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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Love or hate him and regardless of political persuasion he was a Aussie larrikin
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    I remember the day very well
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Admired him, called a spade a spade, didn't suffer fools gladly - a real 'bloke' (the days before PC bullshit). 
    At the same time we saw he was genuine & compassionate - his speech condemning the Tiananmen Square Massacre. 
    RIP. 
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    Reckon most of us did because back then turning up the day after no matter how sick you were was backing it up.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 16 May 2019 12:06 PM

    Reckon most of us did because back then turning up the day after no matter how sick you were was backing it up.

    Think its called work ethic
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    5 years ago

    I was just a kid at Port Pirie dogs and Bob was presenting the winning cup and making a speech, somebody in the crowd yelled out up the liberals.
    Bob just yelled back " yer right up the liberals "   

    RIP Bob Hawke Australian legend 
  • See you NT
    See you NT
    5 years ago
    Rest In Peace Bob. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
  • See you NT
    See you NT
    5 years ago



  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago

    A friend texted me last night.  ‘RIP Bobby’, it read, ‘they don’t make them like that anymore’.

    It was a cliché, but true nonetheless.

    ‘No’, I replied, ‘we don’t elect them like that anymore, either.’

    Bob Hawke was Prime Minister in my ‘formative years’. As befitted Australia at the time, ‘Hawkey’ was just as famous for sculling a yard class of beer in record time as he was for running the country. Legend. It sure won him some votes.

    The Hawke and Keating duo were a political force back in the 1980s and early 1990s. They made politics interesting. They made Labor into a party that stood for something. They were reformist, not ‘progressive’. They tried to put a structure in place to help the country create wealth, not just redistribute it.

    I wonder what Bob really thinks of the modern-day Labor Party, with their politics of envy, high taxes and environmental alliance with the Greens? I’m guessing that privately at least, he wouldn’t be too impressed.

    On that note, the election is tomorrow. All I can say is, vote wisely.

  • See you NT
    See you NT
    5 years ago
    ‘we don’t elect them like that anymore, either.’
    If only we had a choice to....
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    As do i, paid 22 percent on business overdraft loan. But when i cleared my debts got 11 percent on my cash deposits.Hard hard days
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    5 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 17 May 2019 01:51 AM

    As do i, paid 22 percent on business overdraft loan. But when i cleared my debts got 11 percent on my cash deposits.Hard hard days

    No time in time suits all, RIP Bob.
  • Moss
    Moss
    5 years ago
    The recession of 1991 , put me out of business. My overdraft interest rate was 21%, and my customer base default rate increased exponentially. My wife who was saving for her first house remembers she was getting the advantage of 18% interest on her savings. My parents had bought an investment property in 1988, they were underwater on the property until the sold it in 1996 for the same price they bought it for. They also had to sell the family home, at the bottom of the market 1994. Swings and roundabouts , both my wife and I bought our first homes around the same time, at the bottom of the market. Even though I was out of business in 1991, by 1996 I had started a new business, and was able to buy a small home in a working class suburb.  

    I think the recession was a necessary part of the business cycle in hindsight, and think that Hawke / Keating did a far better job of managing the economy than Rudd/ Gillard/ Swan , who increased the cycle of debt to avoid the pain, and then got us addicted to third world immigration for GDP growth, while creating FTA's that gutted our working and middle class
  • boxa
    boxa
    5 years ago
    Yep the good old Bob Hawke , Paul Keating days ,,, Bob was running around the country  smiling , laughing , playing the Aussie larriken ,  while Keating run the country from  behind the fence , Bob promising him the top job , with no intention of delivering , Course he could'nt how could he hand the reins to a narcasist like Keating , who   thought everyone was wrong and he was the only one right ,  so much so , that when he led us to unemployment , 18% interest rates  , GST ,  and people losing there houses left right and centre , he still refused to admit he got it wrong ,,,
    Aaaargh them were the days , me a subbie continually having to work 7 days  just to keep the familly home,  really living the life of your  good old Aussie , who got his mates around for a  6 pack and a snag on sundays  , mainly because a six pack and a  a half kilo of sausages was all i could afford ,  Never forget the days of driving to work ,  putting in  a hard 12 hrs , and hitch hiking home because i did'nt have money  for the pertol home   all my money was going on the house with BIG BIG interest rates , and the car payment with BIG BIG interest rates .

    Then a funny thing happenned , we got a new govt , and fook me , interest rates came down , the recesion Mr Keating said we had to have disapeared ,  the building trade picked up , and i  had learnt something very valuable , how to work hard , only this time i got payed well for it , you see its simple supply and demand , all of a sudden there was lots of work so i did'nt have to prostitute myself  just to keep the familly home , I actually started to make money , themn employ and grow a buisness , and why because thge govt actually understood how buisness works .

    Was Hawke a good Aussie course he was ,  he was a beer swilling , womanising larrakin  and he was loved by all and subdry ,  was him and his offsider good pollies , well lets just say , Hawke , left school ,  came from money went to uni in the UK ,  picked the union movement to start his carreer ,  , and then jumped to politics , with NO BUISNESS NOUCE whatsoever , and running a country is like running a buisness on a bigger scale ,  so how  was anyone suprised that we had record interest rates , high unemployment  ect ect , when you have  a beer swilling larrakin in charge of the shop , Thing is theve not changed , look at the election , Shorten , a   marries into money , union official who wants to jump into running a country , when he also had no buisness nouce , has it shown when he promised to spend millions , but did'nt know where he would get said millions from
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 20 May 2019 12:25 PM

    Yep the good old Bob Hawke , Paul Keating days ,,, Bob was running around the country  smiling , laughing , playing the Aussie larriken ,  while Keating run the country from  behind the fence , Bob promising him the top job , with no intention of delivering , Course he could'nt how could he hand the reins to a narcasist like Keating , who   thought everyone was wrong and he was the only one right ,  so much so , that when he led us to unemployment , 18% interest rates  , GST ,  and people losing there houses left right and centre , he still refused to admit he got it wrong ,,,
    Aaaargh them were the days , me a subbie continually having to work 7 days  just to keep the familly home,  really living the life of your  good old Aussie , who got his mates around for a  6 pack and a snag on sundays  , mainly because a six pack and a  a half kilo of sausages was all i could afford ,  Never forget the days of driving to work ,  putting in  a hard 12 hrs , and hitch hiking home because i did'nt have money  for the pertol home   all my money was going on the house with BIG BIG interest rates , and the car payment with BIG BIG interest rates .

    Then a funny thing happenned , we got a new govt , and fook me , interest rates came down , the recesion Mr Keating said we had to have disapeared ,  the building trade picked up , and i  had learnt something very valuable , how to work hard , only this time i got payed well for it , you see its simple supply and demand , all of a sudden there was lots of work so i did'nt have to prostitute myself  just to keep the familly home , I actually started to make money , themn employ and grow a buisness , and why because thge govt actually understood how buisness works .

    Was Hawke a good Aussie course he was ,  he was a beer swilling , womanising larrakin  and he was loved by all and subdry ,  was him and his offsider good pollies , well lets just say , Hawke , left school ,  came from money went to uni in the UK ,  picked the union movement to start his carreer ,  , and then jumped to politics , with NO BUISNESS NOUCE whatsoever , and running a country is like running a buisness on a bigger scale ,  so how  was anyone suprised that we had record interest rates , high unemployment  ect ect , when you have  a beer swilling larrakin in charge of the shop , Thing is theve not changed , look at the election , Shorten , a   marries into money , union official who wants to jump into running a country , when he also had no buisness nouce , has it shown when he promised to spend millions , but did'nt know where he would get said millions from

    Yep we all have a tale or two from those days and certainly i for one would never want my kids with a mortgage do it like we had to. A couple of small points though , GST had nothing to do with Hawke/Keating it was introduced by the Howard Government and had in fact been rejected by the Labor government. As for Business Nounce our previous prime minister Malcolm Turnbull was a very accomplished business savvy man. He once turned 500k into 57million in 5yrs and we all know what happened to him....
    But like you i do feel more comfortable in having someone in power who has some life experience 
  • boxa
    boxa
    5 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 20 May 2019 12:25 PM

    Yep the good old Bob Hawke , Paul Keating days ,,, Bob was running around the country  smiling , laughing , playing the Aussie larriken ,  while Keating run the country from  behind the fence , Bob promising him the top job , with no intention of delivering , Course he could'nt how could he hand the reins to a narcasist like Keating , who   thought everyone was wrong and he was the only one right ,  so much so , that when he led us to unemployment , 18% interest rates  , GST ,  and people losing there houses left right and centre , he still refused to admit he got it wrong ,,,
    Aaaargh them were the days , me a subbie continually having to work 7 days  just to keep the familly home,  really living the life of your  good old Aussie , who got his mates around for a  6 pack and a snag on sundays  , mainly because a six pack and a  a half kilo of sausages was all i could afford ,  Never forget the days of driving to work ,  putting in  a hard 12 hrs , and hitch hiking home because i did'nt have money  for the pertol home   all my money was going on the house with BIG BIG interest rates , and the car payment with BIG BIG interest rates .

    Then a funny thing happenned , we got a new govt , and fook me , interest rates came down , the recesion Mr Keating said we had to have disapeared ,  the building trade picked up , and i  had learnt something very valuable , how to work hard , only this time i got payed well for it , you see its simple supply and demand , all of a sudden there was lots of work so i did'nt have to prostitute myself  just to keep the familly home , I actually started to make money , themn employ and grow a buisness , and why because thge govt actually understood how buisness works .

    Was Hawke a good Aussie course he was ,  he was a beer swilling , womanising larrakin  and he was loved by all and subdry ,  was him and his offsider good pollies , well lets just say , Hawke , left school ,  came from money went to uni in the UK ,  picked the union movement to start his carreer ,  , and then jumped to politics , with NO BUISNESS NOUCE whatsoever , and running a country is like running a buisness on a bigger scale ,  so how  was anyone suprised that we had record interest rates , high unemployment  ect ect , when you have  a beer swilling larrakin in charge of the shop , Thing is theve not changed , look at the election , Shorten , a   marries into money , union official who wants to jump into running a country , when he also had no buisness nouce , has it shown when he promised to spend millions , but did'nt know where he would get said millions from

    Quoting paulybronco on 20 May 2019 10:03 PM

    Yep we all have a tale or two from those days and certainly i for one would never want my kids with a mortgage do it like we had to. A couple of small points though , GST had nothing to do with Hawke/Keating it was introduced by the Howard Government and had in fact been rejected by the Labor government. As for Business Nounce our previous prime minister Malcolm Turnbull was a very accomplished business savvy man. He once turned 500k into 57million in 5yrs and we all know what happened to him....

    But like you i do feel more comfortable in having someone in power who has some life experience 

    My Mistake   your correct , Keating did  turn it down , Although to be honest refgardless who brought it in , i'm not really oppossed to gst , it taxes everyone , users pays sort of thing .. Turnbills was a buisness man  , although from what i read not a very good one it seems he was born into the money and actually lost more than he made , figures i don't know  , just what i read , but  he does know what he's doing , its just guys like him are not in the game for  Australia , its an ego thing for him , thats why he was useless ,

    Myself i just seem to have gone right of labor , and don't believe this for the working man crap
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    5 years ago
    Keating wanted to introduce a GST prior to the Libs bringing it in, the labor party turned it down because they were in opposition and whoever is in opposition always knows better than the government, just ask them

    the Gupta family started a bicycle repair shop, transformed adjusting spokes to GFG Alliance

    even the Libs are calling Bob Hawke the best labor prime minister ever

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting boxa on 20 May 2019 12:25 PM

    Yep the good old Bob Hawke , Paul Keating days ,,, Bob was running around the country  smiling , laughing , playing the Aussie larriken ,  while Keating run the country from  behind the fence , Bob promising him the top job , with no intention of delivering , Course he could'nt how could he hand the reins to a narcasist like Keating , who   thought everyone was wrong and he was the only one right ,  so much so , that when he led us to unemployment , 18% interest rates  , GST ,  and people losing there houses left right and centre , he still refused to admit he got it wrong ,,,
    Aaaargh them were the days , me a subbie continually having to work 7 days  just to keep the familly home,  really living the life of your  good old Aussie , who got his mates around for a  6 pack and a snag on sundays  , mainly because a six pack and a  a half kilo of sausages was all i could afford ,  Never forget the days of driving to work ,  putting in  a hard 12 hrs , and hitch hiking home because i did'nt have money  for the pertol home   all my money was going on the house with BIG BIG interest rates , and the car payment with BIG BIG interest rates .

    Then a funny thing happenned , we got a new govt , and fook me , interest rates came down , the recesion Mr Keating said we had to have disapeared ,  the building trade picked up , and i  had learnt something very valuable , how to work hard , only this time i got payed well for it , you see its simple supply and demand , all of a sudden there was lots of work so i did'nt have to prostitute myself  just to keep the familly home , I actually started to make money , themn employ and grow a buisness , and why because thge govt actually understood how buisness works .

    Was Hawke a good Aussie course he was ,  he was a beer swilling , womanising larrakin  and he was loved by all and subdry ,  was him and his offsider good pollies , well lets just say , Hawke , left school ,  came from money went to uni in the UK ,  picked the union movement to start his carreer ,  , and then jumped to politics , with NO BUISNESS NOUCE whatsoever , and running a country is like running a buisness on a bigger scale ,  so how  was anyone suprised that we had record interest rates , high unemployment  ect ect , when you have  a beer swilling larrakin in charge of the shop , Thing is theve not changed , look at the election , Shorten , a   marries into money , union official who wants to jump into running a country , when he also had no buisness nouce , has it shown when he promised to spend millions , but did'nt know where he would get said millions from

    Quoting paulybronco on 20 May 2019 10:03 PM

    Yep we all have a tale or two from those days and certainly i for one would never want my kids with a mortgage do it like we had to. A couple of small points though , GST had nothing to do with Hawke/Keating it was introduced by the Howard Government and had in fact been rejected by the Labor government. As for Business Nounce our previous prime minister Malcolm Turnbull was a very accomplished business savvy man. He once turned 500k into 57million in 5yrs and we all know what happened to him....

    But like you i do feel more comfortable in having someone in power who has some life experience 

    Quoting boxa on 20 May 2019 11:23 PM

    My Mistake   your correct , Keating did  turn it down , Although to be honest refgardless who brought it in , i'm not really oppossed to gst , it taxes everyone , users pays sort of thing .. Turnbills was a buisness man  , although from what i read not a very good one it seems he was born into the money and actually lost more than he made , figures i don't know  , just what i read , but  he does know what he's doing , its just guys like him are not in the game for  Australia , its an ego thing for him , thats why he was useless ,

    Myself i just seem to have gone right of labor , and don't believe this for the working man crap

    Turnbull was a highly successful business man and as per my prior post he turned 500k into 57million in 5yrs. The reference to him losing more than he made is baseless. Lastly he was not born into money and attended state schools for a period before winning a scholarship. No doubt that ego plays a major role in most heads of state and that is plain to see their poor loser attitude they all get post defeat. 
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    It’s not widely known, say what you like about him but Turnbull donated his entire $528,000 salary to charity. Fucking impressive.
    And he used public transport rather than a Govt car whenever he could.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 21 May 2019 08:50 AM

    It’s not widely known, say what you like about him but Turnbull donated his entire $528,000 salary to charity. Fucking impressive.

    And he used public transport rather than a Govt car whenever he could.

    He didn't when he came to my work.....had a cast of thousands with him. Got a selfie and and a 5 min smalltalk chat before his interview commitments. Did have the AFP security with us for several days in the lead up though. Both he and Lucy were very nice people to deal with. I Might add that Derryn Hinch is also a nice man.
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