Living with SE266 cams

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  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    I’m thinking of buying a new ride but it comes with a Screamin Eagle 110 upgrade, CNC heads, pistons, clutch, throttle body etc not sure if the crank’s welded and SE266 cams  and there’s my concern. How easy are 266’s to live with? 
    My current Fatbob 110 has the SE 255’s which I find an easy ride, sure I’ll be taking a test ride but it’s easy to be seduced by this kind of build but would the 266’s be a pain in the long term?


  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    You got it Hilly. 
    Yes tune is a big factor, was done by the dealer not Lushy. 
    So yeah it’s around town that might be an issue, especially on 36 degree days. I’ll test ride next week, it’ll be a cold day, 13 degrees max so I’ll get an idea but it would be good to hear from anyone who’s run 266’s long term. 
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    6 years ago
    The type of bike would be a factor, what bike is it ?
    In a Dyna, sure, should be fine.
    Compression could be an issue, too little and it may be a dog down low, too much and it could be a heat monster in summer.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Quoting speedzter on 17 Jun 2018 02:09 AM

    The type of bike would be a factor, what bike is it ?
    In a Dyna, sure, should be fine.
    Compression could be an issue, too little and it may be a dog down low, too much and it could be a heat monster in summer.

    Yeah didn’t mention the bike. Didn’t want to confess I’m thinking of buying a Breakout. Slowly getting pulled to the dark side. Do corners really matter :)
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    6 years ago

    110 Pro upgrade kit usually has 259e cams ? I thought the 266 were the 120R cams ?

    Any I have worked on that is the case at least have had 259e's

    And cornering ? My recently sold CVO Breakout had the "110 pro upgrade kit' and slow speed corners were terrible ( roundabouts etc etc )

    Higher speed fast sweepers on open roads not so much trouble but you cpuld still "feel" that 240 rear. ( Stock Harley Dunlops !)

  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Hi HH, What the smeg are softball standard foot pegs ?
  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    Yeah i have em in my 120, was a pig before it went to Lushy, upped comp and tuned and you could take ya grandmother to church on it now.
    As Hilly said, tune is big factor
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    No worries HH, I was wondering why MrGoogle didn’t show anything.
    Thanks Chriso, apart from a test ride I clearly need a list of the engine components. I’m told it has high comp pistons but not which. Was gonna test today but it’s 9 degrees and damp at the moment.
    Good to know if done properly the 266’s are liveable. Cheers

  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Chriso what compression ratio was yours before the heads were shaved and what did your compression ratio end at?
  • Iron
    Iron
    6 years ago
    Quoting Retroman on 17 Jun 2018 03:51 AM

    110 Pro upgrade kit usually has 259e cams ? I thought the 266 were the 120R cams ?

    Any I have worked on that is the case at least have had 259e's

    And cornering ? My recently sold CVO Breakout had the "110 pro upgrade kit' and slow speed corners were terrible ( roundabouts etc etc )

    Higher speed fast sweepers on open roads not so much trouble but you cpuld still "feel" that 240 rear. ( Stock Harley Dunlops !)

    That's the kit mine has in it Retroman, 259 cams 10:5:1 piston kit, pushrods etc,etc. Torque is all mid range which is great but as you said slow cornering etc does feel different 
  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 19 Jun 2018 07:00 AM

    Chriso what compression ratio was yours before the heads were shaved and what did your compression ratio end at?

    10.5 up to about 10.7
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Test rode today from Adelaide Bike Works, 2014 Breakout, nicely tweeked, great paint etc

    Gotta say on balance I was disappointed. Clearly the SE266 cams are not my style, mind you I’ve never been happy on a Softail, think it’s the balanced engine but was hoping this souped up 110 would liven the ride, it does a bit but you gotta wind it way past speeding ticket to have some fun.
    Thanks for the feedback guys, everything you said rang true. 
    Gonna stick with my 110 Dyna.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Yeah Hilly, nice looking but hard to live with, hm, think I’ve experienced that elsewhere :). 
    10.5 pistons fitted, think that’s all you can get for a 110. Cheers
  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    Just another fucking breakout, is there anyone that doesn't have one of these?
  • B0GN
    B0GN
    6 years ago
    Quoting chriso on 21 Jun 2018 07:02 PM

    Just another fucking breakout, is there anyone that doesn't have one of these?

    Things get popular for a bloody good reason, Chriso ;-)
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Quoting chriso on 21 Jun 2018 07:02 PM

    Just another fucking breakout, is there anyone that doesn't have one of these?

    Quoting B0GN on 21 Jun 2018 10:17 PM

    Things get popular for a bloody good reason, Chriso ;-)

    Settle lads :) but bear with me..
    They have got popular for a good reason, but what is it ?
    Of the 30 or so Harley riders I run with, mostly mates from the 70’s, not one has a Breakout. One guy got a 2013 when released and sold it soon after because of its poor handling (no he didn’t test ride before buying, duh)
    While I admit I nearly got lured to the dark side, the Breakout seems to be an exercise in pure form over function. Killer looks but limited riding pleasure brought by the bikes  limited ability that at my age 64, I couldn’t live with. I want an easy ride or put another way, want it to respond and quickly, especially in the hills.
    However, back in the 70’s most of those same guys, including me, sort out form over function. 4 inch overs on Honda 4s, lowering bikes by replacing shocks with short lengths of steel, squeezing in fatter rear tyres, etc etc, all for looks.
    The Breakout gives you all that “off the shelf” so I get why they’re popular and understand why those wanting a better ride don’t like em.
    But hey, let’s face it, if we all focussed on function, Harley wouldn’t be in business. 


  • B0GN
    B0GN
    6 years ago
    Hehehe, I totally get where you’re coming from. And hey, I have sweet FA knowledge about what makes for a good bike, so I don’t mean to be debating function ;-) For me, I’ve always loved the mystique of a HD. The outlaw look and rep, the fact that they’re more a cruiser than a racer and the thump of that V-twin :-) But until just now, I’d never acted on the urge to own one. I’ve also always liked the look of a Softail and when I first saw a Breakout I knew that it was exactly the bike I wanted to own. Again, as I total newbie, every ride is an adventure and I’m on the thing every chance I get. I do t mind that it’s much more form than it is function. And I get that more seasoned riders would will probably gravitate the other way. 
    Cheers B ;-)
  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    Yep, only good for the looks, that’s why every young wannabe  has one .... cept for H&H of course.
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    6 years ago
    Well guys, raise a pint or two to the young wannabes, long term motorcycling’s fucked without em.  
    End of story.
  • killerchef
    killerchef
    6 years ago
    Quoting chriso on 22 Jun 2018 11:39 AM

    Yep, only good for the looks, that’s why every young wannabe  has one .... cept for H&H of course.

    im with you chriso.  i rather ride with someone on a postie bike that throws his leg over for the actually ride, rather than what he looks like. 
    edit:  im pretty sure funny diesel story i heard involved a breakout.  lol.  
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