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  • Hilly
    Hilly
    15 days ago
    Since this thread seems to have turned into some sort of political come ideological sky news talk show I will ask this, if the boats stop coming how long before the lights go out? It's rhetorical, I know the answer.
    Think about it, as an island nation we really need to be on the front line of alternative energy sources that don't rely on imported oil, it's a national security issue as currently we are vulnerable, very even.
    Net Zero is a pipe dream but if the pursuit of it is dragging us towards energy self sustainability that is not reliant on bulk carriers they can dream all they like as far as I'm concerned.
  • dicko
    dicko
    15 days ago
    Simple question? Is it really generating electricity from coal that is Fucking the earth/??
  • Stuart
    Stuart
    14 days ago
    Quoting dicko on 24 Jun 2025 09:06 AM

    Simple question? Is it really generating electricity from coal that is Fucking the earth/??

    In my simplistic view most of the problems come back to 8 billion - and counting - people eating the place alive :-)
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    14 days ago
    Quoting dicko on 24 Jun 2025 09:06 AM

    Simple question? Is it really generating electricity from coal that is Fucking the earth/??

    Quoting Stuart on 24 Jun 2025 08:22 PMedited: 24 Jun 2025 08:23 PM

    In my simplistic view most of the problems come back to 8 billion - and counting - people eating the place alive :-)

    Absolutely spot on. Too many humans but everyone wants to blame everything else.
  • evo94
    evo94
    13 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 24 Jun 2025 08:20 AM

    Since this thread seems to have turned into some sort of political come ideological sky news talk show I will ask this, if the boats stop coming how long before the lights go out? It's rhetorical, I know the answer.

    Think about it, as an island nation we really need to be on the front line of alternative energy sources that don't rely on imported oil, it's a national security issue as currently we are vulnerable, very even.
    Net Zero is a pipe dream but if the pursuit of it is dragging us towards energy self sustainability that is not reliant on bulk carriers they can dream all they like as far as I'm concerned.

    forgive me if i have misinterperated, but may i ask how the current "alternative energy sources" are improving National security when China controls almost all aspects of rare earths & is at present weaponising it in trade war ( fair enough btw with the West's pathetic tariffs / sanctions) - so now we have critical supply shortages, especially with our insatiable appetite for a wind turbine / solar panel or two....
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    12 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 24 Jun 2025 08:20 AM

    Since this thread seems to have turned into some sort of political come ideological sky news talk show I will ask this, if the boats stop coming how long before the lights go out? It's rhetorical, I know the answer.

    Think about it, as an island nation we really need to be on the front line of alternative energy sources that don't rely on imported oil, it's a national security issue as currently we are vulnerable, very even.
    Net Zero is a pipe dream but if the pursuit of it is dragging us towards energy self sustainability that is not reliant on bulk carriers they can dream all they like as far as I'm concerned.

    Quoting evo94 on 25 Jun 2025 08:58 PM

    forgive me if i have misinterperated, but may i ask how the current "alternative energy sources" are improving National security when China controls almost all aspects of rare earths & is at present weaponising it in trade war ( fair enough btw with the West's pathetic tariffs / sanctions) - so now we have critical supply shortages, especially with our insatiable appetite for a wind turbine / solar panel or two....

    It isn't, that's the problem, we have plenty of rare earths here, we need to change from exporting to building, we did build our own wind towers once, due to politics that was killed off, could be brought back though, we do make solar panels but import most, that could change, we can make our own batteries but currently not to the scale needed, labour are not interested in small nuclear plants, they should be, it takes resolve, I'm not holding my breath, my point was we should be invested in self sustainability in energy, all kinds, I dislike EV's as much as the next petrol head but if the super carriers stop coming this country will grind to a halt faster than many people realise.
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    12 days ago
    Quoting dicko on 24 Jun 2025 09:06 AM

    Simple question? Is it really generating electricity from coal that is Fucking the earth/??

    It's not that simple really, but according to everything I have ever read from scientists, burning coal is indeed hurting the planet, that's not an ideological or political stance it's just cold hard peer reviewed scientific fact as best as it can be at this time, whataboutism doesn't change that. That's as close to the rabbit hole as I'm gunna go.
  • evo94
    evo94
    10 days ago
    Quoting Hilly on 24 Jun 2025 08:20 AM

    Since this thread seems to have turned into some sort of political come ideological sky news talk show I will ask this, if the boats stop coming how long before the lights go out? It's rhetorical, I know the answer.

    Think about it, as an island nation we really need to be on the front line of alternative energy sources that don't rely on imported oil, it's a national security issue as currently we are vulnerable, very even.
    Net Zero is a pipe dream but if the pursuit of it is dragging us towards energy self sustainability that is not reliant on bulk carriers they can dream all they like as far as I'm concerned.

    Quoting evo94 on 25 Jun 2025 08:58 PM

    forgive me if i have misinterperated, but may i ask how the current "alternative energy sources" are improving National security when China controls almost all aspects of rare earths & is at present weaponising it in trade war ( fair enough btw with the West's pathetic tariffs / sanctions) - so now we have critical supply shortages, especially with our insatiable appetite for a wind turbine / solar panel or two....

    Quoting Hilly on 27 Jun 2025 09:47 AM

    It isn't, that's the problem, we have plenty of rare earths here, we need to change from exporting to building, we did build our own wind towers once, due to politics that was killed off, could be brought back though, we do make solar panels but import most, that could change, we can make our own batteries but currently not to the scale needed, labour are not interested in small nuclear plants, they should be, it takes resolve, I'm not holding my breath, my point was we should be invested in self sustainability in energy, all kinds, I dislike EV's as much as the next petrol head but if the super carriers stop coming this country will grind to a halt faster than many people realise.

    agree wholeheartedly - self sustainability - well at least a hell of a lot more then we currently are, would be wonderful....but i should imagine with our eco laws, it would be too cost prohibitive processing the likes of rare earths here - i mean isnt that why we send it all to the Asia atm so they process it while we sit pretty touting how clean we are coz it doesnt happen on our shores ?!?
    Nuclear? - on the fence with that one....was always against it, but need to learn more on current technologies.
    good Sunday all :)
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    10 days ago
    Quoting evo94 on 25 Jun 2025 08:58 PM

    forgive me if i have misinterperated, but may i ask how the current "alternative energy sources" are improving National security when China controls almost all aspects of rare earths & is at present weaponising it in trade war ( fair enough btw with the West's pathetic tariffs / sanctions) - so now we have critical supply shortages, especially with our insatiable appetite for a wind turbine / solar panel or two....

    Quoting Hilly on 27 Jun 2025 09:47 AM

    It isn't, that's the problem, we have plenty of rare earths here, we need to change from exporting to building, we did build our own wind towers once, due to politics that was killed off, could be brought back though, we do make solar panels but import most, that could change, we can make our own batteries but currently not to the scale needed, labour are not interested in small nuclear plants, they should be, it takes resolve, I'm not holding my breath, my point was we should be invested in self sustainability in energy, all kinds, I dislike EV's as much as the next petrol head but if the super carriers stop coming this country will grind to a halt faster than many people realise.

    Quoting evo94 on 28 Jun 2025 08:50 PM

    agree wholeheartedly - self sustainability - well at least a hell of a lot more then we currently are, would be wonderful....but i should imagine with our eco laws, it would be too cost prohibitive processing the likes of rare earths here - i mean isnt that why we send it all to the Asia atm so they process it while we sit pretty touting how clean we are coz it doesnt happen on our shores ?!?
    Nuclear? - on the fence with that one....was always against it, but need to learn more on current technologies.
    good Sunday all :)

    The main reason we send raw materials out for processing isn't because of some environmental impact slight of hand it's because while we can refine rare earths and are ramping up our refining capabilities now there was no economic or strategic reason to before, China was cheaper.
    Setting up rare earth refineries involves a huge capital investment in infrastructure and training, now our domestic market is increasing things are starting to happen.
    How China does things is not how it has to happen, they don't give a shit whereas we do so our set ups way the fuck better, Lynas Rare Earths refinery in Kalgoorlie is a case in point, the one Iluka Resources are building at Eneabba will be top notch as well, jobs for the boys and girls.

  • dicko
    dicko
    10 days ago
    Well it still has me bluffed why (since the government has changed our electrity "grid" to a providers, market operator, regulator, system), anyone would invest in companies which provide imtermittent inefficient electric power.???? We (taxpayers) have been conned. 
  • Hilly
    Hilly
    10 days ago
    Quoting dicko on 29 Jun 2025 05:01 AMedited: 29 Jun 2025 05:02 AM

    Well it still has me bluffed why (since the government has changed our electrity "grid" to a providers, market operator, regulator, system), anyone would invest in companies which provide imtermittent inefficient electric power.???? We (taxpayers) have been conned. 

    Dunno, must be money in it or they wouldn't be investing, seen this article today, the government doesn't want too much Chinese influence in our rare earth industry, good to see they are taking that seriously at least.

    Australia sues China-linked rare earth investors - MINING.COM https://share.google/RHgWzJpeQtOp7ytrB
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    9 days ago
    See the first and now last paper mill in Australia in Hobart is a strong chance of closing. The new owner has been encouraged to swap the coal fired boilers for electric ones ,problem is Hydro Tassie cant give them the required power. Victoria can supply at a much higher charge of course. The Granville Harbor wind farm cant help much either. The new owner is faced with possible closing the mill
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    9 days ago
    Last Saturday, all 39 million Californians got 100% of their energy from renewable sources for 9 straight hours.....LOL

  • obisteve
    obisteve
    8 days ago
    Quoting dicko on 29 Jun 2025 05:01 AMedited: 29 Jun 2025 05:02 AM

    Well it still has me bluffed why (since the government has changed our electrity "grid" to a providers, market operator, regulator, system), anyone would invest in companies which provide imtermittent inefficient electric power.???? We (taxpayers) have been conned. 

    You'd have to ask the citizens of NSW why they voted to do that in a state referendum, Qld didn't sell off most of its generation assets, still owns 5 of the 8 coal fired generators in the state; Victoria, who cares?
    It wouldn't have happened if Joe Stalin had been running the Oz power industry at the time.
    As a side note on the current value of the most recently built (2009) coal fired power station in Oz, the Bluewaters one in WA, the owner Sumitomo has written its asset value off to $0.00. If you're really keen to keep coal going, offer their debt financers one hundred bucks, it will be the best offer they'll get.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    8 days ago
    Well it seems like we are starting to get the message about renewables....gas is back reluctantly 

  • Hilly
    Hilly
    7 days ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 01 Jul 2025 10:57 AM

    Well it seems like we are starting to get the message about renewables....gas is back reluctantly 


    video
    Sky News will rot your brain like pulling on an ice pipe.
    Gas is a crucial transition fuel source, transition to what is yet undecided 😂
  • dicko
    dicko
    7 days ago
    No good "transitioning" to intermittent power. Must have a reliable 24/7/grid.
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