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Leaning to the right.

Mr.Mow
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 26 Feb 2020 12:09 AM
ive also found that if u fabricate a home made number plate it can have the same effect .. specially if u have more letters/numbers on one side : )

Quoting dicko on 27 Feb 2020 12:38 AM
I just move my wallet to the other pocket.

I just stop riding on straight roads!

micathia
4 years ago

Quoting Bob on 26 Feb 2020 09:15 PM

How do you determine the accurate weight?

Stew70
4 years ago

Quoting Bob on 26 Feb 2020 09:15 PM

Great way to add weight and help level the bike. Would love to try it on mine but I don't weld or have access to a welder. I'd have to use a different shape or design as I've got the original exhaust setup with slip ons.

Bob
4 years ago

I determined the right weight simply through trial and error. Having someone hold the bike on level ground with the handlebars straight. Then checking for squareness to the side of the rear wheel with a 2 foot square to the level ground which I checked with a spirit level. Now the bike is quite level freestanding on its own. It has made a big difference when I ride. My brother has the same bike and we rode each others bike to look from behind and compare the difference. We both agree that it looks quite straight now. Also I believe that the heavier the rider is and if there is a pillion passenger the original lean is not as bad due to the fact that the percentage of imbalance is less. But when the bike is standing upright on its own accord it is most obvious.

Bob
4 years ago

What I mean by freestanding on its own is holding the bike verticle gently just with you finger tips and finding the bikes own balance point. Then checking the rear wheels 90 degree squareness to the ground.

micathia
4 years ago

I had a new observation yesterday.
I was driving in a car while two harley riders riding in front of me. One is Deluxe, one is breakout. I followed them for couple of kms.

The deluxe looks fine, not a perfect vertical but minor leaning that if I don't point out, people won't notice.

But the Breakout just looked aweful. It 's leaning towards right all the time, at about 10 to 20 degree I guess. Even my wife (not a rider) noticed that and said that it would really hurt his spine if he riding like that everyday.

The road condition is constantly changing from slopy to flat, flat to slopy (sometimes left is higher, most of time right is higher as we all ride on the left side of the road), but that breakout was leaning to right heavily as long as I can see him, regardless the road condition flat or slopy (both direction of slopeness).

Today I called my local mechanics about this question, he reckons it's normal. I hardly think how can that be normal. He said maybe the Breakout 's fat rear tyre wore out, creating a flat stripe zone along the midline causing him to constantly lean right.

I used to think the road slope is the major factor causing this issue, but looking at two bikes in front of me behaved so differently, I am not sure what caused the issue then. Breakout and deluxe are all on the same frame, shouldn't be like one is super balanced one is super un-balanced. ???

stevo fxsb
4 years ago

Thought I'd jump in on this one! The comment "the Breakout seemed unbalanced" or words to that effect caught my eye!
Couple of points to mention, depending on the year there is a stark difference between the 2015-17 Breakout and the new M8 Breakout!
Having said that, the key issues of this thread is in relation to Tyre wear!
Both model Breakouts have standard a 240mm rear as with the FXDR. I own a 2017 Breakout and have ridden all three, at least 300klm's plus on the other models!
In short, the 240mm doesn't cut it, for general touring and cornering on the Breakout, not sure how FXDR owners feel, but a vast majority of Breakout owners run a 260mm rear [usually a Metzler] on the back end. I have just over 60'000klm's on my Breakout, on my third 260mm only due to a puncture (one one after 6k) and my second original front HD Dunlop.
I'd like to highlight a couple of observations with tires:
1) Tire pressure is king, (check the owners manual) always check before each ride! Ive had a 10 psi change overnight, when on long trips!
2) Changing a tyre, ensure it's beaded correctly, I learnt that with the above, which why I was loosing so much overnight.
Riding a bike with a wide tyre on the ass, takes a bit of getting used too! But is great fun when you work it out!
Cheers
Stevo

Bob
4 years ago

I believe the Deluxe is pretty balanced. The 2019 model I checked for verticle balance looked pretty good. I found that the new Fatboy and Breakout have the issue. Might have something to do with getting the drive belt out enough to clear the wide rear tyre. Maybe these models have more weight hanging further out somehow on the left to achieve this.

micathia
4 years ago

Quoting Bob on 10 Mar 2020 10:52 AM
I believe the Deluxe is pretty balanced. The 2019 model I checked for verticle balance looked pretty good. I found that the new Fatboy and Breakout have the issue. Might have something to do with getting the drive belt out enough to clear the wide rear tyre. Maybe these models have more weight hanging further out somehow on the left to achieve this.

From my observation, I don't think belts are on different position on fatboy/breakout at all.
Breakout has same position as street bob. You can notice a giant spacer between belt and wheel on Street bob and Slim.

So basically, by changing the four components: rear heel, rear fender, fender guard (left right), spacers, you can convert between street bob, low rider, breakout. Swing arms are same size.

Your saying about deluxe confirms what I saw the other day.

GauravDalip_fatty18
2 years ago

Hello Everyone , I am from India and riding a Fatboy 2018. Im running mini grenade exhaust from vnh.

Now, I was fed-up with right lean of the bike so decided to change it. But the ongoing situation doesn't allow me to upgrade my bike so I jumped in to this thread hoping to make my bike more vertical.

All the fatboys motorcycles in India are leaning heavily to right. The Fatboy owners here are so frustrated they formed an all India alliance F.B.I. ( Fatboys of India) and talked to Harley Davidson India about the right leaning problem. But HD India was adamant that India roads have slope which causes it to lean to right. ( Road being high from the right side compared to the left , as per HD India). Hence no solution. Sad .

After reading the replies here, it will be safe to say that the Fatboy has manufacturing defect which causes it to lean to right?

As said by a member, if one shifts his ass little to the right side, the bike rides more vertical.

So, the Little experiment of adding weight to the motorcycle looks promising. Will do and update.

Any one else had success other then Bob?

Thanks

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