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  • Ken in Cairns
    Ken in Cairns
    4 years ago
    That's about 2.4 Kw Tussuck.
    I have yet to fit one, just run extension cords and switched plug board. On my list to do but other shit keeps gets priority.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Well even though we are still under light intermittent showers the boys fronted at 6.50am and are hard at the install. Both inverters done in around 45min and now the endless supply of panels headed onto the roof.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ken in Cairns on 05 Feb 2020 02:16 AM

    That's about 2.4 Kw Tussuck.

    I have yet to fit one, just run extension cords and switched plug board. On my list to do but other shit keeps gets priority.

    Yep.  Have a socket wired into the switchboard and then run a 15Amp extension to the genny.  Power two fridges and and a 2.5kw aircon, which is all we want it to do.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 06 Feb 2020 11:15 PM

    Well even though we are still under light intermittent showers the boys fronted at 6.50am and are hard at the install. Both inverters done in around 45min and now the endless supply of panels headed onto the roof.

    Well panels done power to the investors and now wait for Energex to come and fit the smart meter.....still about 2 weeks away from freedom 
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 06 Feb 2020 11:15 PM

    Well even though we are still under light intermittent showers the boys fronted at 6.50am and are hard at the install. Both inverters done in around 45min and now the endless supply of panels headed onto the roof.

    Quoting paulybronco on 07 Feb 2020 10:43 AM

    Well panels done power to the investors and now wait for Energex to come and fit the smart meter.....still about 2 weeks away from freedom 

    This was post on Cairns facebook this morning 

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 06 Feb 2020 11:15 PM

    Well even though we are still under light intermittent showers the boys fronted at 6.50am and are hard at the install. Both inverters done in around 45min and now the endless supply of panels headed onto the roof.

    Quoting paulybronco on 07 Feb 2020 10:43 AM

    Well panels done power to the investors and now wait for Energex to come and fit the smart meter.....still about 2 weeks away from freedom 

    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2020 08:12 PM

    This was post on Cairns facebook this morning 

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  • bloodog
    bloodog
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 07 Feb 2020 10:43 AM

    Well panels done power to the investors and now wait for Energex to come and fit the smart meter.....still about 2 weeks away from freedom 

    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2020 08:12 PM

    This was post on Cairns facebook this morning 

    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PM

    ?

    Well I thought it was interesting 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2020 08:12 PM

    This was post on Cairns facebook this morning 

    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PM

    ?

    Quoting bloodog on 17 Feb 2020 11:27 PM

    Well I thought it was interesting 

    Sorry mate i take zero out of baseless mindless facebook morons. 
  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    Just in the process off looking to get solar , first quote , was 6000 dollars for a 6.3 klw , from  origin , and a 23 cents   payback  ,, not sure how it works but i use on average 20 kw  per day , they sai  it will produce 30 kw in summer and about 15 in winter .. my bills average about 800 per quarter , they said the bills should drop to around 250 ... Alls i know is , fook knows , its too hard for my brain the info there throwing at me

    I do know all the info is different , one mob  , said don't go bigger cos if i produce to much elec to go back they limit the amount  you put back so bigger is a waste of money ,, another mob said go bigger  and go has high has you can afford ,cos the limit will not be reached   they said  if you use 20 and produce , 40 , the 20 used will bring it down to an acceptable level  ,, the other mob said  bullshit    push it in and forever be at the top end ,, course that bigger system is gonna  cost more ,,,

    all in all its a bigger headache than the security cameras i'm having installed  now theres a nightmare ,,, , fella quoted me on    a  system , and puts in a completly different one when i queried him , his answer was there the same just re badged ,,  i done my homework on the net , and told him today ,    yep relize there from the same manufacturer , but there different prices in fact 750 dollars cheaper for me too buy    myself ,, so  afraid he's been told today , rip them out and put the ones he quoted me for OR drop the price 750 . Guy is actually quite thick for an intellegent fella ,,  he agrees  there  not  what he quoted for , he can't deny the prices i shown him on the net   are  750 - 800 dollars  less , for the kit , but insists there the same camera , cos there from the same manufacturer  , and can't get his head around some companys make a  cheaper product  even when i told him to ring the company and they will tell him , Idiot can't  see why i got the shits ,, i told him you said Dahua are the only ones you use , and quoted me 2000 for cameras , 800 for instal ,  not bad for a days work ,, then whan i come home the cameras are securview ,  and i can buy them WITHOUT  a trade discount for 1200 ,,, So told him take them out and replace them with Dahua ,, his answer was   i've  done all the wiring  and it won't match the dahua cameras ,   I say ERR DERR well that tells you there not the same ,  and he still argues they are because the rep told him so , i argue , i've rang the manufacturer and he  tells me there made at the same place but some different  obviously cheaper components .

    Fook what a headache , anyway  had to finish off the convo with  , take them out and replace them with the system quoted or  knock off the 800 dollars   difference ,   or just take the lot out and fook off
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 19 Feb 2020 11:49 AM

    Just in the process off looking to get solar , first quote , was 6000 dollars for a 6.3 klw , from  origin , and a 23 cents   payback  ,, not sure how it works but i use on average 20 kw  per day , they sai  it will produce 30 kw in summer and about 15 in winter .. my bills average about 800 per quarter , they said the bills should drop to around 250 ... Alls i know is , fook knows , its too hard for my brain the info there throwing at me

    I do know all the info is different , one mob  , said don't go bigger cos if i produce to much elec to go back they limit the amount  you put back so bigger is a waste of money ,, another mob said go bigger  and go has high has you can afford ,cos the limit will not be reached   they said  if you use 20 and produce , 40 , the 20 used will bring it down to an acceptable level  ,, the other mob said  bullshit    push it in and forever be at the top end ,, course that bigger system is gonna  cost more ,,,

    all in all its a bigger headache than the security cameras i'm having installed  now theres a nightmare ,,, , fella quoted me on    a  system , and puts in a completly different one when i queried him , his answer was there the same just re badged ,,  i done my homework on the net , and told him today ,    yep relize there from the same manufacturer , but there different prices in fact 750 dollars cheaper for me too buy    myself ,, so  afraid he's been told today , rip them out and put the ones he quoted me for OR drop the price 750 . Guy is actually quite thick for an intellegent fella ,,  he agrees  there  not  what he quoted for , he can't deny the prices i shown him on the net   are  750 - 800 dollars  less , for the kit , but insists there the same camera , cos there from the same manufacturer  , and can't get his head around some companys make a  cheaper product  even when i told him to ring the company and they will tell him , Idiot can't  see why i got the shits ,, i told him you said Dahua are the only ones you use , and quoted me 2000 for cameras , 800 for instal ,  not bad for a days work ,, then whan i come home the cameras are securview ,  and i can buy them WITHOUT  a trade discount for 1200 ,,, So told him take them out and replace them with Dahua ,, his answer was   i've  done all the wiring  and it won't match the dahua cameras ,   I say ERR DERR well that tells you there not the same ,  and he still argues they are because the rep told him so , i argue , i've rang the manufacturer and he  tells me there made at the same place but some different  obviously cheaper components .

    Fook what a headache , anyway  had to finish off the convo with  , take them out and replace them with the system quoted or  knock off the 800 dollars   difference ,   or just take the lot out and fook off

    What state are you in...... hint....confused is not the answer i am trying to get here
  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    south aust

  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    Actually Pauly , just got off the phone from a mate , he worked at a leading electrical company , that sells  solar , i asked him the best and he recommended origin straight away ,,, He explained that when he was working at this place , customers would buy , installers would instal and when there was a problem ,  the installer would 9 out of 10 blame the equipment , the manufacturer would ignore it and / or blame the installer , and he would cop abuse ,  because has the seller , they had a responsibility but manufacterers would fob it off ,,, So he said he just went with Origin  they supplied and fitted and they gauranteed  the work and the product ,, he said he was glad because he did have a fire in his roof space  , which was caused by a faulty something or other , and Origin fixed and replaced everything  including the damage , And too be honest  they gave me a price straight away within a couple of hours with everything detailed , i've looked at the stuff there reccomending and it seems to be the good sttuff ,, I'll wait for the other quotes and make my mind up  , but if i buy with them and change to them has provider there offer is a 23 cents  kw  buy back and i've been told thats good
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 19 Feb 2020 12:42 PM

    Actually Pauly , just got off the phone from a mate , he worked at a leading electrical company , that sells  solar , i asked him the best and he recommended origin straight away ,,, He explained that when he was working at this place , customers would buy , installers would instal and when there was a problem ,  the installer would 9 out of 10 blame the equipment , the manufacturer would ignore it and / or blame the installer , and he would cop abuse ,  because has the seller , they had a responsibility but manufacterers would fob it off ,,, So he said he just went with Origin  they supplied and fitted and they gauranteed  the work and the product ,, he said he was glad because he did have a fire in his roof space  , which was caused by a faulty something or other , and Origin fixed and replaced everything  including the damage , And too be honest  they gave me a price straight away within a couple of hours with everything detailed , i've looked at the stuff there reccomending and it seems to be the good sttuff ,, I'll wait for the other quotes and make my mind up  , but if i buy with them and change to them has provider there offer is a 23 cents  kw  buy back and i've been told thats good

    Just a few quick points for you to ask yourself.......why is the feed in tariff more for the exact same system for their install over the same equipment installed by someone else on their grid.......the impression you give is that other companies wont warrant their products, bearing in mind origin themselves are only a power provider, they use exactly the same panels as other installers. As for a fire in the roof i am not sure about you but i think that's rather alarming regardless of the origin (sorry about the pun)  There is no electrical devices etc other than the panel wiring inside my roof cavity so unsure what part malfunctioned in your mates roof.
    After listening to some great advise, and some no so great advice and researching the crap out of it i have gone with a mega system consisting of mid range panels and upper midrange converters. Still waiting for smart meter connection but have had it up and running and it hammers out the power.  
    Good luck with your choice but consider my very first point

  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    Got know idea why the tarrif feed is more ,, Only know Origin  said IF i have them install and IF i change to them they will give me 23 cents  kw   others from what i can see offer around 14c .kw

    Regards what set on fire a i don't know ,  i'm not saying anyone does or does'nt stand by there warranty , , but he said  when he worked at the electrical suppliers , it was a nightmare for him behind the counter , because they sold the product to the installer , and were in effect a middle man who always got caught in the middle , when some manufactureres said it  was'nt there warranty issue and installers blamed the manufacturer  ect ect ,He told me that one company they used to stock , actually told customers , before they fix under warranty , they have to be inspected , so the customer was told to send them back to china at his own cost to be inspected . , He just said Origin is a big company and its one stop , for everything . .

    Still trying to get my head round it all , i'm looking at a 6. 3 system of origin , couple of others  offering 6.6  all within 100 bucks of each other  , all using supposodly good stuff ,  one suggest lg panels fronius  inverter ,,,,, another canadian  solar i think it is and fronius   inverter ,,,,,, origin  trina honey panals and  goodwe inverter .

    All from what i can gather are good brands ,,, but now the conflict comes when one is   telling me  no go a 7,7 kwl  system and get rrid of bills entirly ,,  the other is saying you don't need it because theres a limit on the tarriff  and 6.6 will drop my bills from 800 qtr to around 200 qrt ,   and the 7.7 system is 4 grand more  so not worth it . Because when i hit a certain amount they will not pay

    Fook its an headache just listening to them ,  what system did you get
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 20 Feb 2020 09:10 PMedited: 20 Feb 2020 09:13 PM

    Got know idea why the tarrif feed is more ,, Only know Origin  said IF i have them install and IF i change to them they will give me 23 cents  kw   others from what i can see offer around 14c .kw

    Regards what set on fire a i don't know ,  i'm not saying anyone does or does'nt stand by there warranty , , but he said  when he worked at the electrical suppliers , it was a nightmare for him behind the counter , because they sold the product to the installer , and were in effect a middle man who always got caught in the middle , when some manufactureres said it  was'nt there warranty issue and installers blamed the manufacturer  ect ect ,He told me that one company they used to stock , actually told customers , before they fix under warranty , they have to be inspected , so the customer was told to send them back to china at his own cost to be inspected . , He just said Origin is a big company and its one stop , for everything . .

    Still trying to get my head round it all , i'm looking at a 6. 3 system of origin , couple of others  offering 6.6  all within 100 bucks of each other  , all using supposodly good stuff ,  one suggest lg panels fronius  inverter ,,,,, another canadian  solar i think it is and fronius   inverter ,,,,,, origin  trina honey panals and  goodwe inverter .

    All from what i can gather are good brands ,,, but now the conflict comes when one is   telling me  no go a 7,7 kwl  system and get rrid of bills entirly ,,  the other is saying you don't need it because theres a limit on the tarriff  and 6.6 will drop my bills from 800 qtr to around 200 qrt ,   and the 7.7 system is 4 grand more  so not worth it . Because when i hit a certain amount they will not pay

    Fook its an headache just listening to them ,  what system did you get

    13.2kw .  48x Astro energy panels and 2x growatt 5kw inverters. We got a non solar bill yesterday $950 so roll on getting the panels hooked to the system. 
    Lastly lets talk briefly about warranty....any warranty this goes for your fridge your tv ANYTHING in fact. The buyer has the rights under the act to ask for any of the three "R"s....Replace...Refund....Repair and thats at the discretion of the buyer in the case of a faulty goods or products. ANY supplier that does not know this or adhere to it is breaking the law and liable for a massive fine. Rule of thumb, if you sell a product your therefore deemed to be endorsing the product and therefore liable. The problem is between  the vendor and the supplier not the vendor and customer. 
  • boxa
    boxa
    4 years ago
    13,2 kw  , There telling me theres a  limit on what you can put in , basicly if i go over   a 6.6 klw system it peaks at 5000 klw i can put in and get paid for , above that i'm losing , so tere basicly saying spending the money on a unit your size is throwing money away , above 5 kw invertor pparantly were penalized suppose differnt states different rules

  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 21 Feb 2020 12:34 PM

    13,2 kw  , There telling me theres a  limit on what you can put in , basicly if i go over   a 6.6 klw system it peaks at 5000 klw i can put in and get paid for , above that i'm losing , so tere basicly saying spending the money on a unit your size is throwing money away , above 5 kw invertor pparantly were penalized suppose differnt states different rules

    you can only export 5Kw so any power generation will be used by you. (dwelling)
    unless you are a business or 3 phase then you can export more
    If I had to start again, I would go with the 6.6Kw, and likely put on the 13Kw Battery

    I am with origin, 3Kw system but got a 4Kw inverter ($18,000) I am on 0.54c Kw for the next 14 years original contract 2004
    will be putting on the extra Kw soon but I can go past that or will lose the good rate
    my bill range from $250 to -$250
    I run 8kw aircon during the day until I go to bed then the 2Kw aircon over night, or both when I am night shift
    October to March the pool filter 6 hours 3 days a week

    yes $18,000
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 21 Feb 2020 12:34 PM

    13,2 kw  , There telling me theres a  limit on what you can put in , basicly if i go over   a 6.6 klw system it peaks at 5000 klw i can put in and get paid for , above that i'm losing , so tere basicly saying spending the money on a unit your size is throwing money away , above 5 kw invertor pparantly were penalized suppose differnt states different rules

    You kinda on the right track here. In Qld you can run a 10kw system in a residential home.....so why is there 13.2kw of panels on the roof you ask......this is to cover the fact that NO PANELS can be 100% efficient and produce maximum kw all the time. Regardless of the production of the panels each system is restricted to 5kw power production thats the max the inverter will put back into the grid times two as i have both systems
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 21 Feb 2020 12:34 PM

    13,2 kw  , There telling me theres a  limit on what you can put in , basicly if i go over   a 6.6 klw system it peaks at 5000 klw i can put in and get paid for , above that i'm losing , so tere basicly saying spending the money on a unit your size is throwing money away , above 5 kw invertor pparantly were penalized suppose differnt states different rules

    Quoting paulybronco on 21 Feb 2020 10:44 PM

    You kinda on the right track here. In Qld you can run a 10kw system in a residential home.....so why is there 13.2kw of panels on the roof you ask......this is to cover the fact that NO PANELS can be 100% efficient and produce maximum kw all the time. Regardless of the production of the panels each system is restricted to 5kw power production thats the max the inverter will put back into the grid times two as i have both systems

    and

    they say by putting the bigger Kw panal over the say 5Kw inverter makes them more optimum performance, apparently they work better

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 21 Feb 2020 12:34 PM

    13,2 kw  , There telling me theres a  limit on what you can put in , basicly if i go over   a 6.6 klw system it peaks at 5000 klw i can put in and get paid for , above that i'm losing , so tere basicly saying spending the money on a unit your size is throwing money away , above 5 kw invertor pparantly were penalized suppose differnt states different rules

    Quoting paulybronco on 21 Feb 2020 10:44 PM

    You kinda on the right track here. In Qld you can run a 10kw system in a residential home.....so why is there 13.2kw of panels on the roof you ask......this is to cover the fact that NO PANELS can be 100% efficient and produce maximum kw all the time. Regardless of the production of the panels each system is restricted to 5kw power production thats the max the inverter will put back into the grid times two as i have both systems

    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 21 Feb 2020 11:16 PM

    and

    they say by putting the bigger Kw panal over the say 5Kw inverter makes them more optimum performance, apparently they work better

    Well seems as though i got in the nick of time......there is a big holdup now in panels coming to Aust due to Corona virus disrupting supply. Same with car batteries and furniture
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