what external breathers to fit

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  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    finally looking at fitting external breathers/ catch cans to my 110 twin cam.
    after any options, thoughts, pro's & con's, issues etc etc
    thanks
  • mickle
    mickle
    5 years ago
    Quoting ralphski on 24 May 2019 12:15 AMedited: 24 May 2019 06:13 AM

    finally looking at fitting external breathers/ catch cans to my 110 twin cam.

    after any options, thoughts, pro's & con's, issues etc etc
    thanks

    Look at DK Customs.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Hi ralphski you’ve got me wondering about my 110. Do you have any specific issues with the HD system?
  • brash
    brash
    5 years ago

    running the DK external kit on my 110, routes to a horse shoe type with a breather.

    If you keep oil level in check, the filter just needs a clean out every service.

  • Birtyyy
    Birtyyy
    5 years ago
    as mentioned above DK Customs have heaps of options. I modified my S&S air filter by drilling and tapping as pictured and ran lines to a Golan catch can. Worked out pretty cheap and keeps oil out of my intake. Really depends on what air filter you're running though, some would be much easier than others.


  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 24 May 2019 12:55 AM

    Hi ralphski you’ve got me wondering about my 110. Do you have any specific issues with the HD system?



    the photo says it all.
    nearly 5000 k's since my re-built motor.
    T/B had black shit inside.
    should of put catch cans/breathers on straight away

  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    Oh, i haven't pulled the plugs yet.
    interested to see how shitty they are
  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    Quoting Birtyyy on 24 May 2019 01:25 AM

    as mentioned above DK Customs have heaps of options. I modified my S&S air filter by drilling and tapping as pictured and ran lines to a Golan catch can. Worked out pretty cheap and keeps oil out of my intake. Really depends on what air filter you're running though, some would be much easier than others.



    i don't have that option to drill & tap.
    i have 58mm SE ( 29607-08 ) plastic gear
  • mickle
    mickle
    5 years ago
    Quoting ralphski on 24 May 2019 06:04 AM

    Oh, i haven't pulled the plugs yet.

    interested to see how shitty they are

    I guess you had a look at the video I put on Fuckbook? your plugs will be oiled.
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    You can do a lot to improve the system and make it far more efficient, but, and there is always a but, if there is an engine issue that is causing oil to be pushed out then even routing to a catch can is just a band-aid, I send mine to ground, not a drop, bit rushed tonight but can do a bit more on it if anyone wants to know.
  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 24 May 2019 08:04 AM

    You can do a lot to improve the system and make it far more efficient, but, and there is always a but, if there is an engine issue that is causing oil to be pushed out then even routing to a catch can is just a band-aid, I send mine to ground, not a drop, bit rushed tonight but can do a bit more on it if anyone wants to know.

    couple of mates run breather lines exciting in front of the rear tyre
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 24 May 2019 12:55 AM

    Hi ralphski you’ve got me wondering about my 110. Do you have any specific issues with the HD system?

    Quoting ralphski on 24 May 2019 06:00 AMedited: 24 May 2019 06:02 AM



    the photo says it all.
    nearly 5000 k's since my re-built motor.
    T/B had black shit inside.
    should of put catch cans/breathers on straight away

    Jeeze mate got me thinking,  so I pulled the assembly off my 2009 CVO 110, it was clean inside.
    Maybe one drip of oil at the base of the throat.
    Wonder why yours is messy?
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    Quoting Birtyyy on 24 May 2019 01:25 AM

    as mentioned above DK Customs have heaps of options. I modified my S&S air filter by drilling and tapping as pictured and ran lines to a Golan catch can. Worked out pretty cheap and keeps oil out of my intake. Really depends on what air filter you're running though, some would be much easier than others.



    Quoting ralphski on 24 May 2019 06:09 AMedited: 24 May 2019 06:17 AM

    i don't have that option to drill & tap.

    i have 58mm SE ( 29607-08 ) plastic gear

    I thought the heavy breather backing plate was alloy? The one I had years ago was.
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 24 May 2019 08:04 AM

    You can do a lot to improve the system and make it far more efficient, but, and there is always a but, if there is an engine issue that is causing oil to be pushed out then even routing to a catch can is just a band-aid, I send mine to ground, not a drop, bit rushed tonight but can do a bit more on it if anyone wants to know.

    Quoting ralphski on 24 May 2019 10:56 AM

    couple of mates run breather lines exciting in front of the rear tyre

    I've got mine to the side, if it really dropped its guts I guess it could still coat the rear but I'd like to think I'd be onto it before it got to that stage.
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    Aside from the obvious which is the umbrella valves are a service item and can be faulty you can give them a hand if you are in the top end for say rocker lockers or indeed servicing the breathers. 
    The drain holes in the support plate are pretty small and can be rather ugly and cause the oil to pool rather than drain, if you drill them out to 1/8" and chamfer both sides it can help a lot.


  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    If you are going to the effort to drill and tap for external lines try and make the internal passages as big as possible, is drill out the hole in the breather bolt as much as you safely can and it's cross holes as well, then use fittings with internal bores that don't restrict that size, if you go to a Tee use a slightly larger bore on the single line, lots of ways to set this up, as long as the basics are ok then it comes down personal preference on how it looks, into a can or to ground is up to the individual, if you drag race at the strip you will need a can, legalities.
    I like the look of a solid line, smaller on the outside so it's less obtrusive to the eye, well at least for me.


  • brucefxdl
    brucefxdl
    5 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 24 May 2019 09:06 PM

    If you are going to the effort to drill and tap for external lines try and make the internal passages as big as possible, is drill out the hole in the breather bolt as much as you safely can and it's cross holes as well, then use fittings with internal bores that don't restrict that size, if you go to a Tee use a slightly larger bore on the single line, lots of ways to set this up, as long as the basics are ok then it comes down personal preference on how it looks, into a can or to ground is up to the individual, if you drag race at the strip you will need a can, legalities.

    I like the look of a solid line, smaller on the outside so it's less obtrusive to the eye, well at least for me.


    thats neat and tidy GM.
  • ralphski
    ralphski
    5 years ago
    yes GM backing plate is alloy,  the alloy is about as good as plastic.
    anyway, managed to score a Mid-USA breather kit part # 84303 
    need to take the backing plate to work and mill down the 2 breather tubes to accommodate the fitted Mid-USA breathers.
    also, need to tap out the 2 breather passages in the backing plate and plug with screws, then lock them in with 262 loctite


  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    That'll work, but, always a but aye, if it's a dripper you will notice it.
  • Bigfella
    Bigfella
    5 years ago
    GM, what sort of hose did you use? I like the lines of the 'set' going down to the bottom of the frame
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