitter who could tell you if Andrews waxes his arse crack.

Media companies are a business and they will appeal to whatever makes them more money for their billionaire owners and shareholders. They are not honest and they are not your friend.

To get this sort of back on track, as for the Essendon CEO, I'd be interested to see how that situation panned out if he was a Muslim with their religious views rather than a Christian. And Andrews shouldn't be giving his opinion on that situation to the media when he's asked, it's got SFA to do with him.

408
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 09 Oct 2022 10:56 AM
I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Its about the woke bullshit hypocritical view we now have been told to follow with some caveats...a muslim AFLW player, Haneen Zreika refused to wear a gay pride jumper because it offends her faith and that's cheered. Yet when Christian male players from Manly exercised the same right a few weeks later the woke crowd were hysterical....why is that?
Just for the record i would support both sets of players for their views/beliefs. The same as i would have endorsed Andrew Thorburn for what he was employed to do....CEO.

Thorburn decided to go quietly for the good of the Club, but people like you want to make a big deal about it and keep it going.
Haneen Zreika stood out last year and no-one noticed. Now people want to make a big deal out of it.
The Manly Seven were forced into making a stand because of the Executive who wanted to make a big woke statement.
Israel Folau had a lot of support for his stand originally, but then he started preaching gay hate.

It is the extremists that are the problem, and the idiots that follow them.

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408
2 years ago

Quoting Jay-Dee on 08 Oct 2022 11:31 AMedited: 08 Oct 2022 01:15 PM
I'll trust my own eyes and ears over a web encyclopedia edited by the public, it's not remotely credible.

Sky night time people are definitely more conservative leaning than the ABC or commercial channels which to be fair is no big achievement (just having some common sense makes you a right wing nut job these days). But when I've watched them and it isn't too often, they definitely call out bullshit on both sides. The bias against the conservative side of politics on the mainstream channels is pretty obvious so anybody who thinks that they're any better is having a lend of themselves.

Barry Cassidy, the trusted former ABC doyen used to work for the ALP and current political journalists have ties to parties and/or socialise with pollies at various functions so very few, if any of them can be trusted as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, we're way off topic for an AFL discussion, I'll bug out. And where's Steelo gone? He's been MIA (at least publicly) for a while now, I hope he's ok.

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 09:34 AMedited: 09 Oct 2022 09:35 AM

I put a couple of other references up as well as the wikipedia reference and the sentiments were the same. Did you check them?
I'll post a pic from one of the references that sets it out pretty well.

The main commercial media outlets are owned by big business and it is obviously in their interests to support political views and government which is more aligned with their interests. That is common sense. That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.
Murdoch related media interests are more right biased and push a right / far right agenda.That is almost universally recognised and the internet is littered with references to it. SkyNews and SkyNews Opinion have as their support base the right, far right and conspiracy theorists and that is where their content is directed.

Dan Andrews is a target for the right wing media and in particular the Murdoch-owned/part owned groups.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/news-corp-slammed-for-unbalanced-reporting-on-victorian-premier-as-poll-shows-majority-supports-him/632rawal6
The discussion in the media, and similarly on this site , has nothing to do with the Essendon Football Club, it is a witch hunt orchestrated by people who know nothing about football, and have an axe to grind about Dan Andrews.

I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Quoting Jay-Dee on 09 Oct 2022 12:20 PM
That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.

I think you mean a left bias. Yes I did look at the links, left wing journalists reporting on or fact checking supposed right wing journalists, no vested interests there at all, perfectly trustworthy. The SBS (more left wing media) article attached is no surprise either. They show PRGuy from twitter who could tell you if Andrews waxes his arse crack.

Media companies are a business and they will appeal to whatever makes them more money for their billionaire owners and shareholders. They are not honest and they are not your friend.

To get this sort of back on track, as for the Essendon CEO, I'd be interested to see how that situation panned out if he was a Muslim with their religious views rather than a Christian. And Andrews shouldn't be giving his opinion on that situation to the media when he's asked, it's got SFA to do with him.

Right wing, not left wing, and there is a lot more evidence to support it.
You need to read a bit more about the influence that Murdoch has on politics in this country.
As for the SBS article, the comments from the two academics summed it up for me, as well as coinciding with the general tone of the reporting through the pandemic.
And you must have missed the bit about Andrews being a member at Essendon, so he is certainly entitled to have a say.

Jay-Dee
2 years ago

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 09:34 AMedited: 09 Oct 2022 09:35 AM

I put a couple of other references up as well as the wikipedia reference and the sentiments were the same. Did you check them?
I'll post a pic from one of the references that sets it out pretty well.

The main commercial media outlets are owned by big business and it is obviously in their interests to support political views and government which is more aligned with their interests. That is common sense. That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.
Murdoch related media interests are more right biased and push a right / far right agenda.That is almost universally recognised and the internet is littered with references to it. SkyNews and SkyNews Opinion have as their support base the right, far right and conspiracy theorists and that is where their content is directed.

Dan Andrews is a target for the right wing media and in particular the Murdoch-owned/part owned groups.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/news-corp-slammed-for-unbalanced-reporting-on-victorian-premier-as-poll-shows-majority-supports-him/632rawal6
The discussion in the media, and similarly on this site , has nothing to do with the Essendon Football Club, it is a witch hunt orchestrated by people who know nothing about football, and have an axe to grind about Dan Andrews.

I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Quoting Jay-Dee on 09 Oct 2022 12:20 PM
That is why there is a right bias in main commercial media.

I think you mean a left bias. Yes I did look at the links, left wing journalists reporting on or fact checking supposed right wing journalists, no vested interests there at all, perfectly trustworthy. The SBS (more left wing media) article attached is no surprise either. They show PRGuy from twitter who could tell you if Andrews waxes his arse crack.

Media companies are a business and they will appeal to whatever makes them more money for their billionaire owners and shareholders. They are not honest and they are not your friend.

To get this sort of back on track, as for the Essendon CEO, I'd be interested to see how that situation panned out if he was a Muslim with their religious views rather than a Christian. And Andrews shouldn't be giving his opinion on that situation to the media when he's asked, it's got SFA to do with him.

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 12:43 PM

Right wing, not left wing, and there is a lot more evidence to support it.
You need to read a bit more about the influence that Murdoch has on politics in this country.
As for the SBS article, the comments from the two academics summed it up for me, as well as coinciding with the general tone of the reporting through the pandemic.
And you must have missed the bit about Andrews being a member at Essendon, so he is certainly entitled to have a say.

I am fully aware of how the media influences politics in this country, I've seen it with my own eyes.

Clearly my idea of right wing and yours are different but I'm always interested how other people see things differently to me. I used to watch Enough Rope with Andrew Denton years ago. I'd look at the website the next day to read the comments and couldn't believe that most of them watched the same show that I did.

Yep, my bad, I missed that Andrews is a member at Essendon but I still don't care. As the leader of the state while working in an official capacity he shouldn't have an opinion. In his own time he can do and say what he likes.

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paulybronco
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 09 Oct 2022 10:56 AM
I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Its about the woke bullshit hypocritical view we now have been told to follow with some caveats...a muslim AFLW player, Haneen Zreika refused to wear a gay pride jumper because it offends her faith and that's cheered. Yet when Christian male players from Manly exercised the same right a few weeks later the woke crowd were hysterical....why is that?
Just for the record i would support both sets of players for their views/beliefs. The same as i would have endorsed Andrew Thorburn for what he was employed to do....CEO.

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 12:29 PM

Thorburn decided to go quietly for the good of the Club, but people like you want to make a big deal about it and keep it going.
Haneen Zreika stood out last year and no-one noticed. Now people want to make a big deal out of it.
The Manly Seven were forced into making a stand because of the Executive who wanted to make a big woke statement.
Israel Folau had a lot of support for his stand originally, but then he started preaching gay hate.

It is the extremists that are the problem, and the idiots that follow them.

WOW So Thorburn simply woke up the next day with no ultimatum given to him and no members screaming their personal morals are better than his and decided to go quietly......This is a big deal......the man was forced to choose between his faith or his job, that's against the law.
The reasons of the pride jumper and religion, are the same in both cases, the Muslim woman applauded the Islander boys smashed.
Not once has anyone acknowledged that he was employed for his business skills and supposedly not his religious beliefs.

408
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 09 Oct 2022 10:56 AM
I am not a Dan Andrews supporter but I believe he made the right call in this instance.
Our sport is better off without extremists, at both ends of the spectrum.

Its about the woke bullshit hypocritical view we now have been told to follow with some caveats...a muslim AFLW player, Haneen Zreika refused to wear a gay pride jumper because it offends her faith and that's cheered. Yet when Christian male players from Manly exercised the same right a few weeks later the woke crowd were hysterical....why is that?
Just for the record i would support both sets of players for their views/beliefs. The same as i would have endorsed Andrew Thorburn for what he was employed to do....CEO.

Quoting 408 on 09 Oct 2022 12:29 PM

Thorburn decided to go quietly for the good of the Club, but people like you want to make a big deal about it and keep it going.
Haneen Zreika stood out last year and no-one noticed. Now people want to make a big deal out of it.
The Manly Seven were forced into making a stand because of the Executive who wanted to make a big woke statement.
Israel Folau had a lot of support for his stand originally, but then he started preaching gay hate.

It is the extremists that are the problem, and the idiots that follow them.

Quoting paulybronco on 09 Oct 2022 10:00 PM
WOW So Thorburn simply woke up the next day with no ultimatum given to him and no members screaming their personal morals are better than his and decided to go quietly......This is a big deal......the man was forced to choose between his faith or his job, that's against the law.
The reasons of the pride jumper and religion, are the same in both cases, the Muslim woman applauded the Islander boys smashed.
Not once has anyone acknowledged that he was employed for his business skills and supposedly not his religious beliefs.

Of course he had to choose, remember this..?
"You must have been dropped on your head when you were a baby, multiple times.
At Essendon, the newly appointed CEO was in the job for less than a day , in the off season, before his incompatible religious views became widely known and he was told he would have to choose between the job at the church and the job at the club."

And he was also a poor choice for his business skills. You need to do a lot more reading.

"The Bombers appointed a CEO recruitment panel that included Thorburn, whose exit from banking - when the Hayne Royal Commission exposed a litany of dishonest practices - was of no concern to the Essendon board. Nor did his chairmanship of the City on a Hill Church, a socially conservative evangelical breakaway from the Anglicans, raise any alarm.
In due course, the search panel failed to locate a CEO better qualified than Thorburn himself. The board had a brainwave and asked Thorburn to step aside from the panel but not to walk so far out of the room that they couldn’t ask him back in and offer him the job."

This was part of my first post on the topic...
"They seem to have made a poor decision with a recent appointment of CEO, to go with quite a few other poor decisions in recent times."
Maybe you should go back and read the whole thing again.

paulybronco
2 years ago

Gee so this is what being inclusive in AFL is....

408
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 10 Oct 2022 01:54 AMedited: 10 Oct 2022 01:57 AM
Gee so this is what being inclusive in AFL is....

I haven't worked out what being inclusive in NRL is. Does St George support child sexual abusers or is it just the Chairman ?

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paulybronco
2 years ago

Its just the chairman. St George Illawarra chairman Craig Young has been reprimanded by the club for providing a reference on official club letterhead for Brett Finch during his court proceedings.
“As a club, we had no idea about it,” Dragons CEO Ryan Webb said. “It’s an error of judgment on Craig Young’s behalf to put it on club letterhead. I have spoken to Craig, he’s admitted he has made a mistake.”
Young is poised to step down as chairman, and will be replaced by Andrew Lancaster. Webb said the move was not related to the Finch issue.

408
2 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 23 Oct 2022 01:58 AM
Its just the chairman. St George Illawarra chairman Craig Young has been reprimanded by the club for providing a reference on official club letterhead for Brett Finch during his court proceedings.
“As a club, we had no idea about it,” Dragons CEO Ryan Webb said. “It’s an error of judgment on Craig Young’s behalf to put it on club letterhead. I have spoken to Craig, he’s admitted he has made a mistake.”
Young is poised to step down as chairman, and will be replaced by Andrew Lancaster. Webb said the move was not related to the Finch issue.

' poised to step down' ? They should fuk him off straight up.
An ex-cop would understand the implications of presenting that reference to the judge.

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paulybronco
1 year ago

Had to laugh at the worlds biggest hypocrite Dan Andrews for accepting VIP Australian Open seats from Emirates, an airline based in Dubai where homosexuality is considered a capital crime. Recently the Premier took aim at Andrew Thorburn for being part of a church that condoned gay people. The premier went after him and accused him of supporting a church that followed hatred, intolerance and bigotry because it didn’t approve of homosexuality and Andrew Thorburn was effectively drummed out of that job before he started.

bloodog
1 year ago

I can smell Sherrin in the air

408
1 year ago

Quoting paulybronco on 31 Jan 2023 12:51 PM
Had to laugh at the worlds biggest hypocrite Dan Andrews for accepting VIP Australian Open seats from Emirates, an airline based in Dubai where homosexuality is considered a capital crime. Recently the Premier took aim at Andrew Thorburn for being part of a church that condoned gay people. The premier went after him and accused him of supporting a church that followed hatred, intolerance and bigotry because it didn’t approve of homosexuality and Andrew Thorburn was effectively drummed out of that job before he started.

You really have no idea. Get your dictionary out and look up the meaning of 'condoned'. Maybe you meant 'condemned', the exact opposite ? You confuse everybody else, not just yourself. You don't confuse me, because I know you are a fukwit.

bloodog
1 year ago

Quoting paulybronco on 31 Jan 2023 12:51 PM
Had to laugh at the worlds biggest hypocrite Dan Andrews for accepting VIP Australian Open seats from Emirates, an airline based in Dubai where homosexuality is considered a capital crime. Recently the Premier took aim at Andrew Thorburn for being part of a church that condoned gay people. The premier went after him and accused him of supporting a church that followed hatred, intolerance and bigotry because it didn’t approve of homosexuality and Andrew Thorburn was effectively drummed out of that job before he started.

Quoting 408 on 01 Feb 2023 03:56 AM

You really have no idea. Get your dictionary out and look up the meaning of 'condoned'. Maybe you meant 'condemned', the exact opposite ? You confuse everybody else, not just yourself. You don't confuse me, because I know you are a fukwit.

Hey the fuckwit posts are on the NRL Topic please be kind on the AFL Topic please
And the word is condom ( used for fucking )

beaglebasher
1 year ago

Quoting paulybronco on 31 Jan 2023 12:51 PM
Had to laugh at the worlds biggest hypocrite Dan Andrews for accepting VIP Australian Open seats from Emirates, an airline based in Dubai where homosexuality is considered a capital crime. Recently the Premier took aim at Andrew Thorburn for being part of a church that condoned gay people. The premier went after him and accused him of supporting a church that followed hatred, intolerance and bigotry because it didn’t approve of homosexuality and Andrew Thorburn was effectively drummed out of that job before he started.

Quoting 408 on 01 Feb 2023 03:56 AM

You really have no idea. Get your dictionary out and look up the meaning of 'condoned'. Maybe you meant 'condemned', the exact opposite ? You confuse everybody else, not just yourself. You don't confuse me, because I know you are a fukwit.

He's got a point but. Poofters should be wearing a condon when they are going at it.

Grease Monkey
1 year ago

That was great, 3 laughs in a row, love this forum

Stewy
1 year ago

More crap,, when I open this forum I expect to see posts about Harley Davidson,,, can't you cunts read,,, this is a Harley Davidson forum

bloodog
1 year ago

Are you appealing to the HDF chiefs, you would like the "of topic" removed from the Forum Stewy ?
or just pissing on everyone chips ?

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Stewy
1 year ago

I'm a member of this forum because it is a Harley Davidson forum,,, I don't come here to read about football, politics, religion or any other crap that has nothing to do with Harley.
I've been a member here for 13 years and I can tell you this forum has gone dramatically downhill over the last few years, it's about time someone took control and returned it to a forum that serves the Harley Davidson community,, not just random crap

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