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boxa
4 years ago
Final analasyst ,,,,, Well up to the workshop this morning , Told the guy handling i'm happy comfort too harsh ,,, no probs he adjusted the rebound i think it was , I rode out done the excact route has yesterday , I found the front the same , a lot firmer , heavier , and more responsive , same has yesterday ,,
The rear , its hard to explain but i found it softer , but still felt bumps , not has bad , yesterday i would get a jar i could feel in my tailbone , just the same has the normal shocks , today it sort of bounced , i would hit a bump and i did look for them , and felt a bounce or two , but definetly not a jar ,,, I noticed that straight away ,,,, anyway took it for a long run on my favorite roads , same has i done yesterday , and it was a lot better , hit a bump and feel it a bit not gliding over like i was hoping , like i used to do on my rocket tourer but not a jarring bump either , sort of half way where i was hoping .
So i took it along bull creek road and all round sraph and meadows , and once again in the twisty stuff it handled fantastic , no more wallowing , no more bouncing if you got excited and spirited in a ben , hust went where it was pointed , hit some bends i used to wallow on and looked down found i was speeding not relizing my entry and exit was a lot fater than pre work done .
So i went home , , got home and thought front worth it , hell yeh 100% ,, back shockers worth it , performance 100% , comfort well i had misgivings , thinking i could of got better than standard , for half the price , but given the performance , got to give it worth it 80 % , so all in all reasonably pleaesd , just thinking should of maybee took my own advice i gave my mate , which was ,, you want tourer comfort buy a tourer not a low rider . but overall got a better performing bike so yeh was worth the money .
So sat down , had a coffee and the wife said , whats it like with the touring seat , dunno i said , , When i got the bike i bought the sundowner seat for her , but she does'nt ride anymore so its hardly been used , , i don't put it on like the look of the standard seat ..
So anyway , i say , i'll try it back in a minuite , went to the garage , 1 minuite the sundowner is on , looked over at the screen and thought why not , got an ugly seat may has well put on a ugly screen , its comfort not looks i want on this ride ,
So i took off , about 5 minuites into the ride , i'm thinking wheres the bumps , i looked for them and it was fantastic , done the same ride has i done this morning and yesterday , and could'nt believe how comfortable , that extra couple inches of padding absorbed everything , bad bumps were just a gentle bounce , and i looked for every bump i knew just could'nt get it to jar or make me complain , whats more the performance was still there ,,
The sundowner seat though it transformed the bike , because i sat a little higher , and the seat brought me forward a bit , it actually made my pegs more mid mount what i like , ,, honestly the lowrider , was suddnly more comfortable that my old rocket toure , which i might add also had a touring seat and Ikon shocks upgrade , It actually felt like a completly different bike than the one i rode in the morning ,, I feel now like i've got EXCATLY what i want ,, i've got the low seat height low rider that looks cool and handles way waay better , than standard , with a bit more comfort , and i change seats and have a real comfortable tourer , so am i happy yeas i am .
The front end is a must , i reckon at a push you could get away with possibly cheaper shocks if you buy a better than standard seat , but really a top line shock which these are suppossed to be is probably not bad value at $1350 .
One thing i will say is this , i'm not a hard enough or i suppose good enough rider that i reaqlly should of noticed a difference ,, but after this transformation , i did notice , and come to relize i was riding the bike to suit the bike , changed things over and in the bends i was constantly having to tell myself to slow down . Like i said i'm not someone who pushes the envelope , but the upgrade is definetly more confidence inspiring suppose i just feel safer ,, so for when the standard seat is on ,, i feel safer ,, when the toring seat is on i feel safer and more comfortable ,,, is the upgrade worth $2300 ,, shit yeh , should of done it years ago , then i could of had the perfect bike , instead of spending thousads changing bikes looking for the perfect one
Ken in Cairns
4 years ago
Really glad you got it sorted mate.
Excellent outcome.
The sundowner seat is definitely a lot more comfortable than the stock one.
I tried my stock one to see what it was like, lasted into town and back, hard and unforgiving is an understatement.
There is probably a little bit more fine tuning you could do, but the units you have are fixed in compression rate, so that does limit what can be achieved.
As long as you have found a balance you can live with comfort and performance wise that is the ideal outcome.
Now go and enjoy :)
Cheers
Ken
boxa
4 years ago
Quoting Ken in Cairns on 11 Feb 2020 05:06 PM
Really glad you got it sorted mate.
Excellent outcome.
The sundowner seat is definitely a lot more comfortable than the stock one.
I tried my stock one to see what it was like, lasted into town and back, hard and unforgiving is an understatement.
There is probably a little bit more fine tuning you could do, but the units you have are fixed in compression rate, so that does limit what can be achieved.
As long as you have found a balance you can live with comfort and performance wise that is the ideal outcome.
Now go and enjoy :)
Cheers
Ken
Yeh Ken real happy with it now ,, shoulf of done it years ago ,
Ken in Cairns
4 years ago
Yep, best thing I have done on mine too.
Can't wait to get home and take a few days off somewhere, hopefully the rain should have stopped by then.
Steve L
4 years ago
Quoting boxa on 20 Jan 2020 10:43 PM
edited: 20 Jan 2020 10:54 PM
Pretty much got it summed up what i'm after and want , . Its a hard one theres so many too choose from with so many variations in price .. The place of choice for me was a local guy , who like i said has worked on all my bikes , but he's fairly adamant on a few things ,, He will not put racetech front end with the gold valves , instead he insists that you put ohlins back back and front or ktech back and front ,, but thats just TOOOO expensive
Anyway to keep it simple i decided to go racetech on front and one or the other on back ,, One thing that has become constant with who i talk to is i don't need the expensive piggy back stuff , a few i've spoke to have all said if you have back issusses and really need that extra bit of dial in , go the piggy back otherwise its overkill , this was confirmed by Ken .
For the front theres a couple around by me who do the race tech , prices i've got range from $750 to $850 , not bad and that price seems consistant whoever you ring , its around the mark , , , theres 2 guys near me , the 750 one works from home , just started up , the 850 guy has been there in his work shop for years , employs an apprentice , so i'm gonna opt to go with him simply because for 100 bucks it helps out a local buisness pay there rent , most except for my normal mechanic who sprouts the ohlins ktech only say race tech , gold valve emulaters ect are the way to go .
When it comes down to rear shocks that makes it harder ,, overkill is what i need to be aware of , i'm no Mick doohan and its a harley not a haybuska on the track , so i seem to be offered a lot of choices , decided Ohlins or ktech , everyone says theres up there and the best , , Now my local guy who highly recomends them , is the same price has everyone else for the Ktech he says 1450 fitted , but his price on the ohlins is $650 -$750 dollars more than others , others are quoting 1700 -1850 fitted , he quotes , $2500 fitted , , but he says to me k tech at $1450 are the way i should go , a lot don't deal in them but all say there very good , so i might go that way .
Other interesting thing is the guy i'm gonna get to do the front end reccomends hagon nitro , not the piggy back the normal ones with a 10 mill oversize , and there $85 fitte3d .
worth noting for some of you , a few people suggested i put on yss , cos they deal with them , and quoted around the $!600 dollar mark ,, but yss direct sells a front end and rear shock kit for $1000 , plus $200 for heavy duty .
So all in all you ring around , try and do your homework and the options and prices vary so much you or at least i did get an headache , and confuse yourself , thats why i've decided , not to go with the yss and save heaps , or the hagons and save heaps , i'm gonna stick to either ohlins or ktech .
But what i am gonna do , cos i think its only fair is my local guy who like i said done 3 services for me , and worked on my rocket gearbox in the last 12 months , i'm gonna go in and ask him to explain why he's actually $650 and $800 dearer than two others for the same shock who knows , maybee he is getting his ass spanked by Ohlins he's a reccomended dealer for them they may be charging him heaps more , it does happen , i found when i was working my supplier was charging me around 20 % more than guys buying a quarter of what i was , i was constantly having to check and re check , I'' let him know , if the response is a so what he can get stuffed , he'll lose my buisness altogether .
PS , You REALLY REALLY should phone around , because for the same shock it was not unusual to find $300 - $500 variations in price , most did'nt kow or want to tell me EXCATLY what model shock i was getting , after doing homework , thats when i started to relize the big differences in price
ex .. hagons nitron , non piggy ,, one mob $1200 , my local guy $885
Yss $1600 direct to yss $750 or a full front and back kit for $1000
Ohlins stx 36 blacklines series 762 ,, one mob . $1600 ---- someone else $1750 ... elsewhere , $2500 , with the ohlin distributer being the expensive one
Do your homework or get your arse spanked
I got Joe to do my Streetglide, i did Racetech in the front and the cheaper K tech rears. It was a few years ago and from memory was about $2k fitted. He set it up for me but i continued to fine tune it and was happy with the result. I did used to push the big girl on occasions. ??
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