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98fxstc
6 years ago

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/06/harley-davidson-livewire-electric-motorcycle/#slide-7462684

tussuck
6 years ago

Nice...looks better than the FXDR as well.

rodrocket
6 years ago

Wrong choice of colors, surely by now marketing would know that Electric Orange is faster

put me down for one I have been waiting on this from the first announcement

Wideglider
6 years ago

Yes, my initial thoughts too - getting too old for the feet back & body bent forward thing.

Smokey61
6 years ago

Quoting Wideglider on 08 Nov 2018 06:53 AMedited: 08 Nov 2018 06:54 AM
Yes, my initial thoughts too - getting too old for the feet back & body bent forward thing.

It's the opposite with me. The Widey puts my spine almost vertical and my legs are too far forward to take any weight. There's one particular bump here, left lane bridge joint coming off the ring road onto Lavarack Road, for the locals, that gives me a big thump. I have a couple of dodgy discs in my back so this doesn't help.

The Trump leans me forward and allows me to put my weight on the pegs. Pegs are a little high, resulting in a hip cramp or two when I first set off, Causing me to stretch the leg out sideways while I lean the other way to counterbalance, but it's fine after that.

Wideglider
6 years ago

Quoting Wideglider on 08 Nov 2018 06:53 AMedited: 08 Nov 2018 06:54 AM
Yes, my initial thoughts too - getting too old for the feet back & body bent forward thing.

Quoting Smokey61 on 08 Nov 2018 07:59 AMedited: 08 Nov 2018 08:02 AM
It's the opposite with me. The Widey puts my spine almost vertical and my legs are too far forward to take any weight. There's one particular bump here, left lane bridge joint coming off the ring road onto Lavarack Road, for the locals, that gives me a big thump. I have a couple of dodgy discs in my back so this doesn't help.

The Trump leans me forward and allows me to put my weight on the pegs. Pegs are a little high, resulting in a hip cramp or two when I first set off, Causing me to stretch the leg out sideways while I lean the other way to counterbalance, but it's fine after that.

Fair enough Smokey, I suppose we each have a very particular riding position that finds the 'sweet spot' for comfort, especially for longer distances. Seems the older I get the further & longer I find myself riding.

JFE
6 years ago

I reckon it looks great, perhaps one of the better looking HD’s for a few years now.
Price and range will be key; perhaps Harley can sell a solar panel package for ya house (subtletly branded, of course) and I’d be in!

Ratbob
6 years ago

It looks huge, or have they got a kid riding it.
Rear peg position would kill my knees, that’s why I sold my 900ss bevel.

98fxstc
6 years ago

Quoting Ratbob on 08 Nov 2018 03:32 PM
It looks huge, or have they got a kid riding it.
Rear peg position would kill my knees, that’s why I sold my 900ss bevel.

Small rider
I wondered if it was a chick ?

fatslim
6 years ago

Can't wait to see you with a "man bun" cobber, that would be something!

fatslim
6 years ago

Quoting 98fxstc on 07 Nov 2018 10:54 PM
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/06/harley-davidson-livewire-electric-motorcycle/#slide-7462684

Lemme know when you buy one....
looks like a painful riding position for you.

Baloffski
6 years ago

Don"t mind its Torque, HP, but buggered if I'm stopping at woolies every 100 Ks. for box of energiser batteries. lol...

Ratbob
6 years ago

Quoting Ratbob on 08 Nov 2018 03:32 PM
It looks huge, or have they got a kid riding it.
Rear peg position would kill my knees, that’s why I sold my 900ss bevel.

Quoting 98fxstc on 08 Nov 2018 08:13 PM
Small rider
I wondered if it was a chick ?

That’s understandable, Chicks tend to like electronic toys :)

Krash Kinkade
6 years ago

that looks alright, BUT , it an't a Motor sickle! ( no motor ) I have a electric mountain bike, you have to peddle to get assistance from the electric motor. has three levels of assistance. the lowest is 20% then next is 50% then 100%. I mostly just leave it in 20% as then I get a long range. when your speed hits 25kph the motor cuts out and your power the bike peddling. I ride with a fast group on single track or fire trails in mountains. 50 to 60 k average about 20 k an hour. thing is the battery they use is heavy & has a limited number of charges to a life span & expensive takes a while to charge up if battery low.
I think this bike is just to target inner urban set that do short rides ( cafe to cafe ) I also think Harley in a big panic . But I'm sure the bike will perform, but how heavy will it be?

Smokey61
6 years ago

Quoting Baloffski on 09 Nov 2018 06:23 AM
Don"t mind its Torque, HP, but buggered if I'm stopping at woolies every 100 Ks. for box of energiser batteries. lol...

100kms was the range of the prototype four years ago, I'd expect a decent increase on that by now.

Wideglider
6 years ago

Quoting Krash Kinkade on 09 Nov 2018 08:57 PM
that looks alright, BUT , it an't a Motor sickle! ( no motor ) I have a electric mountain bike, you have to peddle to get assistance from the electric motor. has three levels of assistance. the lowest is 20% then next is 50% then 100%. I mostly just leave it in 20% as then I get a long range. when your speed hits 25kph the motor cuts out and your power the bike peddling. I ride with a fast group on single track or fire trails in mountains. 50 to 60 k average about 20 k an hour. thing is the battery they use is heavy & has a limited number of charges to a life span & expensive takes a while to charge up if battery low.
I think this bike is just to target inner urban set that do short rides ( cafe to cafe ) I also think Harley in a big panic . But I'm sure the bike will perform, but how heavy will it be?

Krash, it has a motor!
With regards to your pedal assist bike, all good stuff but you have to compare apples with apples. I test rode the Zero motorcycle couple of years back, performance-wise I could say it would leave any road ridden piston engined bike for dead & that was technology from a few years back, the manufacturers have to actually limit the torque at certain revs to make the things rideable! Harley have an even newer tech setup & undoubtedly have improved the charge range, you will have choice of power/economy settings (just like your peddle assist bike).

Ratbob
6 years ago

Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
“Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.

Wideglider
6 years ago

Quoting Ratbob on 10 Nov 2018 03:30 PM
Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
“Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.

Well put Rat.
We all find it hard to accept something different.
Embrace change! Yes, I too will miss the exhaust note (which is the major attraction of Harley).

Krash Kinkade
6 years ago

Quoting Krash Kinkade on 09 Nov 2018 08:57 PM
that looks alright, BUT , it an't a Motor sickle! ( no motor ) I have a electric mountain bike, you have to peddle to get assistance from the electric motor. has three levels of assistance. the lowest is 20% then next is 50% then 100%. I mostly just leave it in 20% as then I get a long range. when your speed hits 25kph the motor cuts out and your power the bike peddling. I ride with a fast group on single track or fire trails in mountains. 50 to 60 k average about 20 k an hour. thing is the battery they use is heavy & has a limited number of charges to a life span & expensive takes a while to charge up if battery low.
I think this bike is just to target inner urban set that do short rides ( cafe to cafe ) I also think Harley in a big panic . But I'm sure the bike will perform, but how heavy will it be?

Quoting Wideglider on 10 Nov 2018 11:28 AMedited: 10 Nov 2018 11:30 AM
Krash, it has a motor!
With regards to your pedal assist bike, all good stuff but you have to compare apples with apples. I test rode the Zero motorcycle couple of years back, performance-wise I could say it would leave any road ridden piston engined bike for dead & that was technology from a few years back, the manufacturers have to actually limit the torque at certain revs to make the things rideable! Harley have an even newer tech setup & undoubtedly have improved the charge range, you will have choice of power/economy settings (just like your peddle assist bike).

Wideglider I know the electric motors have strong torque. but your riding total loss ( battery not being recharged ) so the harder you ride the faster the battery drains. just have to find out how many watt the motor has how many amp hour the battery has. it's not free power. and will have a very poor resale value.

Krash Kinkade
6 years ago

Quoting Ratbob on 10 Nov 2018 03:30 PM
Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
“Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.

probably in future they will have banned two wheels if they have there way.

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