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  • FatRob
    FatRob
    6 years ago
    Looking for an opinion.
    I've bought some DS lines for my Fat Bob.  I opted for the black vinyl covered ones as a like for like replacement for the original ones.  
    The spec says that they are DOT certified so I was happy that they are 'legal' to fit but when they arrived there are no markings visible to back this up.
    I contacted DS and got a swift reply telling me that all the markings were under the vinyl. 
    So my question is: will I cop any hassle if I am pulled over and get a roadside inspection?  Or indeed for a roadworthy (not that I am planning on selling anytime soon).

    Cheers,

    FatRob
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Quoting FatRob on 14 Aug 2018 10:33 PM

    Looking for an opinion.

    I've bought some DS lines for my Fat Bob.  I opted for the black vinyl covered ones as a like for like replacement for the original ones.  
    The spec says that they are DOT certified so I was happy that they are 'legal' to fit but when they arrived there are no markings visible to back this up.
    I contacted DS and got a swift reply telling me that all the markings were under the vinyl. 
    So my question is: will I cop any hassle if I am pulled over and get a roadside inspection?  Or indeed for a roadworthy (not that I am planning on selling anytime soon).

    Cheers,

    FatRob

    Rob a couple of things. DOT is usually a reference to an American standard, Department of Transport and therefore not recognised as we have a different testing method. Our parts are ADR approved or Australian Design Rules. So technically they do NOT comply with ADR std and there fore illegal. The chances of a copper knowing the difference are slim but the possibility that he may have a QLD Transport inspector in tow, like the blitz on Mt Glorious , may possibly see you come unstuck. Get your roadworthy from a car mechanic, mostly don't know what they are looking at. Lastly in the unlikely event you bin your bike your insurer could reject your claim on the basis that you did not get an engineer to certify that the mods to the brakes were up to std, very unlikely but remotely possible
  • FatRob
    FatRob
    6 years ago
    Quoting FatRob on 14 Aug 2018 10:33 PM

    Looking for an opinion.

    I've bought some DS lines for my Fat Bob.  I opted for the black vinyl covered ones as a like for like replacement for the original ones.  
    The spec says that they are DOT certified so I was happy that they are 'legal' to fit but when they arrived there are no markings visible to back this up.
    I contacted DS and got a swift reply telling me that all the markings were under the vinyl. 
    So my question is: will I cop any hassle if I am pulled over and get a roadside inspection?  Or indeed for a roadworthy (not that I am planning on selling anytime soon).

    Cheers,

    FatRob

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 Aug 2018 10:58 PMedited: 14 Aug 2018 10:59 PM

    Rob a couple of things. DOT is usually a reference to an American standard, Department of Transport and therefore not recognised as we have a different testing method. Our parts are ADR approved or Australian Design Rules. So technically they do NOT comply with ADR std and there fore illegal. The chances of a copper knowing the difference are slim but the possibility that he may have a QLD Transport inspector in tow, like the blitz on Mt Glorious , may possibly see you come unstuck. Get your roadworthy from a car mechanic, mostly don't know what they are looking at. Lastly in the unlikely event you bin your bike your insurer could reject your claim on the basis that you did not get an engineer to certify that the mods to the brakes were up to std, very unlikely but remotely possible

    Thanks for your reply, PaulyBronco.
    I noticed that in ADR 42/04 it says: 
    "Flexible hydraulic brake hoses, air or vacuum brake tubing and air and vacuum hose, flexible and hydraulic power hose between the ‘Brake Power Unit 31/00’ or ‘Brake Power Unit 35/00’ and the master cylinder or its equivalent must conform to SAA, SAE, BS, JIS, DIN, ISO or ECE Standards"

    I wonder why they don't like the DOT standard.

    FR
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Quoting FatRob on 14 Aug 2018 10:33 PM

    Looking for an opinion.

    I've bought some DS lines for my Fat Bob.  I opted for the black vinyl covered ones as a like for like replacement for the original ones.  
    The spec says that they are DOT certified so I was happy that they are 'legal' to fit but when they arrived there are no markings visible to back this up.
    I contacted DS and got a swift reply telling me that all the markings were under the vinyl. 
    So my question is: will I cop any hassle if I am pulled over and get a roadside inspection?  Or indeed for a roadworthy (not that I am planning on selling anytime soon).

    Cheers,

    FatRob

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 Aug 2018 10:58 PMedited: 14 Aug 2018 10:59 PM

    Rob a couple of things. DOT is usually a reference to an American standard, Department of Transport and therefore not recognised as we have a different testing method. Our parts are ADR approved or Australian Design Rules. So technically they do NOT comply with ADR std and there fore illegal. The chances of a copper knowing the difference are slim but the possibility that he may have a QLD Transport inspector in tow, like the blitz on Mt Glorious , may possibly see you come unstuck. Get your roadworthy from a car mechanic, mostly don't know what they are looking at. Lastly in the unlikely event you bin your bike your insurer could reject your claim on the basis that you did not get an engineer to certify that the mods to the brakes were up to std, very unlikely but remotely possible

    Quoting FatRob on 14 Aug 2018 11:32 PM

    Thanks for your reply, PaulyBronco.

    I noticed that in ADR 42/04 it says: 
    "Flexible hydraulic brake hoses, air or vacuum brake tubing and air and vacuum hose, flexible and hydraulic power hose between the ‘Brake Power Unit 31/00’ or ‘Brake Power Unit 35/00’ and the master cylinder or its equivalent must conform to SAA, SAE, BS, JIS, DIN, ISO or ECE Standards"

    I wonder why they don't like the DOT standard.

    FR

    Rob i dont have the expertise to answer that question other than to say we have similar issues with standards regarding the certification of m/cycle helmets in Aust as well. There has been some relaxation/recognition of international standards of recent times so PERHAPS the certifications you mentioned may indeed be inclusive of the DOT standard. Without knowing where or who supplied the hoses to DS i am unsure if they are a quality item or not.
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