FXDR - any opinions yet?

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  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Quoting Adrian1200CA on 07 Nov 2018 12:23 AM

    Haven't test rode it yet but want too.  Would I own one, sure if I had the cash. Test rode the M8 Fatbob and the M8 Breakout.  The Fatbob handled well but riding position felt uncomfortable.  The breakout handles better than the old ones so ended up buying the breakout. Upgraded from my sporty (still have it).  Put the SE447 cams in the breakout and had it Dyno'd.. Soon found that I can throw the breakout around the corners just as fast as the sporty but kept scraping the pipes, so fitted Arnott's air to the rear and now I can use all the tyre. More stable on the road than the sporty and loving the extra power. Rode sports bikes in my younger years, had a RZ500 that was a lot of fun but no good for cruising. I ride a Harley now cause I don't want to kill myself on a sports bike and love the community/friends that the Harley brings with it. Cant help myself and keep adding bits to the Breakout.  So I guess I'm agreeing with some in that you ride want you want to ride and who cares what anyone else thinks.  Opinions are like arsehole everyone's got one.

    Stay shinny side up and enjoy the ride no matter what it is.

    This has been a great post, lots o laughs and info.
    Good on ya, that cam must deliver plenty of torque, intake closing 17 degrees ABDC, the old 255 in the 110’s was considered torquey and didn’t close till 25 degrees. 
    Hope you got strong wrists :)
  • Adrian1200CA
    Adrian1200CA
    6 years ago
    And I agree with yours...lol
  • Adrian1200CA
    Adrian1200CA
    6 years ago
    Quoting Adrian1200CA on 07 Nov 2018 12:23 AM

    Haven't test rode it yet but want too.  Would I own one, sure if I had the cash. Test rode the M8 Fatbob and the M8 Breakout.  The Fatbob handled well but riding position felt uncomfortable.  The breakout handles better than the old ones so ended up buying the breakout. Upgraded from my sporty (still have it).  Put the SE447 cams in the breakout and had it Dyno'd.. Soon found that I can throw the breakout around the corners just as fast as the sporty but kept scraping the pipes, so fitted Arnott's air to the rear and now I can use all the tyre. More stable on the road than the sporty and loving the extra power. Rode sports bikes in my younger years, had a RZ500 that was a lot of fun but no good for cruising. I ride a Harley now cause I don't want to kill myself on a sports bike and love the community/friends that the Harley brings with it. Cant help myself and keep adding bits to the Breakout.  So I guess I'm agreeing with some in that you ride want you want to ride and who cares what anyone else thinks.  Opinions are like arsehole everyone's got one.

    Stay shinny side up and enjoy the ride no matter what it is.

    Quoting Ratbob on 07 Nov 2018 08:26 AM

    This has been a great post, lots o laughs and info.

    Good on ya, that cam must deliver plenty of torque, intake closing 17 degrees ABDC, the old 255 in the 110’s was considered torquey and didn’t close till 25 degrees. 
    Hope you got strong wrists :)

    Its the 107 and I got 111.88 torque and 97.8hp. and yeah its a lot of fun, can spin the wheel if I want but I don't much as the rear costs a bomb.  When I jump on my sporty after riding the breakout its like jump on a kids bike.  The sporty is Stage 3 and is quick but doesn't have the raw pull of the M8. With the FXDR I reckon a few mods like a cam, better pipes and breather and it would go like stink.  Looking forward to test riding one when I get the chance.
  • Vic
    Vic
    6 years ago
    Quoting Bullterrier on 06 Nov 2018 12:39 AMedited: 11 Nov 2018 11:07 AM

    At the outset of this post I just want to clarify the following, I don’t work for Harley Davidson and after reading the vitriolic comments regarding the Mocos engineers etc I would not want to.

    I don’t receive any ‘financial consideration from the Moco although I would take whatever they gave me.
    My comments relate only to complete bikes as I have zero experience with incomplete bikes and did not even know that was a thing.
    Due to my ride being washed out today I found the time to submit a slightly longer post and thought it prudent to note my opinion and or thoughts.
    Below is the explanation and logic etc behind the design, price and performance of the FXDR.
    The FXDR as an absolute bargain and is the motorbike version of the Porsche 911 GT3.
    Consider the FXDR as a Breakout GT3.’
    Both have polarising form.
    Porsche created the GT3 which is based on a standard 911 by making it lighter through removal of various parts and introducing specialist lightweight bits. FXDR dito (composite guards, lightweight swingarm plastic indicators aluminium clip ons).
    Porsche remove backseats. FXDR dito.
    Porsche upgrade brakes and handling. FXDR dito.
    Porsche introduce exclusive colours for GT3. FXDR dito.
    Porsche increase power to GT3 . FXDR dito (+-5 hp over standard Breakout due to intake and exhaust).
    Porsche charge a huge premium for the privilege of as GT3. Harley designers and engineers brilliantly follow similar process but with only a small price increase over the standard Breakout and therein we find our bargain.
    I suspect that Porsche will take note of how Harley have pulled this of.
    Don’t be surprised when Harley release the Breakout GT3 RS ( FXDR RS) version with even more performance, creative colours and exclusivity.
    Finally I enclose a photo of my Bullterrier Mac and my Breakout GT3 depicting function and form at its finest.


    Good to see your showing Macs good side B/t . 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    6 years ago
    Does anyone know what country the M8 is built in? Only asking as a good friend was talking about buying a Harley, he has owned a few Harleys in the past but has not had much time ( work & family commitments ). he was talking about looking for a used one, but I said I think can buy a new M8 lowrider for about low 20K  with two year unlimited k warranty. so he sounds interested. asked what country they are made as, he said he thought someone said they are now made in China. I could not tell him as I don't know. does anyone know?
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    They’re still made in the USA. 
    I’ve seen them near new in the high teens $ 
  • Onequickpuck
    Onequickpuck
    6 years ago

    So..... I finally got a test ride on the FXDR!

    Not really a test ride though. Not a sprint around town, or a 10 minute buzz up and down the highway.


    Rocky Harley Davidson let me take it on the "Shop Ride" last Saturday and I put 300 k's on that bad boy!!

    For fair evaluation, here's what the bike had already in the way of mods.....

    Bassani SS 2-1 pipe

    Improved Cam (I have not asked the details of this, but pretty sure it's SE stuff)

    A can tune - not sure which one, but not a full dyno tune (yet)

    Healtech iQSE-1 Quickshifter

    That's it. Stock tyres. Stock handlebars. Stock seat. Stock suspension.


    The chosen route sounded good, as it included a nearby small mountain, so the twisties were in the recipe :)

    First impression - ergonomics are ideally suited to a full size rider. I am only 170cm and 63kgs.

    The seat height was good enough to get me flat footed, but only just. Not as tall as my V-Max, but sure as hell not on the ground like my Breakout.

    The bars felt good, until I started cruising around town. With my arse planted at the back of the seat, I did feel a little hunkered over to the bars. This however would be different for a bloke with slightly longer arms. In fact, I scooted a couple inches forward in the saddle and then the bars felt great. Nearly an upright position. This also reduced the stretch to reach the forward controls.

    Low end grunt in town was great! The motor of course sounds different than my Twin Cam 103, but it still sounded damn good.

    The tyres, chassis and brakes worked great and were very well balanced. The 240 rear tyre is not really a limitation at all. The bike has a narrow primary cover and heaps of chassis to ground clearance, so you can use the whole tyre quite easily without dragging anything!

    Cruising straight down the open highway was nothing special, and the ride position would need a few mods to suit my small frame.

    The gearing may be a little lower on the FXDR, as the rpms sounded like they were a bit high at 100kph.

    Then we got to the twisties. As soon as I dove into the first corner at 70-90kph, the thing really came to life! The motor has enough grunt to stay in top gear for any mountain shredding. If you were really under 60kph you could drop to 5th, but if you whacked the throttle, you would be quickshifting in the next couple seconds.

    The hunkered over riding position melted away as soon as I started to push it through the corners. The bike was easy to force into the corners and the suspension really balanced the load and tracked true. I have done road-race track days on Sportbikes, and if there was a track around here I would be able to embarrass some kiddos on crotchrockets with this thing!  Will it outperform a GSXR1000?....NO, but will it outperform any other stock Harley?....duh, Hell Yes!

    My Breakout has Carbon Fibre wheels, Galfer brake rotors, fully adjustable cartridge fork internals and a 260 on the rear. It may well be the best handling BO on the planet once I get the Shotguns on it.  However, the FXDR would need nothing to blow my BO away.

    Later in the ride we came to a miserable stretch of road. It was bumpy as HELL. Everybody on the ride was copping a beating - myself included. It was easy to adjust the rear pre-load whilst riding the bike, and it did make some improvement, but this road was just brutal. I reckon the suspension is ideal for a 100-120kg rider, not my scrawny arse :)

    Of course, a proper set of springs, oil, etc and it could be set up for anybody.


    Am I trading my BO in???  No, not just yet. I still have a few plans for my BO :)

    If I were buying a new bike tomorrow, I would likely pick the FXDR over the BO, especially if I lived in a hilly area.

    The motor and wheelbase on the FXDR just scream "Drag Race" to me, and I would love to make some easy low-11 second passes on this thing :)

    Looks.....well, yes, it obviously has a Ducati look-alike arse end. It does look kinda like a bastard child. I have a V-Max, so I know what kinda people are attracted to that kinda stuff LOL.

    But...it looks purpose built for speed, and it delivers as promised.

    I reckon if a guy wanted to tour on it you could put whatever gear you wanted on it to accommodate. The tail tidy is already coming, so looks will be greatly improved in the arse end.

    Fuel mileage was damn decent for being hot-rodded for a few hours. I went through basically a full tank of petrol in 300 hard ridden kilometres. My Stage 1 103" would use more fuel.

    I didn't rev the guts out of the FXDR, as it never seemed to need it - at all. They tell me the cam in it is good for upper rpms. Once she's a little more broke in, perhaps I'll get on again and stretch her legs some more.

    If you're even remotely thinking about getting one, arrange for a proper ride that will take you to the curves where you can feel what it was built for. If it feels or sound a bit ordinary from being BONE stock, remember - they are ALL like that until you throw a few goodies at them. It will liven up for sure - I promise.

    Thanks again to Rocky Harley for letting me unleash the beast for an arvo! Much appreciated :)





  • steelo
    steelo
    6 years ago
    great review mate  thanks. i saw one at abw today, took a picture and sent it to the missus saying "next bike?" she returned me that 6th sense meme "i see dead people!" 
    perhaps not today. after a service and 2 new tyres 20k kms, ill be pulling my head in for a while. damn those mexicans on the edenhope ride! f i hadnt tried to keep up, might have gotten another 4 k out if the tyres! 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    6 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 11 Nov 2018 08:01 PM

    They’re still made in the USA. 

    I’ve seen them near new in the high teens $ 

    Thank's fatbat!
    Also on another note, Mick Withers ( used to be called freeby when worked for L2R ages ago ) doing a road test now on the FXDR he is a big boy, not sure of his weight, but eat's well!! he has lot of drag race experience with MC's. and riding experience in general, if someone said he weighed 140KG I would not be surprised, just saying as Mick took a new stock FXDR to drag strip did easy 13.4 seconds quarter mile at 107mph ( respectable ) so as Mick said with a normal size rider you have an easy 12 second bike off showroom floor. from experience watching a experienced drag race bike racer back in the 2000's think 2002, I seen him run 13.2 on a stock twin cam 88 inch carb ( stock everything no k's up ) and at end of day with about 8 pass's down quarter mile he was doing 12.7 still bone stock & he weighed about average say 78KG, so as the bike runs in more you could expect high 11's with experienced rider.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    6 years ago
    Quoting Onequickpuck on 13 Nov 2018 10:05 AM

    So..... I finally got a test ride on the FXDR!

    Not really a test ride though. Not a sprint around town, or a 10 minute buzz up and down the highway.


    Rocky Harley Davidson let me take it on the "Shop Ride" last Saturday and I put 300 k's on that bad boy!!

    For fair evaluation, here's what the bike had already in the way of mods.....

    Bassani SS 2-1 pipe

    Improved Cam (I have not asked the details of this, but pretty sure it's SE stuff)

    A can tune - not sure which one, but not a full dyno tune (yet)

    Healtech iQSE-1 Quickshifter

    That's it. Stock tyres. Stock handlebars. Stock seat. Stock suspension.


    The chosen route sounded good, as it included a nearby small mountain, so the twisties were in the recipe :)

    First impression - ergonomics are ideally suited to a full size rider. I am only 170cm and 63kgs.

    The seat height was good enough to get me flat footed, but only just. Not as tall as my V-Max, but sure as hell not on the ground like my Breakout.

    The bars felt good, until I started cruising around town. With my arse planted at the back of the seat, I did feel a little hunkered over to the bars. This however would be different for a bloke with slightly longer arms. In fact, I scooted a couple inches forward in the saddle and then the bars felt great. Nearly an upright position. This also reduced the stretch to reach the forward controls.

    Low end grunt in town was great! The motor of course sounds different than my Twin Cam 103, but it still sounded damn good.

    The tyres, chassis and brakes worked great and were very well balanced. The 240 rear tyre is not really a limitation at all. The bike has a narrow primary cover and heaps of chassis to ground clearance, so you can use the whole tyre quite easily without dragging anything!

    Cruising straight down the open highway was nothing special, and the ride position would need a few mods to suit my small frame.

    The gearing may be a little lower on the FXDR, as the rpms sounded like they were a bit high at 100kph.

    Then we got to the twisties. As soon as I dove into the first corner at 70-90kph, the thing really came to life! The motor has enough grunt to stay in top gear for any mountain shredding. If you were really under 60kph you could drop to 5th, but if you whacked the throttle, you would be quickshifting in the next couple seconds.

    The hunkered over riding position melted away as soon as I started to push it through the corners. The bike was easy to force into the corners and the suspension really balanced the load and tracked true. I have done road-race track days on Sportbikes, and if there was a track around here I would be able to embarrass some kiddos on crotchrockets with this thing!  Will it outperform a GSXR1000?....NO, but will it outperform any other stock Harley?....duh, Hell Yes!

    My Breakout has Carbon Fibre wheels, Galfer brake rotors, fully adjustable cartridge fork internals and a 260 on the rear. It may well be the best handling BO on the planet once I get the Shotguns on it.  However, the FXDR would need nothing to blow my BO away.

    Later in the ride we came to a miserable stretch of road. It was bumpy as HELL. Everybody on the ride was copping a beating - myself included. It was easy to adjust the rear pre-load whilst riding the bike, and it did make some improvement, but this road was just brutal. I reckon the suspension is ideal for a 100-120kg rider, not my scrawny arse :)

    Of course, a proper set of springs, oil, etc and it could be set up for anybody.


    Am I trading my BO in???  No, not just yet. I still have a few plans for my BO :)

    If I were buying a new bike tomorrow, I would likely pick the FXDR over the BO, especially if I lived in a hilly area.

    The motor and wheelbase on the FXDR just scream "Drag Race" to me, and I would love to make some easy low-11 second passes on this thing :)

    Looks.....well, yes, it obviously has a Ducati look-alike arse end. It does look kinda like a bastard child. I have a V-Max, so I know what kinda people are attracted to that kinda stuff LOL.

    But...it looks purpose built for speed, and it delivers as promised.

    I reckon if a guy wanted to tour on it you could put whatever gear you wanted on it to accommodate. The tail tidy is already coming, so looks will be greatly improved in the arse end.

    Fuel mileage was damn decent for being hot-rodded for a few hours. I went through basically a full tank of petrol in 300 hard ridden kilometres. My Stage 1 103" would use more fuel.

    I didn't rev the guts out of the FXDR, as it never seemed to need it - at all. They tell me the cam in it is good for upper rpms. Once she's a little more broke in, perhaps I'll get on again and stretch her legs some more.

    If you're even remotely thinking about getting one, arrange for a proper ride that will take you to the curves where you can feel what it was built for. If it feels or sound a bit ordinary from being BONE stock, remember - they are ALL like that until you throw a few goodies at them. It will liven up for sure - I promise.

    Thanks again to Rocky Harley for letting me unleash the beast for an arvo! Much appreciated :)





    Good write up OQP!! how many L/100k did 300k to tank = ?
    Also what is the difference in Weight between FXDR & the low rider M8? with the weight & 34 degree rake, I would not be game to ride it had in twisties, but would be good straight line.
    cheers
  • TobyOne
    TobyOne
    5 years ago
    Best looking FXDR I have seen yet, here: https://www.hotbikeweb.com/thunderbike-customizes-2019-harley-fxdr-114

  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    That's real nice.
  • Neale
    Neale
    5 years ago
    That is a nice looking bike.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    5 years ago
    Front End looks cool then you get to for frame and there is this reverse rudder looking thingo. What's that about? Plus, where do ya put ya beer?
    Must say tank and engine, exhaust are shmick, just design is Darth Vaderish.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Quoting TobyOne on 05 Jan 2019 09:32 AM

    Best looking FXDR I have seen yet, here: https://www.hotbikeweb.com/thunderbike-customizes-2019-harley-fxdr-114

    That's a good looking thing, ADR's aside, kinda makes the HD designers look pretty dim, it takes outsiders (us) to make their products great, no wonder sales are down.
  • appolussa
    appolussa
    5 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 11 Oct 2018 11:06 AM

    Total piece of crap....Its supposed to be Harley not Honda.

    Quoting Ratbob on 11 Oct 2018 11:57 AM

    Did you ride one mate or just venting?

    ill test ride one today with my 60 year old body
  • Humbug
    Humbug
    5 years ago
    That is a very nice looking bike. I liked them from the start and will probably get one for my next bike.
  • TobyOne
    TobyOne
    5 years ago
    The article says it has indicators, really tiny little ones that may or may not be legal ;)
    They’ve also modded/replaced the mono shock so it’s a lot of work ... so far!
  • B0GN
    B0GN
    5 years ago
    Quoting TobyOne on 12 Jan 2019 07:14 AM

    The article says it has indicators, really tiny little ones that may or may not be legal ;)

    They’ve also modded/replaced the mono shock so it’s a lot of work ... so far!

    My local dealer posted this pic of tiny indicators just the other day. They’re even legal :-)
    As for the bike itself. I like the look of the aftermarket modded one. It looks a little like a Breakout but with an unfinished arse end  ;-)


  • TobyOne
    TobyOne
    5 years ago
    Thunderbike just stepped it up again for Battle of the Kings 2019, check it out 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dba1093qvGE

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