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For those who think Milwaukee 8 doesn't sound harley...

For those who think Milwaukee 8 doesn't sound harley...

micathia
4 years ago

Does this give you new hope? ;)

paulybronco
4 years ago

Not sure what idle speed thats down to but would be interested as to the oil pressure at that low idle. My twin cam needs to be around 900rpm to maintain pressure

jocky
4 years ago

why did it take so long to shut down

Wideglider
4 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 15 Mar 2020 08:26 AM
Not sure what idle speed thats down to but would be interested as to the oil pressure at that low idle. My twin cam needs to be around 900rpm to maintain pressure

Not only oil pressure could be too low but the alternator voltage may be too low to charge the battery, in start/stop traffic the battery suffers, shortens its life.

paulybronco
4 years ago

Quoting jocky on 15 Mar 2020 09:16 AM
why did it take so long to shut down

Its like Britney Spears lip sync ....or its a internet hoax

speedzter
4 years ago

http://www.amm.haan.de/Milwaukee-Eight/M8.htm

Krash Kinkade
4 years ago

Quoting speedzter on 15 Mar 2020 09:53 AM
http://www.amm.haan.de/Milwaukee-Eight/M8.htm

sprung him!
when it idles sounds a bit like a normal HD but when it rev's sounds funny. but if I had one I would not go to the trouble of converting to carb when they run ok as they come stock & are ride by wire.

paulybronco
4 years ago

Gee seems simple enough....NOT!

Ratbob
4 years ago

Quoting paulybronco on 15 Mar 2020 08:26 AM
Not sure what idle speed thats down to but would be interested as to the oil pressure at that low idle. My twin cam needs to be around 900rpm to maintain pressure

Quoting Wideglider on 15 Mar 2020 09:25 AM
Not only oil pressure could be too low but the alternator voltage may be too low to charge the battery, in start/stop traffic the battery suffers, shortens its life.

Yeah think I tuned mine to around 948rpm, can’t see the sense in going to all the trouble of a carby conversion just for idle when you can simply dial it up in your EFI tune.
Also, carbs and unleaded don’t get along real well.

micathia
4 years ago

Guys, please read, it is NOT EFI anymore, it's a Carburetor Milwaukee 8, that's why.
S&S Cycle Carb kit.

Smokey61
4 years ago

The carbie is a good start. Let me know when they've got one with points ignition.

Krash Kinkade
4 years ago

Quoting Smokey61 on 15 Mar 2020 09:12 PM
The carbie is a good start. Let me know when they've got one with points ignition.

Smokey if you want points, you could probably add a set, or you could add two, I prefer the electronic trigger as I've never had trouble & I also prefer the electronic advance.

paulybronco
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 01:13 PM
Guys, please read, it is NOT EFI anymore, it's a Carburetor Milwaukee 8, that's why.
S&S Cycle Carb kit.

What Ratbob is saying you can do the same low idle speed, if thats your thing, WITHOUT doing all that using the stock efi thru your tuner.

Krash Kinkade
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 01:13 PM
Guys, please read, it is NOT EFI anymore, it's a Carburetor Milwaukee 8, that's why.
S&S Cycle Carb kit.

mic I think we know that, also looks like it has a thunder jet . all a waist of time, as if someone knows how to tune & knows how to map EFI & also EFI with ride by wire. they can set them up how they want.
I have no trouble with the carb on my sporty, but it came with a carb, I don't see anyone having trouble with EFI , if they leave it as it is. the new Harleys have so many modern improvements. just changing ignition & adding a Carb & throttle cable , is not going to make any improvement & as you could hear it does not sound the same when it rev's up. simple fact is the new chamber & valve set up make it more efficient . Same as Panheads sound different to Shovelheads & Shovelheads sound different to Evo's. but simple fact, they are all Harleys take your pick, but don't try to imitate as they are all different. just enjoy what you have. and I hope you all get time to enjoy a ride!!

Ratbob
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 01:13 PM
Guys, please read, it is NOT EFI anymore, it's a Carburetor Milwaukee 8, that's why.
S&S Cycle Carb kit.

Quoting Krash Kinkade on 15 Mar 2020 09:53 PM
mic I think we know that, also looks like it has a thunder jet . all a waist of time, as if someone knows how to tune & knows how to map EFI & also EFI with ride by wire. they can set them up how they want.
I have no trouble with the carb on my sporty, but it came with a carb, I don't see anyone having trouble with EFI , if they leave it as it is. the new Harleys have so many modern improvements. just changing ignition & adding a Carb & throttle cable , is not going to make any improvement & as you could hear it does not sound the same when it rev's up. simple fact is the new chamber & valve set up make it more efficient . Same as Panheads sound different to Shovelheads & Shovelheads sound different to Evo's. but simple fact, they are all Harleys take your pick, but don't try to imitate as they are all different. just enjoy what you have. and I hope you all get time to enjoy a ride!!

Great summation of historic evidence Krash. Well put.

RossW
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 07:35 AM

Does this give you new hope? ;)

How is going from EFI back to carb an "upgrade"?

Ratbob
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 07:35 AM

Does this give you new hope? ;)

Quoting RossW on 16 Mar 2020 05:33 AM
How is going from EFI back to carb an "upgrade"?

Good point, it’s probably the biggest downgrade O can think of, much like
Moving to those Fat spokes,
Sticking in a 240 rear,
Raking the front end,
V&H Big Radius 2-2,
24” Apes,
none enhance performance but we’re mostly guilty of it at some stage.

Wideglider
4 years ago

Quoting micathia on 15 Mar 2020 07:35 AM

Does this give you new hope? ;)

Quoting RossW on 16 Mar 2020 05:33 AM
How is going from EFI back to carb an "upgrade"?

True, not an upgrade. If your bike is carb nothing wrong there - my Evo been running with carb no issues for 24 years. Overhauled it only twice, not because had issues but just thought I should as part of maintenance, enjoyed doing it because I learnt a little.
If a had an EFI bike though it would stay that way, far superior setup with performance and options for tuning etc.

speedzter
4 years ago

Don't get me wrong, I would never convert an M8 to a Carb' , but regarding performance, a decent Carb setup will be a very close
match to EFI.
Ease of tuning, I would give it to the Carb'. You will never get perfect fueling, but there are also a lot of bad EFI tunes out there !
Ride-ability and cold start etc' , EFI hands down.

Wideglider
4 years ago

Agree, ease of tuning the carb is an art I enjoy & it wins for me, but not everyone can or is interested in tackling that. New boys just want to tune EFI by plugging in their laptop (or Bluetooth with mobile) and of course this is the future (I plugin to adjust my aftermarket ignition map).

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