Anyone say KFC.....?

Ha Ha just thought we might  agern for a short break before we get back into things

Here is a ref to a service bulletin the MoCo sent out to their Dealers (probably because of the 1.2% failure rate)
It also refers to Softails.
Otherwise I do not recall any mention anywhere of a softail having problems with sumping or transmission fluid transfer but the MoCo mention them here.
I have a mate who has just brought a 2018 FatBob Softail.
He does not know anything about the internet and reported problems with the M8 and I am keeping my fingers crossed for him.
I reckon the odds are in his favour.
But if you own one of the others be very vigilant while you have the warranty, because HD are keeping quiet about it and its not just internet bullshit.

201711211622-updated.pdf

Yes Hilly, a proper HD dealership reads all service bulletins - if you get a "never heard of it mate" from a dealer just walk out and find a proper one. We all should vote with our feet.

"Anecdotally it seems the majority of the ones that do sump big time are modded bikes, the rate seems to go up with the mod level as well, stage 4 CVO's have a disproportionate rate for sumping compared to other stage 4 M8's as well.
So far the softail M8's appear to be doing much better than the tourers, there are whispers but I don't know of any personally, by personally I also mean someone I trust telling me they have one or can verify one."

I believe manufacturing tolerances and the scavenging ability of the oil pump is the problem.
Not the same pumps, I know, but the pumps in modded and/or heavy bikes are going to have to work a lot harder at high rpm's to recirculate the oil and many are not up to it, hence the sumping.
Going to happen with the Softails too but not as many.

Transmission oil transfer is not so much a problem with the Softails because most of them are 107 with the cable clutch. Most of the 114 Softails are also cable clutch, but the 2018 Fatboy S is not. It has a hydraulic clutch.

Member Rooster15 on HTT reported he had pretty bad transmission oil transfer with his Fatboy S and was subsequently ridiculed by others who told him he had a cable clutch which did not transfer.
He knew his bike, the other half-educated naysayers on the site did not.
He dropped out of the discussion rather than argue with the wankers.

Worthwhile revisiting R2D2's comments from 27 Jul 2018 08:16 PM

"More hearsay , that's the issue here.
BS as far as I'm concerned mate.
Many guys on the US forums said they sumped then got caught out and have never posted again, shut their profiles down most of them
Some clown here quoted the HTT site as reputable , that site was where a guy said he had oil migration on a Softail FFS , rooster or something was his handle.Half a dozen guys defended him too but someone pointed out the cable clutch on the Softails , they all jumped on the bandwagon and looked fuckin' stoopid.
The Softails have a cable clutch so it couldn't physically transfer ,so this is how it all looks to me most of it is jealousy of the new models , same happened when the Twinky was released.
I know and get there's issues but for me they are a tiny amount of bikes having the sumping issues and a few more had the transfer deal but most of it is BS hearsay to me just more fake news on the internet.
Just think whatever you need to think guys."

Fatboy S has a cable clutch https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softail-models/1199257-2018-black-tempest-fat-boy-s-16.html

Could someone translate this into English,, please.

Not hard to Sump you Ol boy.

Somebody shoot this fucker please. lol

The original link on HTT has expired
I can't confirm the info on the M8 114 from there.
All the other stuff says 2018 Fatboy S has the hydraulic clutch but it is still running the Twin Cam 110B motor
Still waiting for Rooster15 to get back to me

Mate I posted the parts list up above it's in there.

All good , anyways my take is it's way way over blown on the net , with many false claims .

lot of adds for sale of hydraulic clutch cables for 2017 - 2018 Softails
Where are are they going ?

Seriously give it a rest the 18 Softails  are cable clutch actuated.

still looking for the original link
got some humble pie ready in case I don't find anything

Don't sweat it man, there's a lot of misinformation out there about the M8's.

Personally I wouldn’t believe a fuckin word coming from R2D2 until he fuckin provides proof that he knows what he is talking about! Copies of emails, phone records, voice and video recordings of his discussions, names and addresses of those people etc. etc. he is probably a HD employee or simply just fake news. 

Few more facts here for enlightenment, not to stir the pot

2018 Fatboy S

It appears there are two models

2018 Fatboy S with twincam 110B motor in softail frame with hydraulic clutch

2018 Fatboy S  with M8 114 motor in the new softail frame with cable clutch

HD are still selling the twin cam Fatboy S as 2018

The guy who posted on HTT about transmission oil transfer was not 100% clear as to which bike he had.

Some of the posts have been deleted because of the shitfight that followed.

Here are a couple of them

so, not 100% sure which bike it was

but apparently cable clutches can transfer transmission oil too