Farmers and the current drought

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  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    6 years ago
    Quoting Ferrett62 on 10 Aug 2018 08:39 AM

    It's okay to say buy Australian but finding it is the hard part, supermarkets could help if they wanted by simply putting an Australian flag next to the price tag of Australian products like they had some pride in selling it. Make the choice easy and people might make the sensible one for the country, after all who wants to go through every brand of what they want trying to read where it comes from, I know most manufacturers mark it on the packaging but not all clearly. Foreign aid to countries in crisis are a world obligation I have no objection to but the fact we do it over and over to the same countries with little accountability for what it's used for has to stop as it seems they are taking the extra money for granted and are not using it to build a future where they don't need it, but Australia is in crisis and that money should be channeled into farms here and into projects to secure and store water against future droughts. Only through building prosperity here can we ensure the ability to help other countries in crisis and if they cant see that and demand the money should be biven to them then sorry but fuck em.

    why not have the asian isle pissed off and have Australian items only in a couple isles, then us lazy bastards dont have to be able to read , there is only Aussie stuff there
  • friday
    friday
    6 years ago
    theoretically OZ products have a flag on them , problem is in small writing it says " made from local and imported product"

  • Humbug
    Humbug
    6 years ago
    Yeah it would be easier if the Australian made and grown was in larger writing.   
  • Sniffenabout
    Sniffenabout
    6 years ago
    Quoting Humbug on 11 Aug 2018 02:28 AM

    Yeah it would be easier if the Australian made and grown was in larger writing.   

    Yes it would. I suspect the supermarkets don't really want us to know hence all the Home Branded stuff. They can over time substitute local ingredients for imported while keeping the same packaging. Fuck em.
  • Vic
    Vic
    6 years ago

    If your reading this thread, you can buy Australian at the supermarkets.

    It aint that fucking hard!

    Yes the labels could be clearer, but .......

  • friday
    friday
    6 years ago
    the labels could be clearer but the government is against country of origin labeling .... why is that ?

  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    6 years ago
    Aye blokes, like many I do the shop thing, and also check where each product has originated, not "Packed" in NSW/Vic blah blah.(may seem annul)
    Food shit, absolutely refuse to buy anything but Australian if can help it, ok, somethings slip through, but seriously we have to support OUR country by supporting the buggas working IN the country. 
    Australia is one of the best countries in the world, we just need some barstead with balls to push our barra.
    Wow, am breathless after writing this... where the stormy port.
  • mick44
    mick44
    6 years ago
    Quoting robots on 06 Aug 2018 07:54 AM

    stuff em, when does a brickie get handouts like them if they have lean times, or a cleaner, or plasterer or coffee shop

    sit on massive land lots worth $$$, they dont save any money for these times

    pull out in front of you on every country road

    Absolutely agree with you Robots.
    When that refinery in Townsville shut down, I thought about those that not long before got a mortgage or were over 50 that wouldnt just get that sort of paying job the next day. I put a comment up here and in one other non internet space. It said, I think all the farmers should donate enough beef to give every sacked worker at Palmers refinery a half side of beef. Remember many stations run 7000 head plus. So i figured 2 or 3 head off every bigger station, 1 head of small farms with the majority taken to nearest abattoir. The rest taken to what ever abatoirs near them. A pain but not rocket science. It could be done. It wasnt to save anyones job, just a gesture to you know, Say we the farmers care.
    Not one farmer has ever donated a few head as  above.
    Fuck em, they choose to be farmers. Seen plenty factories close down. Dont ever see anyone wanting to donate money to them people, ever.
    My local shop doesnt sell the Dairy Farmers $3 2 litre milks no more, only the $2.20 for a cheaper branded milk. And I bet that the vast majority of this forum buy the Woolis or Coles $2 milk. I know this cause you only have to see how much is stocked in their fridges and how little Branded milk is stocked ?
    Droughts are like free trade agreements. There only bad if your company or farm shuts down and you personaly loose your jobs if are employed in them.
    And dont forget, Right now farmers are gouging the fuck out of farmers in hardest hit areas by the massive rise in feed stocks, hay ect. Why should money be donated so farmers that are gouging, fleecing and ripping off drought affected farmers make a fortune. 
  • robots
    robots
    6 years ago
    upstanding community members, 
    https://www.theage.com.au/business/workplace/fair-work-blitz-finds-widespread-underpayment-of-farm-workers-20181122-p50hjn.html

    put there hand out


  • Mr.Mow
    Mr.Mow
    6 years ago
    Quoting robots on 06 Aug 2018 07:54 AM

    stuff em, when does a brickie get handouts like them if they have lean times, or a cleaner, or plasterer or coffee shop

    sit on massive land lots worth $$$, they dont save any money for these times

    pull out in front of you on every country road

    Probably because none of the businesses above are vital to living? No food yr a bit fckd.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Quoting robots on 06 Aug 2018 07:54 AM

    stuff em, when does a brickie get handouts like them if they have lean times, or a cleaner, or plasterer or coffee shop

    sit on massive land lots worth $$$, they dont save any money for these times

    pull out in front of you on every country road

    Quoting Mr.Mow on 24 Nov 2018 12:38 AM

    Probably because none of the businesses above are vital to living? No food yr a bit fckd.

    That’s true and I feel sorry for their livelihoods too. But the other side of the argument cannot be dismissed altogether. Lots of farmers made lots of money during good times. Some invested it well and others not so well. Lots of brand new landcruisers, hiluxes, boats and bikes in lots of towns too. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Quoting robots on 06 Aug 2018 07:54 AM

    stuff em, when does a brickie get handouts like them if they have lean times, or a cleaner, or plasterer or coffee shop

    sit on massive land lots worth $$$, they dont save any money for these times

    pull out in front of you on every country road

    Quoting Mr.Mow on 24 Nov 2018 12:38 AM

    Probably because none of the businesses above are vital to living? No food yr a bit fckd.

    Quoting fatbat on 24 Nov 2018 03:40 AMedited: 24 Nov 2018 03:41 AM

    That’s true and I feel sorry for their livelihoods too. But the other side of the argument cannot be dismissed altogether. Lots of farmers made lots of money during good times. Some invested it well and others not so well. Lots of brand new landcruisers, hiluxes, boats and bikes in lots of towns too. 

    Bet there are far more tradies in Landcruisers and Hilux etc
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Quoting Mr.Mow on 24 Nov 2018 12:38 AM

    Probably because none of the businesses above are vital to living? No food yr a bit fckd.

    Quoting fatbat on 24 Nov 2018 03:40 AMedited: 24 Nov 2018 03:41 AM

    That’s true and I feel sorry for their livelihoods too. But the other side of the argument cannot be dismissed altogether. Lots of farmers made lots of money during good times. Some invested it well and others not so well. Lots of brand new landcruisers, hiluxes, boats and bikes in lots of towns too. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Nov 2018 03:41 AM

    Bet there are far more tradies in Landcruisers and Hilux etc

    Don’t see how that’s relevant as tradies aren’t getting help. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 24 Nov 2018 03:40 AMedited: 24 Nov 2018 03:41 AM

    That’s true and I feel sorry for their livelihoods too. But the other side of the argument cannot be dismissed altogether. Lots of farmers made lots of money during good times. Some invested it well and others not so well. Lots of brand new landcruisers, hiluxes, boats and bikes in lots of towns too. 

    Quoting paulybronco on 24 Nov 2018 03:41 AM

    Bet there are far more tradies in Landcruisers and Hilux etc

    Quoting fatbat on 24 Nov 2018 03:51 AM

    Don’t see how that’s relevant as tradies aren’t getting help. 

    We ALL get help in some way....tax free threshold , low income earners , franking credits, negative gearing, 50/50 rule , subsidised child care, pensioner concessions, overtime penalties, shift penalties, working away from home allowances and on and on it goes. We all get government assistance in some way
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    6 years ago
    My uncle in south west  Queensland got 28 bails of hay last week, this will help and is grateful for it
    they have had couple meetings with their bank manager about their loans and have had a 15 year extension put on, this also helps
    I have just got home from driving from the gold coast, out to Charleville, back to St George down to Dubbo, then home via Broken Hill, the entire trip was bare or yellow grass
    these farmers are doing it tough with no feed for their livestock, transport cost strip the cost at sale making it not financial to send them in, not many good news story's coming in
  • Spook
    Spook
    6 years ago
    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 24 Nov 2018 05:04 AM

    My uncle in south west  Queensland got 28 bails of hay last week, this will help and is grateful for it
    they have had couple meetings with their bank manager about their loans and have had a 15 year extension put on, this also helps
    I have just got home from driving from the gold coast, out to Charleville, back to St George down to Dubbo, then home via Broken Hill, the entire trip was bare or yellow grass
    these farmers are doing it tough with no feed for their livestock, transport cost strip the cost at sale making it not financial to send them in, not many good news story's coming in

    Gotta feel for the farmers, Soapy. I have friends on the land and no-one is getting it easy at the moment.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    6 years ago
    Have no affiliation to farms, properties now. But even just working inland from the Isa 20 maybe 30 years ago. Remember homesteads, people just walked off. It was to me then.. a shake up, and such a sad feeling as I got to jet home every few weeks from swag...These poor bugga's had nought and walked down the road..and had nought at end of road. What a gamble, sometimes dice rolls your way, other way is more often I have seen. Keep well. Ski.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 24 Nov 2018 05:04 AM

    My uncle in south west  Queensland got 28 bails of hay last week, this will help and is grateful for it
    they have had couple meetings with their bank manager about their loans and have had a 15 year extension put on, this also helps
    I have just got home from driving from the gold coast, out to Charleville, back to St George down to Dubbo, then home via Broken Hill, the entire trip was bare or yellow grass
    these farmers are doing it tough with no feed for their livestock, transport cost strip the cost at sale making it not financial to send them in, not many good news story's coming in

    They aint got a easy gig at all. Us city slicker would not be able to get up after a week of farm work. LOL
  • B0GN
    B0GN
    6 years ago
    Farmers do it tough OFTEN. But they also have bumper years which help get them thru a few tough years. The problem comes when those few tough years turn into a few more tough years. 
    Buy Aussie and steer clear of the home brands. It’s probably The easiest way to make a difference in the long term. 
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    6 years ago
    the drought has hit all farmers, as I said, my uncle got some hay, 28 bails don't go far but as he said, it does help, he runs cattle and as sheep have got expensive, (sheer, crotch, dip) he had to reduce to around 60 head for his own his own consumption.
    He has started a short trail of running Dorpers as they don't need shearing,

    the drought has also effected cereal and other growers, I wonder what relief they are getting.
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