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Final drive belt tension.

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  • PappaSmurf
    PappaSmurf
    2 years ago
    I know it’s been a long time since your post, but do you happen to remember the tension given for the Gates Krikit gauge. I have one of those and it I think it would be far easier to check the belt tension with one of those.
  • Neale
    Neale
    2 years ago
    Is it just me or does the belt tension on an M8 seem to be tighter than that of an old twin cam like my 08 Electra glide.
    I asked the dealership when I bought my M8 heritage new and they said it was where it should be.
    I know that if I ran my EG belt that tight it would make the tranny howl.
    Dunno if it’s some new design or not.
  • Ultramick
    Ultramick
    2 years ago
    Quoting Neale on 06 Apr 2023 09:39 AM

    Is it just me or does the belt tension on an M8 seem to be tighter than that of an old twin cam like my 08 Electra glide.

    I asked the dealership when I bought my M8 heritage new and they said it was where it should be.
    I know that if I ran my EG belt that tight it would make the tranny howl.
    Dunno if it’s some new design or not.

    That's right Neale, it is tighter on the M8s. ( Not sure if the Heritage set up is the same as the EGs)  Without having a look at my manuals I know my 03, 07 and 2012 Ultras definitely had a looser tension. I do have one of HD belt tensioner gauges somewhere, prolly in my bottom drawer, but I don't use it any more. I just do it up tighter than I used to. Maybe my 2020 Ultra has about  10mm ?  I can check it for you if you want. When ever I remove and replace the rear wheel I use a bit of duct tape or masking tape from the swing arm to the axle cam washer, mark a straight line between the 2 parts, cut the tape at the gap and line the marks up when I replace the wheel. Dunno if that makes sense to you, but I know exactly what I mean ! 
  • Ultramick
    Ultramick
    2 years ago
    Just looked at my owners manual and for my 2020 Ultra the deflection should be 9.5 -14.3 mm.
    A 2020 standard  EG, Road Glide, Road King and Street Glide should all be 6.4 - 11.1 mm.
    Who knows why the difference and who knows why it is 14.3 or 11.1 mm. Surely 14 or 11 mm is near enough. I guess the computer said so and we are not to argue with them.
  • Neale
    Neale
    2 years ago
    Quoting Ultramick on 06 Apr 2023 11:57 PM

    Just looked at my owners manual and for my 2020 Ultra the deflection should be 9.5 -14.3 mm.

    A 2020 standard  EG, Road Glide, Road King and Street Glide should all be 6.4 - 11.1 mm.
    Who knows why the difference and who knows why it is 14.3 or 11.1 mm. Surely 14 or 11 mm is near enough. I guess the computer said so and we are not to argue with them.

    Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    2 years ago
    And cold not hot.  Do you have the presssure tool as well?

  • 408
    408
    2 years ago
    Quoting Ultramick on 06 Apr 2023 11:57 PM

    Just looked at my owners manual and for my 2020 Ultra the deflection should be 9.5 -14.3 mm.

    A 2020 standard  EG, Road Glide, Road King and Street Glide should all be 6.4 - 11.1 mm.
    Who knows why the difference and who knows why it is 14.3 or 11.1 mm. Surely 14 or 11 mm is near enough. I guess the computer said so and we are not to argue with them.


    You have to remember that the the Harley engineers come up with this stuff and they work with imperial measurements.
     9.5 mm is 3/8" and 14.3 mm is 9/16" so the requirement is for the setting to be within 3/32" either side of 15/32".
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    2 years ago
    I heard that a rule of thumb (if you do not have the gear) is to twist the belt to 90 degrees.... thats pretty close to the right tension. 
  • 408
    408
    2 years ago
    I've read 45°  mid run on the top and used that method to adjust the tension in the past.
    I checked with the tool against that method when I got one and it seems good.
    But everyone is going to have a different grip and twist strength.
  • Neale
    Neale
    2 years ago
    I’m probably just overthinking it.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    2 years ago
    Quoting 408 on 07 Apr 2023 10:51 PM

    I've read 45°  mid run on the top and used that method to adjust the tension in the past.
    I checked with the tool against that method when I got one and it seems good.
    But everyone is going to have a different grip and twist strength.

    "But everyone is going to have a different grip and twist strength."
    That is absolutely correct 408. Even on chain final drive bikes there was an ideal amount of play in the chain(according to the workshop manuals), measured half way between sprockets, BUT it never mentions how much force to put on it to get the play right.
    That is why in my opinion it is well worth the few bucks for the Harley tension tool.
  • Ultramick
    Ultramick
    2 years ago
    Quoting Neale on 08 Apr 2023 02:37 AM

    I’m probably just overthinking it.

    That's better than UNDER thinking it.
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