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  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Been looking at buying my first new smaller 'Adventure' bike.
    There's great write ups of the BMW F750GS and F850GS in latest editions of Aust Motorcycle News and Aust Motorcyclist mags - both feature these bikes on the front cover.
    Focused on the F750GS - the price is what grabs me, only $13,590. I realise the usual story of this being the very base model price but the latest comparable Triumph Tiger is about $7,000 more!
    BMW seems to be the king in these type of bikes with namely the GS1200, so probably a safe bet with function & reliability etc.
    Should I also look at KTM? I would be mostly on the tarmac & occasional fire-trail - gravel with creek crossings. Like a lot of us here, grew up on Honda XR's an CR's riding in the bush, I miss this so would like to get back there again occasionally!  
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    5 years ago
    Save up for the new KTM 790 Adventure !
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 10:38 AM

    Save up for the new KTM 790 Adventure !

    I concur , great choice
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 10:38 AM

    Save up for the new KTM 790 Adventure !

    Quoting paulybronco on 03 Feb 2019 11:16 AM

    I concur , great choice

    Yeah, it looks the goods alright - but not available until June, need an indication of price.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    5 years ago
    $12500US for the standard model.
    Probably just under $18k here.
  • Nutty
    Nutty
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 12:52 PM

    $12500US for the standard model.
    Probably just under $18k here.

    Compared to $13,500 on-road for a Honda Africa Twin...

    Cheaper parts by miles, better build quality, miles better performance on-road, more dealers, etc.

    Ride an AT before you make a call WideGlide, If you're a keen dirt-bike rider you'll love it.

    I swear the AT feels like a big MX bike. The GS1200 is a wonderful bike but it's a big lump, it wouldn't see which way an AT went off-road.

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    5 years ago
    Last time I checked, the Crf1000 AT was $17500 for the base model ?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 12:52 PM

    $12500US for the standard model.
    Probably just under $18k here.

    Quoting Nutty on 03 Feb 2019 08:42 PMedited: 03 Feb 2019 08:45 PM

    Compared to $13,500 on-road for a Honda Africa Twin...

    Cheaper parts by miles, better build quality, miles better performance on-road, more dealers, etc.

    Ride an AT before you make a call WideGlide, If you're a keen dirt-bike rider you'll love it.

    I swear the AT feels like a big MX bike. The GS1200 is a wonderful bike but it's a big lump, it wouldn't see which way an AT went off-road.

    Nutty i think they are more $17-18k plus on roads for a Honda
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 12:52 PM

    $12500US for the standard model.
    Probably just under $18k here.

    Quoting Nutty on 03 Feb 2019 08:42 PMedited: 03 Feb 2019 08:45 PM

    Compared to $13,500 on-road for a Honda Africa Twin...

    Cheaper parts by miles, better build quality, miles better performance on-road, more dealers, etc.

    Ride an AT before you make a call WideGlide, If you're a keen dirt-bike rider you'll love it.

    I swear the AT feels like a big MX bike. The GS1200 is a wonderful bike but it's a big lump, it wouldn't see which way an AT went off-road.

    Quoting paulybronco on 03 Feb 2019 09:53 PM

    Nutty i think they are more $17-18k plus on roads for a Honda

    I think retail on road is $21,750.
    Then you gotta add panniers etc.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Quoting Nutty on 03 Feb 2019 08:42 PMedited: 03 Feb 2019 08:45 PM

    Compared to $13,500 on-road for a Honda Africa Twin...

    Cheaper parts by miles, better build quality, miles better performance on-road, more dealers, etc.

    Ride an AT before you make a call WideGlide, If you're a keen dirt-bike rider you'll love it.

    I swear the AT feels like a big MX bike. The GS1200 is a wonderful bike but it's a big lump, it wouldn't see which way an AT went off-road.

    Quoting paulybronco on 03 Feb 2019 09:53 PM

    Nutty i think they are more $17-18k plus on roads for a Honda

    Quoting Ratbob on 03 Feb 2019 10:45 PMedited: 03 Feb 2019 10:45 PM

    I think retail on road is $21,750.

    Then you gotta add panniers etc.

    The BMW F750GS showroom floor price of $13,590 is still looking the best value for money.
  • Nutty
    Nutty
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 09:40 PM

    Last time I checked, the Crf1000 AT was $17500 for the base model ?

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.
    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    5 years ago
    BSA Bantam with school bags......
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 09:40 PM

    Last time I checked, the Crf1000 AT was $17500 for the base model ?

    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 10:42 AMedited: 04 Feb 2019 10:45 AM

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)

    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         
  • Nutty
    Nutty
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 09:40 PM

    Last time I checked, the Crf1000 AT was $17500 for the base model ?

    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 10:42 AMedited: 04 Feb 2019 10:45 AM

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)

    Quoting Wideglider on 04 Feb 2019 11:30 AM

    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         

    Yep, good mate owns a Honda franchise in Wollongong NSW. I'm in the Shoalhaven.
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 03 Feb 2019 09:40 PM

    Last time I checked, the Crf1000 AT was $17500 for the base model ?

    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 10:42 AMedited: 04 Feb 2019 10:45 AM

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)

    Quoting Wideglider on 04 Feb 2019 11:30 AM

    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         

    I just hope you're pretty tall. I can't anywhere near touch the ground with any of those bikes. Ducks disease.Beats me why someone can't make a bike somewhere near reachable. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 10:42 AMedited: 04 Feb 2019 10:45 AM

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)

    Quoting Wideglider on 04 Feb 2019 11:30 AM

    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         

    Quoting Daffy on 04 Feb 2019 09:49 PM

    I just hope you're pretty tall. I can't anywhere near touch the ground with any of those bikes. Ducks disease.Beats me why someone can't make a bike somewhere near reachable. 

    Well maybe ground clearance for one
  • Choco
    Choco
    5 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 04 Feb 2019 10:38 PM

    Daffy,  this ones for you :

    Ha ha might be one for me. I stand 5'6 with very short legs most adventure bikes seat height comes up at least half way up my body I need a step ladder to get on them lol.
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    5 years ago
    I couldn't ride that. No headlights. He He.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 10:42 AMedited: 04 Feb 2019 10:45 AM

    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)

    Quoting Wideglider on 04 Feb 2019 11:30 AM

    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         

    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 09:08 PM

    Yep, good mate owns a Honda franchise in Wollongong NSW. I'm in the Shoalhaven.

    I'll be being doing a bit of test riding different makes soon - will have to drop in there to try an AT.
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