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  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Gday all 
    So I purchased a 2nd hand 2013 Softail standard only mod is exhaust that I put on. 
    What I need advice on is the following , I will try and make this as clear as possible 
    For the last week I have had a sound from primary case area which sounds  like a chain or bearing spinning with no load on it , over the last few days it has become louder as I can hear it as I past full body trucks on the motorway each morning.
     this afternoon I can feel a vibration in foot pegs , seat and handle bars.
    It comes on from 1800 rpm both on acceleration and decelleration. 
    Also the clutch is sometimes just as the lever is released and sometimes lever all the way out before it engages 

    Any ideas ??? 

    Thanks in advance 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    Assuming you have no warranty pop the primary cover off and see what falls out, could be clutch hub bearing failing.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    Christ, I would had the primary cover off at the first 'new noise'.  These things get bloody expensive bloody fast the longer they are left.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Sorry going the compensator
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    From what I have read up , could be a number of things. 
    It's booked in at local Harley dealer next week so await the outcome 
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    I had a mate come over and we were talking about the bike he had  a listen and he mentioned the clutch clunks when engaged he thinks it shouldn't be so loud. 
    Do they clunk when engaged loud enough to hear it over the loud pipes 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    Quoting Kris78 on 28 Nov 2019 07:02 AMedited: 28 Nov 2019 07:31 AM

    I had a mate come over and we were talking about the bike he had  a listen and he mentioned the clutch clunks when engaged he thinks it shouldn't be so loud. 

    Do they clunk when engaged loud enough to hear it over the loud pipes 

    They all do that......
    What do you think it is?
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting Kris78 on 28 Nov 2019 07:02 AMedited: 28 Nov 2019 07:31 AM

    I had a mate come over and we were talking about the bike he had  a listen and he mentioned the clutch clunks when engaged he thinks it shouldn't be so loud. 

    Do they clunk when engaged loud enough to hear it over the loud pipes 

    Quoting Grease Monkey on 28 Nov 2019 07:43 AM

    They all do that......

    What do you think it is?

    I'm not sure grease monkey ... 
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    4 years ago
    Quoting Kris78 on 27 Nov 2019 11:10 AM

    Gday all 

    So I purchased a 2nd hand 2013 Softail standard only mod is exhaust that I put on. 
    What I need advice on is the following , I will try and make this as clear as possible 
    For the last week I have had a sound from primary case area which sounds  like a chain or bearing spinning with no load on it , over the last few days it has become louder as I can hear it as I past full body trucks on the motorway each morning.
     this afternoon I can feel a vibration in foot pegs , seat and handle bars.
    It comes on from 1800 rpm both on acceleration and decelleration. 
    Also the clutch is sometimes just as the lever is released and sometimes lever all the way out before it engages 

    Any ideas ??? 

    Thanks in advance 

    Dare I say rear wheel bearing?
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    They all clunk... You can hear my Sporty go into first gear from the other side of the traffic lights.
    Just open the damn thing up...its only a few bolts and the anticipation is killing me.
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting Kris78 on 27 Nov 2019 11:10 AM

    Gday all 

    So I purchased a 2nd hand 2013 Softail standard only mod is exhaust that I put on. 
    What I need advice on is the following , I will try and make this as clear as possible 
    For the last week I have had a sound from primary case area which sounds  like a chain or bearing spinning with no load on it , over the last few days it has become louder as I can hear it as I past full body trucks on the motorway each morning.
     this afternoon I can feel a vibration in foot pegs , seat and handle bars.
    It comes on from 1800 rpm both on acceleration and decelleration. 
    Also the clutch is sometimes just as the lever is released and sometimes lever all the way out before it engages 

    Any ideas ??? 

    Thanks in advance 

    Quoting Daffy on 28 Nov 2019 09:45 PM

    Dare I say rear wheel bearing?

    Due to hearing the chain / bearing spinning sound while the bike is at idle  I'm not looking at wheel bearings.
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 28 Nov 2019 09:52 PMedited: 28 Nov 2019 09:53 PM

    They all clunk... You can hear my Sporty go into first gear from the other side of the traffic lights.

    Just open the damn thing up...its only a few bolts and the anticipation is killing me.

    Sorry I'm not talking about the clunk as 1st gear is selected 
    The clunk we herd was sitting at idle with the bike in gear and letting the clutch lever out and pulling back in quick 
    Like popping the clutch , the lever in and out  quickly. 

    I purchased MPP with the bike from the shop so unable to open it up , I'll let the Harley dealer deal with it 
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Hey Kris, it's not difficult to inspect inside there. But if you aren't comfortable with looking in there yourself, my advice would be don't ride it anymore before the HD guys look at it, I wouldn't even start it up to diagnose as you have been.
    Get it trailered to the dealer workshop.
     
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 29 Nov 2019 05:21 AM

    Hey Kris, it's not difficult to inspect inside there. But if you aren't comfortable with looking in there yourself, my advice would be don't ride it anymore before the HD guys look at it, I wouldn't even start it up to diagnose as you have been.
    Get it trailered to the dealer workshop.
     

    Cheers mate will do , I'm definitely no bike mechanic and it being my 1st Harley I'd rather leave it to the professionals. 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    4 years ago
    Kris , twin cam softail have a few chains in them, the primary, the two sets of cam drive chains & the chain that drives the Counterbalancer's. so could be anywhere. good luck.
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 29 Nov 2019 09:24 PM

    Kris , twin cam softail have a few chains in them, the primary, the two sets of cam drive chains & the chain that drives the Counterbalancer's. so could be anywhere. good luck.

    Cheers 
    It definitely sounds like it's in the primary. 

    It's at my local Harley dealer now , Tuesday I should have some news 
    For now I have an 883 to ride they were kind enough to let me use.

  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 years ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 29 Nov 2019 09:24 PM

    Kris , twin cam softail have a few chains in them, the primary, the two sets of cam drive chains & the chain that drives the Counterbalancer's. so could be anywhere. good luck.

    Quoting Kris78 on 30 Nov 2019 06:07 AM

    Cheers 

    It definitely sounds like it's in the primary. 

    It's at my local Harley dealer now , Tuesday I should have some news 
    For now I have an 883 to ride they were kind enough to let me use.

    Lucky!  Your not going to want the Softail back after blatting around on the AWESOME Sporty.
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 29 Nov 2019 09:24 PM

    Kris , twin cam softail have a few chains in them, the primary, the two sets of cam drive chains & the chain that drives the Counterbalancer's. so could be anywhere. good luck.

    Quoting Kris78 on 30 Nov 2019 06:07 AM

    Cheers 

    It definitely sounds like it's in the primary. 

    It's at my local Harley dealer now , Tuesday I should have some news 
    For now I have an 883 to ride they were kind enough to let me use.

    Quoting tussuck on 30 Nov 2019 08:42 AM

    Lucky!  Your not going to want the Softail back after blatting around on the AWESOME Sporty.

    Hahah maybe if I wasn't 6ft and 120keggs lol
  • Kris78
    Kris78
    4 years ago
    Got the bike back.... 
    So the 2 top mechanics at the Harley shop both rode my bike and they say nothing is wrong with it and they can't hear anything .... 
    With the vibration I feel from 2100 rpm , I was told to ride in a lower gear than I have and have the revs up high they say 3rd gear at 60k's. 
    I must be labouring the motor and gearbox I was told.

    Anyway a service is on the cards so ill pop the primary case and have a look. 
    Even my mum can hear the noisy spinning chain sound at idle.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    4 years ago
    Got the bike back....

    So the 2 top mechanics at the Harley shop both rode my bike and they say nothing is wrong with it and they can't hear anything ....

    Maybe there isn't anything wrong with it. How could 2 top mechanics be wrong?.
    A louder set of pipes might help put your mind at ease.
    it has become louder as I can hear it as I past full body trucks on the motorway each morning. Generally this is what happens even when there is nothing wrong with your bike. The sound bounces right off the truck and back into your ears. Bet you don't hear it if you go for a spin out on the Hay plains.
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